Dolphin 5 Beta 2

Folks,

We've just dropped a beta 2 onto the website. You can download it (with the
same username/password as before) from:

http://www.object-arts.com/Beta5/DPro5Beta2.msi

For details about fixes, outstanding bugs etc., see Blair's recent posts
entitled:

Dolphin 5 Release Notes
Dolphin 5 Defects Outstanding List [HTML]
Current list of bugs reported in Dolphin 5 beta 1 with status [HTML]

Apart from general bug fixes your may like to know that we've removed the
dependency of the VM (and any therefore any deployed applications on
MSVCIRT.DLL).

You should also notice that the system folder now includes an icon for the
Flipper Inspector. This is because Flipper can now operate as a standalone
tool. Try opening it from the icon and choose the tab marked "Visual Object
Finder". With some other Dolphin windows open, use the finder to locate
different objects within them and load them into the inspector.

Another "neato" feature is the ability to drag object references from the
lefthand pane of the inspectors and drop them into a workspace as workspace
variables.

I'm off for a week's skiing now so I hope you have as much fun playing with
the new version as I'm (hopefully) having in the snow. Keep those bug
reports coming through.

Best Regards,

Andy Bower
Dolphin Support
http://www.object-arts.com
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Oh, and BTW, before the complaints start rolling in, I doubt that the new
System Folder colour will be the final one. I just felt like a change.

Best Regards,

Andy Bower
Dolphin Support
http://www.object-arts.com
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"Andy Bower" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
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> Oh, and BTW, before the complaints start rolling in, I doubt that the new
> System Folder colour will be the final one. I just felt like a change.

Windows 2000, more or less vanila (only Dolphin Beta1)

Hi I have tried to install the new beta. MSI first gave me an option to
repare Beta1 or to remove Beta 1. First I have tried reparing, and the I
have let MSI remove the beta 1.

After that I have tried to start the mis again , and this time it started
installing Beta 2, but I got the following error:

Error 1904 Module C:\Program Files\Common Files\Object Arts\Dolphin
Smalltalk 5.0\DolphinVM005.dll failed to register. HRESULT -2147024770. ....

When starting Dolphin Beta 2 it complains that it can not find the
MSVCP60.dll.

Then I have started the MSI again, and let it to try to repare the Beta 2
but it did not help (again it was not able to register)

Davorin Rusevljan

> You should also notice that the system folder now includes an icon for the
> Flipper Inspector. This is because Flipper can now operate as a standalone
> tool. Try opening it from the icon and choose the tab marked "Visual
Object
> Finder". With some other Dolphin windows open, use the finder to locate
> different objects within them and load them into the inspector.

That is slick.  It looks like Chris Demers' ViewFinder, integrated into
Flipper.  Unfortunately, it appears that this has a limitation that Chris'
thingie also has, i.e., it doesn't seem to recognize AXControlSites (which
*are* views).

> Another "neato" feature is the ability to drag object references from the
> lefthand pane of the inspectors and drop them into a workspace as
workspace
> variables.

This too is slick, something I've wanted for awhile.  Thank you, OA, for
making the environment even more of a living thing.

"Louis Sumberg" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
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> > You should also notice that the system folder now includes an icon for
the
> > Flipper Inspector. This is because Flipper can now operate as a
standalone
> > tool. Try opening it from the icon and choose the tab marked "Visual
> Object
> > Finder". With some other Dolphin windows open, use the finder to locate
> > different objects within them and load them into the inspector.
>
> That is slick.  It looks like Chris Demers' ViewFinder, integrated into
> Flipper.  Unfortunately, it appears that this has a limitation that Chris'
> thingie also has, i.e., it doesn't seem to recognize AXControlSites (which
> *are* views).

That is because Andy deliberately turned off the feature where it would pick
up foreign views. I tried to persuade him otherwise, but he thought it would
just elicit complaints if people opened an inspector on their Outlook
Express window, turned off its border, and found all their messages
disappearing when it got recreated :-).

Regards

Blair

Davorin

You wrote in message news:[hidden email]...
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> "Andy Bower" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
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> > Oh, and BTW, before the complaints start rolling in, I doubt that the
new ....
>
> When starting Dolphin Beta 2 it complains that it can not find the
> MSVCP60.dll.
>
> Then I have started the MSI again, and let it to try to repare the Beta 2
> but it did not help (again it was not able to register)

We've removed the dependency on the old "classic IOStreams" C runtime
library, MSVCIRT.DLL, but acquired a dependency on MSVCP60.DLL, which
contains parts of the implementation of the C++ standard template library.
This probably isn't included in the MSI (which has not been substantially
altered from D4 yet), because it didn't used to be a prereq for D4.

That being said, I am surprised you are having a problem with this, since
accordings to Microsoft support's "DLL Help Database" that DLL should be
distributed with Win2k Pro and Server (as well as Windows ME and XP). If
you'd installed MS Office you'd have it as well.

I intend to try and remove this dependency too, but it is tricky since it
means either rewriting the crash dump and VM tracing facilities to not use
C++ streams, or attempting to link the necessary stuff in statically when
the rest of the C runtime library is dynamically linked.

Regards

Blair

"Blair McGlashan" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
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> Davorin
> That being said, I am surprised you are having a problem with this, since
> accordings to Microsoft support's "DLL Help Database" that DLL should be
> distributed with Win2k Pro and Server (as well as Windows ME and XP). If
> you'd installed MS Office you'd have it as well.

Blair,

thanks, and I can not say how much would I regard removing any potential
obstacles and dependencies in installing Dolphin and/or generated programs.
I understand there is allways conflict of interest between removing
dependencies and functionality, but still from time to time I feel the need
to voice the side of the fence I am :)

I am doing all my Dolphin Beta in clean install Win2k created just for
dolphin beta testing on vmware virtual machine, so I would say this is as
clean machine as one can get. Btw. I can highly recomend you vmware
workstation for such testings, if you are not allready using it. It can give
you machine farm with different versions of OS'es, and best of all, if you
change some of them, you can easily backtrack them into previous state to
run tests again, until the problem is solved. It is very valuable tool.

Davorin Rusevljan