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Hello all,
I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? Bill _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello all, > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? > I had the truetype fonts disappear but doing FreeTypeFontProvider current updateFromSystem. fixed it. I don't know if that's the correct way to do it though _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Em 31/08/2009 15:42, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]> escreveu:
> Hello all, > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have > no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to > startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It > seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent > occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in > browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name > was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still > looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown > happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to > save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image > fixes is. Any ideas? > I noticed that in the #10419 episode. HTH _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Bill,
I can reproduce this by repeatedly saving without quitting (on windows vista). I suspect that some face handles are no being closed properly at shutdown. When a face handle is open, then the FreeType library also has the associated file open. But there is a limit to the number of open file handles - see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1061 for more info on this. When I have figured out what is going wrong in the shutdown, I'll post a fix. Is there a bug issue number for this problem? If not, I'll create one. Cheers, Andy . > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:42:13 -0400 > Subject: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > Hello all, > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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The bug report, and a fix, are here - http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1135
Cheers, Andy . From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:16:27 +0100 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) Hi Bill, I can reproduce this by repeatedly saving without quitting (on windows vista). I suspect that some face handles are no being closed properly at shutdown. When a face handle is open, then the FreeType library also has the associated file open. But there is a limit to the number of open file handles - see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1061 for more info on this. When I have figured out what is going wrong in the shutdown, I'll post a fix. Is there a bug issue number for this problem? If not, I'll create one. Cheers, Andy . > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:42:13 -0400 > Subject: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > Hello all, > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Andy,
It is not a big problem. When it happens, I
simply close the image and re-open it. Clearly any memory leaks should be
fixed, but I might be able to help a little; I appear to have something that can
tell when an image opens and when it closes, and that is an important part of
Dolphin's standard approach to external resources. Perhaps it is just my
Dolphin bias showing, but it strikes me as something that needs to be fixed, and
I would like to have others test it to look for problems. I will try to
follow this with a separate message that will make the code easier to
load.
Bill
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andrew Tween Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:16 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) I can reproduce this by repeatedly saving without quitting (on windows vista). I suspect that some face handles are no being closed properly at shutdown. When a face handle is open, then the FreeType library also has the associated file open. But there is a limit to the number of open file handles - see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1061 for more info on this. When I have figured out what is going wrong in the shutdown, I'll post a fix. Is there a bug issue number for this problem? If not, I'll create one. Cheers, Andy . > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:42:13 -0400 > Subject: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > Hello all, > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Andy,
So much
for your needing my help :) I'll still post the session
manager. Thanks!
Bill
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andrew Tween Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:51 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) Cheers, Andy . From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:16:27 +0100 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) Hi Bill, I can reproduce this by repeatedly saving without quitting (on windows vista). I suspect that some face handles are no being closed properly at shutdown. When a face handle is open, then the FreeType library also has the associated file open. But there is a limit to the number of open file handles - see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1061 for more info on this. When I have figured out what is going wrong in the shutdown, I'll post a fix. Is there a bug issue number for this problem? If not, I'll create one. Cheers, Andy . > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:42:13 -0400 > Subject: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > Hello all, > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Thanks a **lot** andy
We will integrate that in the next phase Stef On Aug 31, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Andrew Tween wrote: > The bug report, and a fix, are here - http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1135 > > Cheers, > Andy > > . > > > > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:16:27 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > Hi Bill, > I can reproduce this by repeatedly saving without quitting (on > windows vista). > I suspect that some face handles are no being closed properly at > shutdown. > > When a face handle is open, then the FreeType library also has the > associated file open. > But there is a limit to the number of open file handles - see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1061 > for more info on this. > > When I have figured out what is going wrong in the shutdown, I'll > post a fix. > Is there a bug issue number for this problem? If not, I'll create one. > > Cheers, > Andy > > > > . > > > > > From: [hidden email] > > To: [hidden email] > > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:42:13 -0400 > > Subject: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > > > Hello all, > > > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have > no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/ > shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to > be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance > was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers > looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not > bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to > be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened > with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the > image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. > Any ideas? > > > > Bill > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. > View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them > now._______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K<[hidden email]> wrote:
> I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? Bill, can you please tell us if Andy's fix fixes your problem? Write that on the tracker. Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Damien, Andy, That's a fair question. Do we have any idea how many saves should be required to cause the failure? Bill -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:43 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K<[hidden email]> wrote: > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? Bill, can you please tell us if Andy's fix fixes your problem? Write that on the tracker. Thank you -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Bill,
Using a freshly downloaded pharo1.0-10418-BETAdev09.08.3.image , under Windows Vista, it fails after the 19th save. (which seems to makes sense, since there are two font faces being displayed, and I know that the max number of open file handles before failure is 37. 19 x 2 = 38, which is > 37) Cheers, Andy . > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:01:53 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > > Damien, Andy, > > That's a fair question. Do we have any idea how many saves should be required to cause the failure? > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:43 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Don't ask me how to reproduce this one :) > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K<[hidden email]> wrote: > > I periodically see a degradation of anti-aliased fonts, and have no idea what causes it. Given my recent adventures in to startup/shutdown, I suppose it could be due to a problem there?? It seems to be triggered by saving the image w/o quitting. This recent occurance was different in that I started noting that the text in browsers looked different to me, perhaps just that the method name was not bold?? Something was not quite right, but the text still looked to be rendered well. Shortly thereafter, the full breakdown happened with everything rendered in an ugly font. It seems safe to save the image in this state, and exiting and re-loading the image fixes is. Any ideas? > > Bill, can you please tell us if Andy's fix fixes your problem? Write that on the tracker. > > Thank you > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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