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ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

Noury Bouraqadi-2
Dear Smalltalkers,

The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to go).
So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
http://registration.esug.org/
This server comes with new features.
You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors).

The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising as was for the previous editions of the conference.
Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010

See you in Barcelona,
Noury
ESUG treasurer


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Re: ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

travis griggs-5
can you please remove this e-mail from your list.  This is not the Travis Griggs that wrote a book on small talk.  Thanks

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Smalltalkers,

The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to go).
So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
http://registration.esug.org/
This server comes with new features.
You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors).

The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising as was for the previous editions of the conference.
Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010

See you in Barcelona,
Noury
ESUG treasurer


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Re: ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

Marcus Denker-4

On Jul 2, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:

>
> On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:14 AM, travis griggs wrote:
>
>> can you please remove this e-mail from your list.  This is not the Travis Griggs that wrote a book on small talk.  Thanks
>>
>
> I have removed the adress ....@gmail.com from the esug mailinglist. Strange.
>
> Marcus
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bank transfer

Stephan Eggermont-3
Hi all,

I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the  
bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.

For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost  
(SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all.  
When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will  
charge you.

Grtz. Diego


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Re: bank transfer

jtuchel
Stephan,
 
are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or international
(SWIFT) payments?
Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any more than
for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question about
sharing costs at all...
 
Joachim

Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 geschrieben:

> Hi all,
>
> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the 
> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
>
> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost 
> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all. 
> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will 
> charge you.
>
> Grtz. Diego
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

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Re: bank transfer

Stephan Eggermont-3
Joachim,

I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for  
international payments a choice between:
- all costs are for the initiator (DOM)
- we share the cost (SHA)
- all costs are for benificiary (BEN)

Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within  
the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you.

grtz. Stephan and Diego


On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, [hidden email] wrote:

> Stephan,
>
> are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or  
> international
> (SWIFT) payments?
> Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any  
> more than
> for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question  
> about
> sharing costs at all...
>
> Joachim
>
> Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30  
> geschrieben:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the
>> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
>>
>> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared  
>> cost
>> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all.
>> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will
>> charge you.
>>
>> Grtz. Diego
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Esug-list mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
>
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> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
>
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Re: bank transfer

Noury Bouraqadi-2
Hi Stephan,

You're right. This statement is valid only for transfers from outside the European Union.
We'll fix it.

Best,
Noury
On 2 juil. 2010, at 11:30, Stephan Eggermont wrote:

> Joachim,
>
> I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for international payments a choice between:
> - all costs are for the initiator (DOM)
> - we share the cost (SHA)
> - all costs are for benificiary (BEN)
>
> Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you.
>
> grtz. Stephan and Diego
>
>
> On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> Stephan,
>>
>> are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or international
>> (SWIFT) payments?
>> Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any more than
>> for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question about
>> sharing costs at all...
>>
>> Joachim
>>
>> Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 geschrieben:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the
>>> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
>>>
>>> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost
>>> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all.
>>> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will
>>> charge you.
>>>
>>> Grtz. Diego
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Esug-list mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel          mailto:[hidden email]
>> Fliederweg 1                         http://www.objektfabrik.de
>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg
>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Esug-list mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
>
>
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Re: bank transfer

jtuchel
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Stephan,
 
so mabe I am talking about a German specialty. All our banks give me a selection
between SEPA payments within the EU and international payments for the rest of
the world. If I select a SEPA payment, they never ask about sharing costs,
because that is defined. SEPA payments have the same cost (if any) like domestic
payments.
 
Joachim
 
 
Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 11:30 geschrieben:

> Joachim,
>
> I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for 
> international payments a choice between:
> - all costs are for the initiator (DOM)
> - we share the cost (SHA)
> - all costs are for benificiary (BEN)
>
> Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within 
> the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you.
>
> grtz. Stephan and Diego
>
>
> On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> > Stephan,
> >
> > are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or 
> > international
> > (SWIFT) payments?
> > Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any 
> > more than
> > for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question 
> > about
> > sharing costs at all...
> >
> > Joachim
> >
> > Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 
> > geschrieben:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the
> >> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
> >>
> >> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared 
> >> cost
> >> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all.
> >> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will
> >> charge you.
> >>
> >> Grtz. Diego
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Esug-list mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel          mailto:[hidden email]
> > Fliederweg 1                         http://www.objektfabrik.de
> > D-71640 Ludwigsburg
> > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Esug-list mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
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>
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Re: [vwnc] ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

jtuchel
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Just a side note:
 
> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
 
If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on Facebook
This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.
 
Joachim
 
 

Noury Bouraqadi <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 00:32 geschrieben:

> Dear Smalltalkers,
>
> The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to
> go).
> So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
> http://registration.esug.org/
> This server comes with new features.
> You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
> Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors).
>
> The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising
> as was for the previous editions of the conference.
> Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
>
> See you in Barcelona,
> Noury
> ESUG treasurer
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [vwnc] ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

jdelgado
Hi

> Just a side note:
>  
> > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
>  
> If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on Facebook
> This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
> I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.

Please, correct me if I am wrong, but I guess all events on facebook can only be seen by facebook users.
Anyway, this event may be seen by any facebook user.

On the other hand, do not worry. There is nothing there that is not in ESUG web
site. No closed circles here.

Bests,

Jordi

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Re: [vwnc] ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

jtuchel
Jordi,
 
I think ESUG shouldn't look like a closed circle, and there may still be some
people around who neither have nor want a facebook account. For these people it
doesn't even matter if there is any info on that site at all: they will never
find out and may feel locked out.

Joachim
Jordi Delgado <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 14:43 geschrieben:

> Hi
>
> > Just a side note:
> >  
> > > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
> >  
> > If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on
> > Facebook
> > This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
> > I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.
>
> Please, correct me if I am wrong, but I guess all events on facebook can only
> be seen by facebook users.
> Anyway, this event may be seen by any facebook user.
>
> On the other hand, do not worry. There is nothing there that is not in ESUG
> web
> site. No closed circles here.
>
> Bests,
>
> Jordi
>
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Re: [vwnc] ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

SergeStinckwich
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Hi Joaquim,
There is no information on the FB event that is not on the ESUG website.
This is just a convenient way to do some some buzz.
Thank you.

Le 2 juil. 2010 à 17:49, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> a écrit :

> Just a side note:
>  
>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
>  
> If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on Facebook
> This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
> I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.
>  
> Joachim
>  
>  
>
> Noury Bouraqadi <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 00:32 geschrieben
>
>> Dear Smalltalkers,
>>
>> The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to
>> go).
>> So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
>> http://registration.esug.org/
>> This server comes with new features.
>> You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
>> Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors).
>>
>> The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising
>> as was for the previous editions of the conference.
>> Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
>>
>> See you in Barcelona,
>> Noury
>> ESUG treasurer
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> vwnc mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc
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jtuchel
Serge,
 
I am not complaining that *I* cannot read it.
I just want to say I would prefer to not tease people onto a news page that is
not accessible to everybody. This may give a false impression on how welcome
non-insiders are to the conference.

Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 15:30
geschrieben:

>
> Hi Joaquim,
> There is no information on the FB event that is not on the ESUG website.
> This is just a convenient way to do some some buzz.
> Thank you.
>
> Le 2 juil. 2010 à 17:49, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> a
> écrit :
>
> > Just a side note:
> > 
> >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
> > 
> > If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on
> > Facebook
> > This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
> > I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.
> > 
> > Joachim
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Noury Bouraqadi <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 00:32
> > geschrieben
> >
> >> Dear Smalltalkers,
> >>
> >> The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month
> >> to
> >> go).
> >> So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
> >> http://registration.esug.org/
> >> This server comes with new features.
> >> You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
> >> Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum
> >> sponsors).
> >>
> >> The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as
> >> promising
> >> as was for the previous editions of the conference.
> >> Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
> >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
> >>
> >> See you in Barcelona,
> >> Noury
> >> ESUG treasurer
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> vwnc mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc
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> >
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