ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

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> On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:14 AM, travis griggs wrote:
>
>> can you please remove this e-mail from your list.  This is not the Travis Griggs that wrote a book on small talk.  Thanks
>>
>
> I have removed the adress ....@gmail.com from the esug mailinglist. Strange.
>
> Marcus
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>

> Hi all,
>
> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the 
> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
>
> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost 
> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all. 
> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will 
> charge you.
>
> Grtz. Diego
>
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> Stephan,
>
> are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or  
> international
> (SWIFT) payments?
> Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any  
> more than
> for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question  
> about
> sharing costs at all...
>
> Joachim
>
> Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30  
> geschrieben:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the
>> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
>>
>> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared  
>> cost
>> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all.
>> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will
>> charge you.
>>
>> Grtz. Diego
>>
>>
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
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> Joachim,
>
> I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for international payments a choice between:
> - all costs are for the initiator (DOM)
> - we share the cost (SHA)
> - all costs are for benificiary (BEN)
>
> Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you.
>
> grtz. Stephan and Diego
>
>
> On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> Stephan,
>>
>> are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or international
>> (SWIFT) payments?
>> Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any more than
>> for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question about
>> sharing costs at all...
>>
>> Joachim
>>
>> Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 geschrieben:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the
>>> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
>>>
>>> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost
>>> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all.
>>> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will
>>> charge you.
>>>
>>> Grtz. Diego
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Esug-list mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
>>
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>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel          mailto:[hidden email]
>> Fliederweg 1                         http://www.objektfabrik.de
>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg
>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
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> Joachim,
>
> I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for 
> international payments a choice between:
> - all costs are for the initiator (DOM)
> - we share the cost (SHA)
> - all costs are for benificiary (BEN)
>
> Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within 
> the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you.
>
> grtz. Stephan and Diego
>
>
> On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> > Stephan,
> >
> > are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or 
> > international
> > (SWIFT) payments?
> > Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any 
> > more than
> > for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question 
> > about
> > sharing costs at all...
> >
> > Joachim
> >
> > Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 
> > geschrieben:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the
> >> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!.
> >>
> >> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared 
> >> cost
> >> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all.
> >> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will
> >> charge you.
> >>
> >> Grtz. Diego
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Esug-list mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
> >
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> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel          mailto:[hidden email]
> > Fliederweg 1                         http://www.objektfabrik.de
> > D-71640 Ludwigsburg
> > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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> Dear Smalltalkers,
>
> The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to
> go).
> So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
> http://registration.esug.org/
> This server comes with new features.
> You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
> Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors).
>
> The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising
> as was for the previous editions of the conference.
> Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
>
> See you in Barcelona,
> Noury
> ESUG treasurer
>
>
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> Hi
>
> > Just a side note:
> >  
> > > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
> >  
> > If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on
> > Facebook
> > This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
> > I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.
>
> Please, correct me if I am wrong, but I guess all events on facebook can only
> be seen by facebook users.
> Anyway, this event may be seen by any facebook user.
>
> On the other hand, do not worry. There is nothing there that is not in ESUG
> web
> site. No closed circles here.
>
> Bests,
>
> Jordi
>
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> Just a side note:
>  
>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
>  
> If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on Facebook
> This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
> I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.
>  
> Joachim
>  
>  
>
> Noury Bouraqadi <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 00:32 geschrieben
>
>> Dear Smalltalkers,
>>
>> The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to
>> go).
>> So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
>> http://registration.esug.org/
>> This server comes with new features.
>> You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
>> Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors).
>>
>> The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising
>> as was for the previous editions of the conference.
>> Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
>>
>> See you in Barcelona,
>> Noury
>> ESUG treasurer
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> vwnc mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc
>
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> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel          mailto:[hidden email]
> Fliederweg 1                         http://www.objektfabrik.de
> D-71640 Ludwigsburg
> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
>
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>
> Hi Joaquim,
> There is no information on the FB event that is not on the ESUG website.
> This is just a convenient way to do some some buzz.
> Thank you.
>
> Le 2 juil. 2010 à 17:49, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> a
> écrit :
>
> > Just a side note:
> > 
> >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
> > 
> > If I visit the conference page, there is a link to Conference news on
> > Facebook
> > This is only accessible for registered Facebook users.
> > I think it's not a good idea to be a closed circle.
> > 
> > Joachim
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Noury Bouraqadi <[hidden email]> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 00:32
> > geschrieben
> >
> >> Dear Smalltalkers,
> >>
> >> The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month
> >> to
> >> go).
> >> So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server.
> >> http://registration.esug.org/
> >> This server comes with new features.
> >> You can now do a group registration and make a single payment.
> >> Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum
> >> sponsors).
> >>
> >> The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as
> >> promising
> >> as was for the previous editions of the conference.
> >> Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web,
> >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
> >>
> >> See you in Barcelona,
> >> Noury
> >> ESUG treasurer
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> vwnc mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc
> >
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> > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel          mailto:[hidden email]
> > Fliederweg 1                         http://www.objektfabrik.de
> > D-71640 Ludwigsburg
> > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
> >
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