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ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

tallman@inbox.ru
As announced on http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!

By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those "slots" (how many project we can start)?
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Re: ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

Stéphane Ducasse
Excellent!
Then may be this is time to remove the  Javascript IDE project since it has nothing to do with Smalltalk.
Or we should also add
        writing a IDE in PHP, Python, lua, ruby,  and objective-C

Stef


On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote:

> As announced on http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!
>
> By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those "slots" (how many project we can start)?
> _______________________________________________
> Esug-list mailing list
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> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list

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RE: ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

frank.lesser

Hi Stephane,
I recently noticed that there is no Smalltalk implementation of Kara.
Kara is used in education and the side effect is that starters learn the
syntax of its implementation language by writing code-snippets to move the bug in the Kara-world.

http://www.swisseduc.ch/informatik/karatojava/index.html

It is used here in Germany to teach informatics.

Would be nice to have a Smalltalk implementation,

With best regards, Frank Lesser, www.dng.st


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:33 PM
To: Юрий Мироненко; ESUG Mailing list
Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

Excellent!
Then may be this is time to remove the  Javascript IDE project since it has nothing to do with Smalltalk.
Or we should also add
        writing a IDE in PHP, Python, lua, ruby,  and objective-C

Stef


On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote:

> As announced on http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!
>
> By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those "slots" (how many project we can start)?
> _______________________________________________
> Esug-list mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list

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Re: ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

Rita Freudenberg

Am 18.03.2010 um 21:48 schrieb Frank Lesser:

>
> Hi Stephane,
> I recently noticed that there is no Smalltalk implementation of Kara.
> Kara is used in education and the side effect is that starters learn  
> the
> syntax of its implementation language by writing code-snippets to  
> move the bug in the Kara-world.
>
> http://www.swisseduc.ch/informatik/karatojava/index.html
>
> It is used here in Germany to teach informatics.

Frank, do you know BotsInc?
http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/botsinc

Greetings,
Rita

>
> Would be nice to have a Smalltalk implementation,
>
> With best regards, Frank Lesser, www.dng.st
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]
> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:33 PM
> To: Юрий Мироненко; ESUG Mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
>
> Excellent!
> Then may be this is time to remove the  Javascript IDE project since  
> it has nothing to do with Smalltalk.
> Or we should also add
> writing a IDE in PHP, Python, lua, ruby,  and objective-C
>
> Stef
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote:
>
>> As announced on http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 
>>  , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!
>>
>> By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those  
>> "slots" (how many project we can start)?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Esug-list mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Esug-list mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Esug-list mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>

Rita Freudenberg
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RE: ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

frank.lesser
Hi Rita,
Yes, it is nice for learning programming - my son used Lego & VSE-Parts (later we developed a PARTS like framework which we called Prototypes in LSWVST).
He is in the finishing the secondary school now - but the teacher has chosen Java-Kara - he knows about Squeak -and I was surprised that they have quite a lot of fun to program in this finite automata world.
Also Andy Bower from Object-Arts did an implementation for programming Lego-Robots in Dolphin.
But we need to have an implementation of Kara in Smalltalk - to offer an alternative to Java-Kara.
Without that young people would learn the humble syntax of other languages.
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rita Freudenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:17 PM
To: ESUG Mailing list
Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010


Am 18.03.2010 um 21:48 schrieb Frank Lesser:

>
> Hi Stephane,
> I recently noticed that there is no Smalltalk implementation of Kara.
> Kara is used in education and the side effect is that starters learn  
> the
> syntax of its implementation language by writing code-snippets to  
> move the bug in the Kara-world.
>
> http://www.swisseduc.ch/informatik/karatojava/index.html
>
> It is used here in Germany to teach informatics.

Frank, do you know BotsInc?
http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/botsinc

Greetings,
Rita

>
> Would be nice to have a Smalltalk implementation,
>
> With best regards, Frank Lesser, www.dng.st
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]
> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:33 PM
> To: Юрий Мироненко; ESUG Mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
>
> Excellent!
> Then may be this is time to remove the  Javascript IDE project since  
> it has nothing to do with Smalltalk.
> Or we should also add
> writing a IDE in PHP, Python, lua, ruby,  and objective-C
>
> Stef
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote:
>
>> As announced on http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 
>>  , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!
>>
>> By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those  
>> "slots" (how many project we can start)?
>> _______________________________________________
>> Esug-list mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>
> _______________________________________________
> Esug-list mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>

Rita Freudenberg
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Re: ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

Stéphane Ducasse

On Mar 18, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Frank Lesser wrote:

> Hi Rita,
> Yes, it is nice for learning programming - my son used Lego & VSE-Parts (later we developed a PARTS like framework which we called Prototypes in LSWVST).
> He is in the finishing the secondary school now - but the teacher has chosen Java-Kara - he knows about Squeak -and I was surprised that they have quite a lot of fun to program in this finite automata world.

yes but this is finite automata.

> Also Andy Bower from Object-Arts did an implementation for programming Lego-Robots in Dolphin.
> But we need to have an implementation of Kara in Smalltalk - to offer an alternative to Java-Kara.

yes somebody has to do that. I gave enough to the children. I'm done.

> Without that young people would learn the humble syntax of other languages.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rita Freudenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:17 PM
> To: ESUG Mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
>
>
> Am 18.03.2010 um 21:48 schrieb Frank Lesser:
>
>>
>> Hi Stephane,
>> I recently noticed that there is no Smalltalk implementation of Kara.
>> Kara is used in education and the side effect is that starters learn  
>> the
>> syntax of its implementation language by writing code-snippets to  
>> move the bug in the Kara-world.
>>
>> http://www.swisseduc.ch/informatik/karatojava/index.html
>>
>> It is used here in Germany to teach informatics.
>
> Frank, do you know BotsInc?
> http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/botsinc
>
> Greetings,
> Rita
>>
>> Would be nice to have a Smalltalk implementation,
>>
>> With best regards, Frank Lesser, www.dng.st
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]
>> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:33 PM
>> To: Юрий Мироненко; ESUG Mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
>>
>> Excellent!
>> Then may be this is time to remove the  Javascript IDE project since  
>> it has nothing to do with Smalltalk.
>> Or we should also add
>> writing a IDE in PHP, Python, lua, ruby,  and objective-C
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote:
>>
>>> As announced on http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 
>>> , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!
>>>
>>> By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those  
>>> "slots" (how many project we can start)?
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Esug-list mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Esug-list mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Esug-list mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>>
>
> Rita Freudenberg
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Esug-list mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
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RE: ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

jtuchel
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Rita, Frank,
 
if you haven't already, maybe you should get in touch with Matthias Ehmann at
the University of Bayreuth:
 
http://did.mat.uni-bayreuth.de/aktuelles/db/225/Algorithmen_und_Programmierung.pdf
 
hth
 
Joachim
 

Frank Lesser <[hidden email]> hat am 18. März 2010 um 22:31
geschrieben:

> Hi Rita,
> Yes, it is nice for learning programming - my son used Lego & VSE-Parts (later
> we developed a PARTS like framework which we called Prototypes in LSWVST).
> He is in the finishing the secondary school now - but the teacher has chosen
> Java-Kara - he knows about Squeak -and I was surprised that they have quite a
> lot of fun to program in this finite automata world.
> Also Andy Bower from Object-Arts did an implementation for programming
> Lego-Robots in Dolphin.
> But we need to have an implementation of Kara in Smalltalk - to offer an
> alternative to Java-Kara.
> Without that young people would learn the humble syntax of other languages.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rita Freudenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:17 PM
> To: ESUG Mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
>
>
> Am 18.03.2010 um 21:48 schrieb Frank Lesser:
>
> >
> > Hi Stephane,
> > I recently noticed that there is no Smalltalk implementation of Kara.
> > Kara is used in education and the side effect is that starters learn 
> > the
> > syntax of its implementation language by writing code-snippets to 
> > move the bug in the Kara-world.
> >
> > http://www.swisseduc.ch/informatik/karatojava/index.html
> >
> > It is used here in Germany to teach informatics.
>
> Frank, do you know BotsInc?
> http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/botsinc
>
> Greetings,
> Rita
> >
> > Would be nice to have a Smalltalk implementation,
> >
> > With best regards, Frank Lesser, www.dng.st
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]
> > ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:33 PM
> > To: Юрий Мироненко; ESUG Mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
> >
> > Excellent!
> > Then may be this is time to remove the  Javascript IDE project since 
> > it has nothing to do with Smalltalk.
> > Or we should also add
> >         writing a IDE in PHP, Python, lua, ruby,  and objective-C
> >
> > Stef
> >
> >
> > On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote:
> >
> >> As announced on
> >> http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010
> >>  , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!
> >>
> >> By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those 
> >> "slots" (how many project we can start)?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Esug-list mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Esug-list mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Esug-list mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
> >
>
> Rita Freudenberg
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Esug-list mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list

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RE: ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010

frank.lesser
Hi Joachim,

thanks for the link

Frank

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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 8:51 AM
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Rita, Frank,
 
if you haven't already, maybe you should get in touch with Matthias Ehmann at
the University of Bayreuth:
 
http://did.mat.uni-bayreuth.de/aktuelles/db/225/Algorithmen_und_Programmierung.pdf
 
hth
 
Joachim
 

Frank Lesser <[hidden email]> hat am 18. März 2010 um 22:31
geschrieben:

> Hi Rita,
> Yes, it is nice for learning programming - my son used Lego & VSE-Parts (later
> we developed a PARTS like framework which we called Prototypes in LSWVST).
> He is in the finishing the secondary school now - but the teacher has chosen
> Java-Kara - he knows about Squeak -and I was surprised that they have quite a
> lot of fun to program in this finite automata world.
> Also Andy Bower from Object-Arts did an implementation for programming
> Lego-Robots in Dolphin.
> But we need to have an implementation of Kara in Smalltalk - to offer an
> alternative to Java-Kara.
> Without that young people would learn the humble syntax of other languages.
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rita Freudenberg
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:17 PM
> To: ESUG Mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
>
>
> Am 18.03.2010 um 21:48 schrieb Frank Lesser:
>
> >
> > Hi Stephane,
> > I recently noticed that there is no Smalltalk implementation of Kara.
> > Kara is used in education and the side effect is that starters learn
> > the
> > syntax of its implementation language by writing code-snippets to
> > move the bug in the Kara-world.
> >
> > http://www.swisseduc.ch/informatik/karatojava/index.html
> >
> > It is used here in Germany to teach informatics.
>
> Frank, do you know BotsInc?
> http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/botsinc
>
> Greetings,
> Rita
> >
> > Would be nice to have a Smalltalk implementation,
> >
> > With best regards, Frank Lesser, www.dng.st
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]
> > ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:33 PM
> > To: Юрий Мироненко; ESUG Mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG was accepted to GSoC 2010
> >
> > Excellent!
> > Then may be this is time to remove the  Javascript IDE project since
> > it has nothing to do with Smalltalk.
> > Or we should also add
> >         writing a IDE in PHP, Python, lua, ruby,  and objective-C
> >
> > Stef
> >
> >
> > On Mar 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote:
> >
> >> As announced on
> >> http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010
> >>  , ESUG was accepted for GSoC 2010! My congratulations!
> >>
> >> By the way, where/when it possible to see the number of those
> >> "slots" (how many project we can start)?
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Esug-list mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Esug-list mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Esug-list mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list
> >
>
> Rita Freudenberg
> [hidden email]
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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