ESUG will sponsor the XMLRPC project!
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Hi Folks,
I'm very happy of announce that ESUG will be sponsoring my work to develop a XMLRPC client interface, as I comment on my blog: http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2010/06/esug-will-sponsor-xmlrpc-project.html. I want to thank publicly to Stéphane Ducasse, Alain Plantec, Nuory Bouraqadi and ESUG, as they are sponsoring this initiative under the "support your project" program, described in http://www.esug.org/Promotion/Project . Thanks you very much ESUG. Any comment or suggestion to this project is more than welcomed. Cheers. -- ================================================= Germán S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com ================================================= _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Cool :)
Stef On Jun 26, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Germán Arduino wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm very happy of announce that ESUG will be sponsoring my work to > develop a XMLRPC client interface, as I comment on my blog: > http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2010/06/esug-will-sponsor-xmlrpc-project.html. > > I want to thank publicly to Stéphane Ducasse, Alain Plantec, Nuory > Bouraqadi and ESUG, as they are sponsoring this initiative under the > "support your project" program, described in > http://www.esug.org/Promotion/Project . Thanks you very much ESUG. > > Any comment or suggestion to this project is more than welcomed. > > Cheers. > > -- > ================================================= > Germán S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [squeak-dev] ESUG will sponsor the XMLRPC project!
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On 6/26/10 10:27 AM, Germán Arduino wrote:
> Hi Folks, > > I'm very happy of announce that ESUG will be sponsoring my work to > develop a XMLRPC client interface, as I comment on my blog: > http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2010/06/esug-will-sponsor-xmlrpc-project.html. > > I want to thank publicly to Stéphane Ducasse, Alain Plantec, Nuory > Bouraqadi and ESUG, as they are sponsoring this initiative under the > "support your project" program, described in > http://www.esug.org/Promotion/Project . Thanks you very much ESUG. > > Any comment or suggestion to this project is more than welcomed. > > Cheers. > > support is very minimal, at best, in squeak. Lawson _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Yes, you are right.
2010/6/26 Lawson English <[hidden email]>: > On 6/26/10 10:27 AM, Germán Arduino wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'm very happy of announce that ESUG will be sponsoring my work to >> develop a XMLRPC client interface, as I comment on my blog: >> >> http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2010/06/esug-will-sponsor-xmlrpc-project.html. >> >> I want to thank publicly to Stéphane Ducasse, Alain Plantec, Nuory >> Bouraqadi and ESUG, as they are sponsoring this initiative under the >> "support your project" program, described in >> http://www.esug.org/Promotion/Project . Thanks you very much ESUG. >> >> Any comment or suggestion to this project is more than welcomed. >> >> Cheers. >> >> > > https support is important for many use-cases with xmlrpc... But https > support is very minimal, at best, in squeak. > > > Lawson > -- ================================================= Germán S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com ================================================= _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 26.06.2010 19:27, Germán Arduino wrote:
> Hi Folks, > > I'm very happy of announce that ESUG will be sponsoring my work to > develop a XMLRPC client interface, as I comment on my blog: > http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2010/06/esug-will-sponsor-xmlrpc-project.html. > > I want to thank publicly to Stéphane Ducasse, Alain Plantec, Nuory > Bouraqadi and ESUG, as they are sponsoring this initiative under the > "support your project" program, described in > http://www.esug.org/Promotion/Project . Thanks you very much ESUG. > > Any comment or suggestion to this project is more than welcomed. WTF?! It's 2010 and you're implementing XMLRPC. Srsly guys? What's next CORBA? Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Philippe:
What is bad with xmlrpc? A lot of sites are using it to expose its data.... Cheers. Germán. 2010/6/27 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>: > On 26.06.2010 19:27, Germán Arduino wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'm very happy of announce that ESUG will be sponsoring my work to >> develop a XMLRPC client interface, as I comment on my blog: >> http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2010/06/esug-will-sponsor-xmlrpc-project.html. >> >> I want to thank publicly to Stéphane Ducasse, Alain Plantec, Nuory >> Bouraqadi and ESUG, as they are sponsoring this initiative under the >> "support your project" program, described in >> http://www.esug.org/Promotion/Project . Thanks you very much ESUG. >> >> Any comment or suggestion to this project is more than welcomed. > > WTF?! It's 2010 and you're implementing XMLRPC. Srsly guys? What's next > CORBA? > > Cheers > Philippe > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- ================================================= Germán S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com ================================================= _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 10:39:46AM -0300, Germ?n Arduino wrote:
> 2010/6/27 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>: > > On 26.06.2010 19:27, Germ?n Arduino wrote: > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> I'm very happy of announce that ESUG will be sponsoring my work to > >> develop a XMLRPC client interface, as I comment on my blog: > >> http://germanarduino.blogspot.com/2010/06/esug-will-sponsor-xmlrpc-project.html. > >> > >> I want to thank publicly to St?phane Ducasse, Alain Plantec, Nuory > >> Bouraqadi and ESUG, as they are sponsoring this initiative under the > >> "support your project" program, described in > >> http://www.esug.org/Promotion/Project . Thanks you very much ESUG. > >> > >> Any comment or suggestion to this project is more than welcomed. > > > > WTF?! It's 2010 and you're implementing XMLRPC. Srsly guys? What's next > > CORBA? > > > Hi Philippe: > > What is bad with xmlrpc? A lot of sites are using it to expose its data.... There is a lot to be said for a simple, well-defined protocol that works reliably, is easy to understand, and can be readily maintained as a package for Pharo/Squeak. XMLRPC sounds like a good project to me :) And thanks to ESUG for sponsoring projects like this. Dave _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 27.06.2010 15:39, Germán Arduino wrote:
> Hi Philippe: > > What is bad with xmlrpc? A lot of sites are using it to expose its data.... Like whom? Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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As flickr, blogger, wordpress, Joomla sites, Google blog search,
Drupal sites, delicious, zope, products as SAP, to mention a few that I have in mind now.... I means, not only web sites, also products and I think also that is a compact protocol that could permit to implement an API to servers / products easily. Cheers. Germán. 2010/6/27 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>: > On 27.06.2010 15:39, Germán Arduino wrote: >> Hi Philippe: >> >> What is bad with xmlrpc? A lot of sites are using it to expose its data.... > > Like whom? > > Cheers > Philippe > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- ================================================= Germán S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com ================================================= _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 06/28/2010 12:25 AM, Germán Arduino wrote:
> As flickr, Besides REST and SOAP > blogger, Nope, not any more. > wordpress, ok > Joomla sites, ok > Google blog search, Couldn't find anything about it. Google is standardizing on GData and "AJAX". Even SOAP is being phased out. > Drupal sites, Moving away from XML-RPC like anybody else. > delicious, Couldn't find anything XML-RPC related, seems to use "REST". > zope, OK. > products as SAP, Still? I would have assumed they moved on. > to mention a few that > I have in mind now.... > > I means, not only web sites, also products and I think also that is a > compact protocol that could permit to implement an API to servers / > products easily. My impression is that people either moved from XML-RCP to SOAP or abandoned the idea and went to REST. I don't know anybody who considers it for new projects. Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 28/06/10 13:11, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> My impression is that people either moved from XML-RCP to SOAP or > abandoned the idea and went to REST. I don't know anybody who considers > it for new projects. > As Philippe stated, many projects are moving to REST. REST/JSON webservices are getting all the hype these days... _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Thanks.
May be german should have a look at this solution instead of XML-RCP. Stef >> My impression is that people either moved from XML-RCP to SOAP or >> abandoned the idea and went to REST. I don't know anybody who considers >> it for new projects. >> > > As Philippe stated, many projects are moving to REST. > REST/JSON webservices are getting all the hype these days... > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> WTF?! It's 2010 and you're implementing XMLRPC. Srsly guys? What's next > CORBA? In the past month I ran into two XML-RPC integrations. Funnily enough, CORBA as well. Usually you don't get to dictate the protocol used by the integration partner. -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix - http://danieroux.com _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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And REST+JSON is easy to do with what is available in Pharo/Seaside/WebClient:
client := WebClient new. client authCredentialsBlock: [:client :realm :fail | client username: '680'; password: ((MD5 new hashMessage: 'secret') hex) ]. response := client httpGet: 'http://api.t3-platform.net:9000/users/680'. JSJsonParser parse: response content. Sven PS: Only HTTPS is missing ;-) On 28 Jun 2010, at 13:35, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks. > May be german should have a look at this solution instead of XML-RCP. > > Stef > >>> My impression is that people either moved from XML-RCP to SOAP or >>> abandoned the idea and went to REST. I don't know anybody who considers >>> it for new projects. >>> >> >> As Philippe stated, many projects are moving to REST. >> REST/JSON webservices are getting all the hype these days... >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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ROS (Robot Operating System) use XML-RPC :
http://www.ros.org/wiki/ On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 06/28/2010 12:25 AM, Germán Arduino wrote: >> As flickr, > > Besides REST and SOAP > >> blogger, > > Nope, not any more. > >> wordpress, > > ok > >> Joomla sites, > > ok > >> Google blog search, > > Couldn't find anything about it. Google is standardizing on GData and > "AJAX". Even SOAP is being phased out. > >> Drupal sites, > > Moving away from XML-RPC like anybody else. > >> delicious, > > Couldn't find anything XML-RPC related, seems to use "REST". > >> zope, > > OK. > >> products as SAP, > > Still? I would have assumed they moved on. > >> to mention a few that >> I have in mind now.... >> >> I means, not only web sites, also products and I think also that is a >> compact protocol that could permit to implement an API to servers / >> products easily. > > My impression is that people either moved from XML-RCP to SOAP or > abandoned the idea and went to REST. I don't know anybody who considers > it for new projects. > > Cheers > Philippe > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/6/28 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>:
> On 06/28/2010 12:25 AM, Germán Arduino wrote: >> As flickr, > > Besides REST and SOAP > >> blogger, > > Nope, not any more. > >> wordpress, > > ok > >> Joomla sites, > > ok > >> Google blog search, > > Couldn't find anything about it. Google is standardizing on GData and > "AJAX". Even SOAP is being phased out. > >> Drupal sites, > > Moving away from XML-RPC like anybody else. > >> delicious, > > Couldn't find anything XML-RPC related, seems to use "REST". > >> zope, > > OK. > >> products as SAP, > > Still? I would have assumed they moved on. > >> to mention a few that >> I have in mind now.... >> >> I means, not only web sites, also products and I think also that is a >> compact protocol that could permit to implement an API to servers / >> products easily. > > My impression is that people either moved from XML-RCP to SOAP or > abandoned the idea and went to REST. I don't know anybody who considers > it for new projects. > Blogger and Google in general yes, are moving to GData but xml-rpc is still suported. But I understand your point, you think that isn't worth to invest in this protocol. I need to think about. Cheers. Germán. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hello,
For information about protocol usage see: http://www.programmableweb.com/apis REST: 72% XML-RPC: 2% Jan. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Germán Arduino <[hidden email]> wrote: 2010/6/28 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>: -- Jan van de Sandt gsm: +31 (0)6 3039 5998 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 28/06/2010 22:18, Germán Arduino wrote:
> > Blogger and Google in general yes, are moving to GData but xml-rpc is > still suported. > > But I understand your point, you think that isn't worth to invest in > this protocol. > > I need to think about. > > It is still in use though, and as mentioned elsewhere on this thread you don't get to dictate the protocol the people on the other side use :) _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 28.06.2010 23:18, Germán Arduino wrote:
> 2010/6/28 Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]>: >> On 06/28/2010 12:25 AM, Germán Arduino wrote: >>> As flickr, >> >> Besides REST and SOAP >> >>> blogger, >> >> Nope, not any more. >> >>> wordpress, >> >> ok >> >>> Joomla sites, >> >> ok >> >>> Google blog search, >> >> Couldn't find anything about it. Google is standardizing on GData and >> "AJAX". Even SOAP is being phased out. >> >>> Drupal sites, >> >> Moving away from XML-RPC like anybody else. >> >>> delicious, >> >> Couldn't find anything XML-RPC related, seems to use "REST". >> >>> zope, >> >> OK. >> >>> products as SAP, >> >> Still? I would have assumed they moved on. >> >>> to mention a few that >>> I have in mind now.... >>> >>> I means, not only web sites, also products and I think also that is a >>> compact protocol that could permit to implement an API to servers / >>> products easily. >> >> My impression is that people either moved from XML-RCP to SOAP or >> abandoned the idea and went to REST. I don't know anybody who considers >> it for new projects. >> > > Blogger and Google in general yes, are moving to GData but xml-rpc is > still suported. > > But I understand your point, you think that isn't worth to invest in > this protocol. It doesn't strike me as a forward looking investment. IMHO XML-RCP is something that will only get used less in the future, not more. The value you get from an XML-RCP implementation will become less and less as fewer services support it. But then again ESUG is free to spend their money on what they seem fit. If they disagree or decide the current use is big enough, I have no problem at all with this. Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Philippe this is good that you reacted. The point of esug is to support actions
that will help people so probably XML-RCP is not a really good choice. Now what would be good is to have a map of current techno and their support for smalltalk. Then act to fill up the gaps. Stef > > It doesn't strike me as a forward looking investment. IMHO XML-RCP is > something that will only get used less in the future, not more. The > value you get from an XML-RCP implementation will become less and less > as fewer services support it. > > But then again ESUG is free to spend their money on what they seem fit. > If they disagree or decide the current use is big enough, I have no > problem at all with this. > > Cheers > Philippe > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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