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Damien Cassou

[FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

Hi,

I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try
it and report problems:

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/artifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg

Best,

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Damien Cassou
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"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

NorbertHartl

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

Wow! That is really great and it works like with an other application.

Awesome!

Norbert

Am 05.11.2013 um 11:18 schrieb Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:

> Hi,
>
> I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try
> it and report problems:
>
> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/artifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Damien Cassou
> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>
> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
> losing enthusiasm."
> Winston Churchill
>

MartinW

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Damien Cassou

"Damien Cassou“ wrote

I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try
it and report problems:

Works fine on 10.8.5.
But in my Applications Folder is already the Pharo VM called „Pharo“, so perhaps you should rename the launcher to „Pharo Launcher“ or something like this?

AND, the Launcher looks great! Did you describe somewhere, how you made the UI so that it fills the whole Pharo Window? And one can even change to and from „Developer Mode“ easily via settings. I only deployed a Pharo Desktop application once - and with great pain - and your way of doing things might be extremly useful to others!

Please write a blogpost about it or a chapter for one of the Pharo books :)

Best regards,
Martin.

nacho

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Damien Cassou

It works perfectly, so far. Nice the addition of Pharo Launcher!.

cheers

Nacho

Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try
it and report problems:

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/artifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg

Best,

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Ben Coman

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by MartinW

MartinW wrote:

"Damien Cassou“ wrote

I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try
it and report problems:


Works fine on 10.8.5.
But in my Applications Folder is already the Pharo VM called „Pharo“, so
perhaps you should rename the launcher to „Pharo Launcher“ or something like
this?

AND, the Launcher looks great! Did you describe somewhere, how you made the
UI so that it fills the whole Pharo Window?

Have a look PhLDeploymentScript #doAll and #undoAll. It was quite enlightening to discover how it works.
In addition, I think PharoLauncher is a great showcase for anyone wanting to see how Spec is used in practice. Its not too large and the code is well designed and accessible. As my first exposure to Spec I found it reasonably straightforward to extend PharoLauncher to add a few of those features you are looking at.

And one can even change to and from „Developer Mode“ easily via settings.

Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough contributions.

cheers -ben

Best regards,
Martin.



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Benjamin Van Ryseghem (Pharo)

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

On 05 Nov 2013, at 14:01, [hidden email] wrote:

MartinW wrote:

"Damien Cassou“ wrote

I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try
it and report problems:


Works fine on 10.8.5.
But in my Applications Folder is already the Pharo VM called „Pharo“, so
perhaps you should rename the launcher to „Pharo Launcher“ or something like
this?

AND, the Launcher looks great! Did you describe somewhere, how you made the
UI so that it fills the whole Pharo Window?

This can be done with any Spec-based UI by opening it with #openWorldWithSpec

Ben

Have a look PhLDeploymentScript #doAll and #undoAll. It was quite enlightening to discover how it works.
In addition, I think PharoLauncher is a great showcase for anyone wanting to see how Spec is used in practice. Its not too large and the code is well designed and accessible. As my first exposure to Spec I found it reasonably straightforward to extend PharoLauncher to add a few of those features you are looking at.
And one can even change to and from „Developer Mode“ easily via settings. 
Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough contributions.

cheers -ben
Best regards,
Martin.



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Damien Cassou

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Ben Coman

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're
> missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough
> contributions.

and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you.

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Manfred Kröhnert

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

This looks really great!

Thanks for your efforts.

Just a minor issue with the DMG itself.

When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.

See attached image.

Best,

Manfred

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're
> missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough
> contributions.

and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you.

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

kilon.alios

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

This is very good job. Looks polished, easy to use, straight to the point. Well done Damien.

The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources necessary for running the image ?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

This looks really great!
Thanks for your efforts.

Just a minor issue with the DMG itself.

When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.
See attached image.

Best,
Manfred

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're
> missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough
> contributions.

and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you.

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

nacho

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

You can always check in System > Settings to automatically download sources when needed.

cheers.

Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

This is very good job. Looks polished, easy to use, straight to the point. Well done Damien.

The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources necessary for running the image ?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

This looks really great!
Thanks for your efforts.

Just a minor issue with the DMG itself.

When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.
See attached image.

Best,
Manfred

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're
> missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough
> contributions.

and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you.

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina.

kilon.alios

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

ah thank you , it worked like charm :)

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Ignacio Matías Sniechowski <[hidden email]> wrote:

You can always check in System > Settings to automatically download sources when needed.
cheers.

Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

This is very good job. Looks polished, easy to use, straight to the point. Well done Damien.

The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources necessary for running the image ?

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

This looks really great!
Thanks for your efforts.

Just a minor issue with the DMG itself.

When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.
See attached image.

Best,
Manfred

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're
> missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough
> contributions.

and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you.

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Damien Cassou

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> wrote:
> This is due to Gatekeeper I think. I managed to open it by choosing Open
> in the right click menu in Finder. see
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5290> I think you need to sign the app

thank you for the reference. I will have a look. I wanted to put the
application on the Mac App Store, but it looks I would have to pay
Apple and I don't want to. Hope your solution doesn't require that.

> The Launcher looks for and save images in ~/Library/Preferences/Pharo
> This is wrong it should be ~/Library/Application/Support/Pharo for
> general use, there is a case for using ~/Library/Containers to fit in
> with Apple's sandboxing.

I wanted to do that already. Thanks for the directory names. Do you
have an url where Apple discusses such directories?

> Or better allow us to chnage the directory

That's on my todo. As always, I need help. This is the kind of change
people can do easily (the preference mechanism is already in place).
So, if you want to hack on the launcher, this would be a good start.

> The icons are odd, trying to get a new Pharo 3 image it says hit refresh
> icon which took me some time to find. Although I am bad at all icons so
> might just be me.

It's not just you. I see 2 solutions:

- have a menu item to refresh when right clicking on the "hit refresh
button" message.
- automatically download the content when expanding the tree.

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Damien Cassou

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by MartinW

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:08 PM, MartinW <[hidden email]> wrote:
> But in my Applications Folder is already the Pharo VM called „Pharo“, so
> perhaps you should rename the launcher to „Pharo Launcher“ or something like
> this?

In my view, the Pharo Launcher will be the only installed Pharo for
every new users of Pharo 3.0. So, I don't want to rename the
application "Pharo Launcher". When you install Eclipse, you don't
expect to get a "Eclipse Launcher" application, do you? :-)

> AND, the Launcher looks great! Did you describe somewhere, how you made the
> UI so that it fills the whole Pharo Window?
> Please write a blogpost about it or a chapter for one of the Pharo books :)

That would be great. But I can't do it because I don't have time. If
you want to write something by looking at the source code, I would be
very happy to help you and proof read your text. That could become
your first contribution to a Pharo book :-)

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Damien Cassou

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Manfred Kröhnert

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.

I've never seen this tool bar you have with the slider (I'm not a MacOS user). I think this is the cause of the fex pixels missing at the bottom. Is it a standard bar on all Finder windows? I will make sure to leave some space after the text in case other users have the same tool bar.

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Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Damien Cassou

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by kilon.alios

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources necessary for running the image ?

I'm very surprised, I didn't see this. Does it also happen for others?

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

EstebanLM

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

Damien, I think the RMoD team has an account that you can use to put apps in the apple store .

Cheers,

Esteban

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources necessary for running the image ?

I'm very surprised, I didn't see this. Does it also happen for others?

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

nacho

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Damien Cassou

It happened to me, though I easily fixed checking the option for automatically download sources when needed (perhaps you can make that as a default).

Nice work Damien.

best regards

Nacho

Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources necessary for running the image ?

I'm very surprised, I didn't see this. Does it also happen for others?

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Damien Cassou

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Manfred Kröhnert

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just a minor issue with the DMG itself.
When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.

See attached image.

Would you please try the new dmg?

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/18/artifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Manfred Kröhnert

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

Hi Damien,

the new version looks great (see new screenshot).

Actually, it seems like I get this toolbar for every read-only directory I open.

Maybe this is a setting I turned on long time ago and forgot by now that it exists.

Thanks a lot,

Manfred

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just a minor issue with the DMG itself.
When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.

See attached image.

Would you please try the new dmg?

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/18/artifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

nacho

Re: [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

In reply to this post by Damien Cassou

Damien,

The new dmg works perfect in my system OS X 10.9. The issue with the sources is fixed.

Thanks for this. It's great to have all the images in the same launcher.

Nacho.

Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Manfred Kröhnert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just a minor issue with the DMG itself.
When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window.

See attached image.

Would you please try the new dmg?

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/18/artifact/pharo-build/Pharo%203.0.0.dmg

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina.