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Stéphane Ducasse

Fixing Polymorph overrides

Hi gary

We discussed yesterday and we would like to know how we could reduce
the overrides
made by polymorph because we will get in trouble in the long run.
What is your view on that?

Stef

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Igor Stasenko

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

2009/2/24 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
> Hi gary
>
> We discussed yesterday and we would like to know how we could reduce
> the overrides
> made by polymorph because we will get in trouble in the long run.
> What is your view on that?
>

Can i put my 5 cents in it?

- collect all such overrides into a separate package, named Morphic :)

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Stéphane Ducasse

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

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> - collect all such overrides into a separate package, named Morphic :)

lol

probably part of the solution is there :)
Stef

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Igor Stasenko

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

2009/2/24 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:

>>
>>>
>>
>> Can i put my 5 cents in it?
>>
>> - collect all such overrides into a separate package, named Morphic :)
>
> lol
>
> probably part of the solution is there :)

and its a good chance to take an overview of them, check
duplicates/unnecessary code & overall design.
Mostly the same things Pharo is currently concerned with :)

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Gary Chambers-4

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

In reply to this post by Stéphane Ducasse

If (as previously requested) a list of problem methods can be collated
(those that conflict with Squeak due to removals in Pharo) then I should be
able to split things into separate packages.

That will help with some things though tricky with overrides since they will
need to be unloadable in Squeak at least.

An override merely indicates to MC that upon unload a previous version
should be reinstated.

Regards, Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]>
To: "Pharo Development" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: [Pharo-project] Fixing Polymorph overrides

> Hi gary
>
> We discussed yesterday and we would like to know how we could reduce
> the overrides
> made by polymorph because we will get in trouble in the long run.
> What is your view on that?
>
> Stef
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Gary Chambers-4

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

Will become quite tricky to maintain compatability with both Squeak and
Pharo.

Perhaps you (all) could describe the state of affairs that would be
preferred for Pharo and I'll have a think.

Regards, Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Chambers" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fixing Polymorph overrides

If (as previously requested) a list of problem methods can be collated
(those that conflict with Squeak due to removals in Pharo) then I should be
able to split things into separate packages.

That will help with some things though tricky with overrides since they will
need to be unloadable in Squeak at least.

An override merely indicates to MC that upon unload a previous version
should be reinstated.

Regards, Gary

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To: "Pharo Development" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: [Pharo-project] Fixing Polymorph overrides

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Stéphane Ducasse

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

Ideally we would like to have no overrides.
Now any solution going into that direction would be a good step.

> Will become quite tricky to maintain compatability with both Squeak
> and
> Pharo.
>
> Perhaps you (all) could describe the state of affairs that would be
> preferred for Pharo and I'll have a think.
>
> Regards, Gary

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Michael Rueger-6

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Ideally we would like to have no overrides.
> Now any solution going into that direction would be a good step.

Would it be possible to integrate the overrides into Pharo and them make
a compatibility package for Squeak that adds those overrides to Squeak
before loading Polymorph?

Michael

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Michael Rueger-6

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

Michael Rueger wrote:
> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> Ideally we would like to have no overrides.
>> Now any solution going into that direction would be a good step.
>
> Would it be possible to integrate the overrides into Pharo and them make

We actually need to do that anyways I think, as the Unicode changes not
surprisingly overlap with some of the Polymorph overrides.

Michael

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Stéphane Ducasse

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

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Would be an excellent way to do it :)

On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:

> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> Ideally we would like to have no overrides.
>> Now any solution going into that direction would be a good step.
>
> Would it be possible to integrate the overrides into Pharo and them
> make
> a compatibility package for Squeak that adds those overrides to Squeak
> before loading Polymorph?
>
> Michael
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Gary Chambers-4

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

Fair enough. I can make a new package for the overrides specifically for
Squeak. Will just have to be careful when (if) new overrides are needed for
Squeak and then to somehow make available for Pharo.

Regards, Gary

----- Original Message -----
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Would be an excellent way to do it :)

On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:

Stéphane Ducasse

Re: Fixing Polymorph overrides

Excellent!

Stef

On Mar 1, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Gary Chambers wrote:

> Fair enough. I can make a new package for the overrides specifically
> for
> Squeak. Will just have to be careful when (if) new overrides are
> needed for
> Squeak and then to somehow make available for Pharo.
>
> Regards, Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Fixing Polymorph overrides
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>
> Would be an excellent way to do it :)
>
> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:
>
>> Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>> Ideally we would like to have no overrides.
>>> Now any solution going into that direction would be a good step.
>>
>> Would it be possible to integrate the overrides into Pharo and them
>> make
>> a compatibility package for Squeak that adds those overrides to
>> Squeak
>> before loading Polymorph?
>>
>> Michael
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