Now that VAST 9.1 looks and feels better on Linux, I'd like to make it a home. One of the things that are really annoying to me is the selection of Fonts available for Browsers and Code. The standard font imo is ugly. Unfortunately, the selection of alternative fonts is very small on both Kubuntu and Xfce. And, to put it positively, given that selection, the default font is by far the best choice. I guess this is due to the fact that the Motif Library used in VAST uses some ancient font formats or even ships its own... ? Does anybody know what kind of fonts I'd have to install to make them available in VAST? Is there anything special I need to do to use installed system fonts within the IDE? The desktop environments these days ship with really nice fonts and I guess they'd work well in a Smalltalk Browser... Joachim You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VA Smalltalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. To post to this group, send email to [hidden email]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/va-smalltalk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
So here I am, looking at the ECAP 3 of 9.2 in Kubuntu. It's not a full replacement for the Windows version, given there is no Scintilla support in VAST on Linux. I guess this will not change before VAST has its home on GTK or similar. 9.2 improves its look&feel on Linux again, making development on Linux even better. Mousewheel scrolling and the removal of some "keyboard oddities" are really nice. I'd like to change the code and browser fonts to make this even better. But the font prompter only offers a hand full of more or less useless fonts, while other Applications on Kubuntu display wonderfully crafted fonts and offer a plethora of fonts. I guess I need some fonts in some pre-Gnome/GTK format (motif-compatible?) and install these. I just don't know what to look for... Any hints? Joachim You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VA Smalltalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/va-smalltalk/3057a196-b9ba-439d-9df7-32472551a10d%40googlegroups.com. |
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:18 AM Joachim Tuchel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Joachim, Yes, I mostly agree with you. The only bit I will add is that I used wine very very happily in Linux (I already sent an email about this). Scintilla and even HiDPI worked nicely.
Indeed 9.2 improves again the usability on Linux. I am glad you noticed.
VA Smalltalk on Linux uses the X server to provide and render fonts. You should be able to select and use any font that can be made available and rendered by the platform’s X server. However, not all X servers support all fonts. I presume you are familiar with using xlsfonts to list the available fonts. If not, what I normally do in Ubuntu/Debian kind of thing is: sudo apt-get install xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-cyrillic xfonts-scalable xfonts-encodings Then with `xlsfonts` check what I have and see if I have something I like more and later set that in VAST. But again, I couldn't find anything that made a big difference. If you do, please let me know. Best regards, Mariano Martinez Peck Software Engineer, Instantiations Inc. Email: [hidden email] Twitter: https://twitter.com/MartinezPeck Blog: https://marianopeck.wordpress.com/You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VA Smalltalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/va-smalltalk/CAOUkibHsG2kYaEKZ36dpSsi-2ganKdRpYXh3ZGU1dWVSejbnyQ%40mail.gmail.com. |
HI Mariano, thanks fro explaining. I installed the ones you suggested (sans cyrillic) and I found Kubuntu already had most of the installed. I couldn't find anything other than bistream courier that's slightly better than the default. Joachim Am Dienstag, 19. November 2019 13:37:47 UTC+1 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck:
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Hi Mariano, just a little side comment: Wine is not an option if you have to test/explore Linux specific problems. Examples:
Thes are only the situations in which I could only find and safely reproduce production problems on Linux. I guess there are more. There are situations that can only be tested/debugged on the target platform. So, yes, you can use Wine for VAST and it seems to run fine, but it is not a full replacement for "native" VAST on Linux. Joachim You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VA Smalltalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/va-smalltalk/7b9d04de-8b02-4884-aadd-b9e1e299619f%40googlegroups.com. |
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 10:46 AM Joachim Tuchel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Joachim, You and me have already discussed that: http://forum.world.st/Running-VA-on-Linux-current-UI-status-and-roadmap-WAS-Re-One-page-VA-Smalltalk-manual-tp5099615p5099716.html Anyway, I agree with you and that's why we will try to push for GTK. Cheers, Mariano Martinez Peck Software Engineer, Instantiations Inc. Email: [hidden email] Twitter: https://twitter.com/MartinezPeck Blog: https://marianopeck.wordpress.com/You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VA Smalltalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/va-smalltalk/CAOUkibGeG_e1SLPQOg0kvCfp9yXqScMkw0yX091H3613%3DAkJdQ%40mail.gmail.com. |
Sorry for that ;-) You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VA Smalltalk" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/va-smalltalk/93018060-87f7-4b17-9887-48613d9c88b9%40googlegroups.com. |
No problem. Just wanted to link both conversations for the future. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:24 AM Joachim Tuchel <[hidden email]> wrote:
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