Fossil and Filetree

Le 21/10/2015 22:03, Thierry Goubier a écrit :
Okay, thanks.
Not sure I can handle it right now, there are a lot of know-how about
git and fossil implicated.

Hilaire

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Le 22/10/2015 10:47, Thierry Goubier a écrit :
> Still, with all the people interested by Fossil, I think the
> motivation is there. And it would be nice to see a bit of refactoring
> to decouple the format from the specific commands used for the
> specific VCS.
>
Decoupling was my first though looking at the code. So it makes it
bigger than a small hack as initially though ;)

Hilaire

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Hilaire, if you are interested in contributing, I would be willing to
add you to the FileTree project up on GitHub ... Oops, unless you don't
want to be:)

Dale

On 10/22/2015 01:40 AM, Hilaire wrote:

I will write you if needed, I am not there yet.

Hilaire

Le 22/10/2015 22:51, Dale Henrichs a écrit :

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Le 22/10/2015 10:47, Thierry Goubier a écrit :
> Yes, I guess so.
>
> Still, with all the people interested by Fossil, I think the
> motivation is there. And it would be nice to see a bit of refactoring
> to decouple the format from the specific commands used for the
> specific VCS.
>
> Thierry

I started to look at it creating abstracted super classes. But RB
(refactoring tool I guess) bumped on the middle, try again,  then went
fine, ouf!
Any sandbox where to commit?

Hilaire

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Thierry and Hilaire,

If you want to work together up on the github repo, that's up to you and
Hilaire, if you have a github id, let me know and I will add you as a
contributor on the project so that you two can work together ...

Dale

On 10/24/15 6:55 AM, Hilaire wrote:

Hilaire, Dale,

the easiest would be to make a fork of filetree on github, and try from
there. But a branch in the main filetree would work just as well, with
the added benefit of the travis CI integration (and gitfiletree has
tests in there). Running tests locally is often necessary, but setting
it up is a bit more involved (but I should have that in a Makefile
somewhere).

Hilaire, if you prefer a Smalltalkhub project, just do so and I'll make
regular merges back into filetree.

Thierry

Le 24/10/2015 18:04, Dale Henrichs a écrit :

I was not aware filetree need to be modified as well? But wait, I can
use it right now with Fossil, so I am bit lost.

Hilaire

Le 24/10/2015 18:44, Thierry Goubier a écrit :

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Le 24/10/2015 18:56, Hilaire a écrit :
> I was not aware filetree need to be modified as well? But wait, I can
> use it right now with Fossil, so I am bit lost.

No, no. This is just the development of GitFileTree is integrated inside
the main FileTree repository.

If you look at
https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree/tree/pharo4.0/repository, you'll
find both MonticelloFileTree-Core and MonticelloFileTree-Git (as well as
the Tests and the GitTests).

Thierry

At the end of the day, I would assume that it would be possible to run
travis-ci tests against a fossil repository which would be very useful
to have ... but like I said, I'm fine with whatever you guys decide...

Dale

On 10/24/15 10:12 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote:

Le 24/10/2015 18:44, Thierry Goubier a écrit :
> Hilaire, if you prefer a Smalltalkhub project, just do so and I'll
> make regular merges back into filetree.

I commited to SqueakSource a few abstractions WIP
http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/istoa/
I more or less randomly abstracted the classes but can't test, I don't
know much GIT.

Hilaire

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I understand :)

On Uto, 2015-10-20 at 11:09 +0200, Hilaire wrote:

Hello,

potential Pharo user here who just installed 5.0 image on his Debian Sid
and researching whether Smalltalk (Pharo) can be used as language for
writing some multi-platform opens-source apps...tried/evaluated several
languages, but, considering I abandon idea to use {C(++), Java}, the the
most pragmatical option so far is to use Object Pascal  and
FPC/Lazarus(fpGUI), but someone recommended to inspect Smalltalk (I was
tinkering with Digitalk looooooong ago while using OS2)...

> I have been trying Fossil with Filetree, and I was rather please by
> the mutuals use of these tools. So I may share a few feedbacks.
> Fossil[1] itself is a software to manage source code development. It
> is very simple to install and data is saved in a single sqlite
> database. It comes with source code management, bug tracker, web
> interface, wiki and timeline tools.

so I'm delighted to see the talk about using Fossil for VCS tool with
Pharo.

> So all in all, it is pretty nice if one want to move to a private
> souce code management system with very little requirement.

For those Git-lovers, there is plan by Dr Richard Hipp (author of
Fossil) to provide support which "would allow you to "clone" repos off
of GitHub.  Or to automatically sync your Fossil repositories on
GitHub." (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.fossil-scm
.devel/580)

Where can I find more about using Fossil with Pharo?

Sincerely,
Gour

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Hello,

As for now, you have to use filetree, over fossil repo, but from Pharo
you can only save to the repo, no way to fetch back I think.

The GIT integration is more advanced with dedicated GIT package for Pharo.
As a first iteration, I did some code modifications -- blindly I have to
admit -- of the GIT package to decouple it from GIT, to later add fossil
capability.
Thierry was looking at integrating it in Jenkins job, to see if it is
working or not.

But if you are potential Pharo users, you should not waste your time on
the CVS question but discover first the Pharo language and environment.
There are other CVS options for Pharo you can use out of the box.

Hilaire

>> So all in all, it is pretty nice if one want to move to a private
>> souce code management system with very little requirement.
>
> Where can I find more about using Fossil with Pharo?
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
>


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Le 22/12/15 11:39, Saša Janiška a écrit :
> On Uto, 2015-10-20 at 11:09 +0200, Hilaire wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> potential Pharo user here who just installed 5.0 image on his Debian Sid
> and researching whether Smalltalk (Pharo) can be used as language for
> writing some multi-platform opens-source apps...

Yes it does
> tried/evaluated several
> languages, but, considering I abandon idea to use {C(++), Java}, the the
> most pragmatical option so far is to use Object Pascal  and
> FPC/Lazarus(fpGUI),
Pharo is really working on multi-platforms for real.

> but someone recommended to inspect Smalltalk (I was
> tinkering with Digitalk looooooong ago while using OS2)...

Pay attention Pharo 50 is alpha.
Yes this is a smart move
>
> Where can I find more about using Fossil with Pharo?
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
>

On Uto, 2015-12-22 at 15:23 +0100, Hilaire wrote:

> As for now, you have to use filetree, over fossil repo, but from Pharo
> you can only save to the repo, no way to fetch back I think.

OK.

> But if you are potential Pharo users, you should not waste your time
> on the CVS question but discover first the Pharo language and
> environment.

Sure, I'm really excited about it and exploring further. However, it's
nice to find users within Pharo community who can see the merits of
Fossil DVCS.


Sincerely,
Gour

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On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 09:38:20AM +0100, Saša Janiška wrote:
> Sure, I'm really excited about it and exploring further. However, it's
> nice to find users within Pharo community who can see the merits of
> Fossil DVCS.

I use Fossil as personal wiki, VCS for config files, and ticketing system. I
like it very much. For now I'm not bothered about integrating Fossil as a Pharo
VCS though. I just use Monticello.

Pierce