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Runar Jordahl

Frameworks for Serializing Objects

For a hobby project I want to serialize VisualWorks object graphs. I
have used BOSS, which works well, but I wonder which other
alternatives there are. Does anybody here have experience with other
frameworks?

SIXX (http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~umejava/smalltalk/sixx/index.html)
seems to be in beta, and I am not really sure XML is what I want. A
compact binary representation would be better.

I also remember there was a framework presented at Smalltalk Solutions
a couple of years ago, but I cannot remember the name of that project.

One feature I would like is to have, is the opportunity to mark some
parts of the graph as not to be serialized. As an example, marking
Model>>#myDependents to be serialized would be very helpful. A
descriptor system (like TOPLink and Glorp) would probably be the best
way to archive this.

Runar

David Long @ gmail

Re: Frameworks for Serializing Objects

Hi Runar,

there is some new object serialization code in the ADK project at which you
may want to look. You can get this from the Cincom Public Repository in the
Atlantis Developers Kit parcel. The code uses SOAP, byte arrays and Parcels.

Please let me know if you have any questions,

David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Runar Jordahl" <[hidden email]>
To: "VW NC" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:10 AM
Subject: Frameworks for Serializing Objects

> For a hobby project I want to serialize VisualWorks object graphs. I
> have used BOSS, which works well, but I wonder which other
> alternatives there are. Does anybody here have experience with other
> frameworks?
>
> SIXX (http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~umejava/smalltalk/sixx/index.html)
> seems to be in beta, and I am not really sure XML is what I want. A
> compact binary representation would be better.
>
> I also remember there was a framework presented at Smalltalk Solutions
> a couple of years ago, but I cannot remember the name of that project.
>
> One feature I would like is to have, is the opportunity to mark some
> parts of the graph as not to be serialized. As an example, marking
> Model>>#myDependents to be serialized would be very helpful. A
> descriptor system (like TOPLink and Glorp) would probably be the best
> way to archive this.
>
> Runar
>

Reinout Heeck

Re: Frameworks for Serializing Objects

In reply to this post by Runar Jordahl

On Feb 14, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Runar Jordahl wrote:

> For a hobby project I want to serialize VisualWorks object graphs. I
> have used BOSS, which works well, but I wonder which other
> alternatives there are. Does anybody here have experience with other
> frameworks?

SRP is pretty good:
http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/VisualWorks/Paul+Baumann
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/publicRepository/
PlbStateReplicationProtocol.html

Unfortunately the CampSmalltalk wiki is dead at the moment, it
contains the SRP pages :-(

R
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Joerg Beekmann, DeepCove Labs (YVR)

RE: Frameworks for Serializing Objects

In reply to this post by Runar Jordahl

You may want to take a look at what OpenTalk does for serialization.
Last I looked it was not BOSS based.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Runar Jordahl [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: February 14, 2007 3:10 AM
> To: VW NC
> Subject: Frameworks for Serializing Objects
>
> For a hobby project I want to serialize VisualWorks object graphs. I
> have used BOSS, which works well, but I wonder which other
> alternatives there are. Does anybody here have experience with other
> frameworks?
>
> SIXX (http://www.mars.dti.ne.jp/~umejava/smalltalk/sixx/index.html)
> seems to be in beta, and I am not really sure XML is what I want. A
> compact binary representation would be better.
>
> I also remember there was a framework presented at Smalltalk Solutions
> a couple of years ago, but I cannot remember the name of that project.
>
> One feature I would like is to have, is the opportunity to mark some
> parts of the graph as not to be serialized. As an example, marking
> Model>>#myDependents to be serialized would be very helpful. A
> descriptor system (like TOPLink and Glorp) would probably be the best
> way to archive this.
>
> Runar