Fwd: Factorial, p175

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Subject: Re: [sbe-discussion] Factorial, p175

Date: October 12, 2013 6:55:59 AM GMT+02:00

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From: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [sbe-discussion] Factorial, p175

Date: October 12, 2013 6:55:52 AM GMT+02:00

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Stef--

So you'd rather I keep offering feedback here than making change to the TeX?

if you modify the Tex please still send your remarks here because we will have to check the text and propagate to the other 

versions and also keep a log for the other translators.

Stef

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:23 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

pay attention.

I prefer to get feedback in the list because when just code changes I change it in the french, english and spanish version of the book.

When the text changes I do it in the french and english version.

stef

That's very helpful! I, of course, have "notes":

1. I'm impressed you got this working under Windows. When people say "cygwin" to me my eyes glaze over.

2. I don't think you gain anything by obfuscating "[hidden email]". ;-) 

-->git clone git [at] github [dot] com:bencoman/PharoByExample-english.git

3. You might want to point the user to any informational messages that appear at the end of the LaTeX install. It's a long install (as you note) so it's easy to miss the bits about adding to your various PATHs.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:38 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

blake wrote:

Oh, it's huge. And it prints out instantly. :-) (Though I did notice it
printed out instantly when I ran the equivalents in Python and Ruby, too.)

I remember wrestling with this problem in the '90s: How do you make a
number that sizes itself according to its contents? So I can be impressed.

But if I'm a novice or someone who's used to working in dynamic languages,
I'm not going to understand, I don't think, why I should be impressed.
  

That is a good point.  A description of the typical problem would be useful. 
Blake, Do you want to have a go at it ? :)

Thanks very much for your feedback, but in case it can interest you have you seen...
http://blog.openinworld.com/2012/05/contributing-to-pbe/

cheers -ben

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM, stephane ducasse
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Hello

We will rephrase the sentence. The point is that 1000 factorial more than
a single integer.
Did you check its number of digits?

Stef

On Oct 9, 2013, at 12:11 AM, blake [hidden email] wrote:

    

"Note that 1000 factorial is really calculated which in many other
      

languages can be quite difficult to compute. This is an excellent example
of automatic coercion and exact handling of a number."
    

I think what's trying to be said here is that--no, I don't get the first
      

sentence at all. In what language is it difficult to compute a factorial? I
guess a lot don't have built-in functions but--I feel like I'm missing the
point.
    

Then I think, maybe the point is you would have to do the coercion and
      

"exact handling" of the number, as indicated in the next sentence, and
that's what's meant by that. But the beginning reader isn't going to know
what that means.
    

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