Fwd: If python goes Etoys, let's go scripting then - with the best IDE for creating and a clean license for running(!) scripts
I take the liberty to forward to squeak-dev, as I moved the
Sorry for the inconvenience...
> This is not sudden for me this is at least since 2000 that I want
> I was waiting for S# and nothing came. Then we tried to do diamond
> but we were too busy doing something else.
> Roel introduced primitives to VW to printout. But now this would be
> cool that I can run the scripts
> I want to write and can debug them. I'm fed up about sh, bash, ruby
> because they do not have a good debugger.
> Also at the end Ruby will have a cache and a debugger so in that
> case why not waiting....
> PS: I liked the talk of dave thomas at esug in 2002 about sapphire:
> it looks like pepsi.
>>> Professor Nierstrasz (liking the IDE of Squeak and Smalltalk a
>>> lot, but starting to build Ruby scripts for convenience (#!)
>>> reasons) asked Marcus and me about the possibility of having
>>> Squeak as a good script writing engine on the one hand and a
>>> script executor on the other hand.
>> My guess is that it's not worth the effort. Ruby makes a good
>> language for command-line scripts - it's got a Smalltalk-like
>> object model, blocks, decent libraries and good access to other
>> command-line tools. Why not just use that?
>> Why all the sudden interest in making a scripting language out of
>> Squeak? As a community we need to get our own house in order and
>> figure out how to manage the code we've got with the people we've
>> got. Then we can think about reaching out to other communities, if
>> that seems like a good idea.
>> grumble, grumble.