Fwd: Issue 1129 in pharo: UIManager #request: and #multilineRequest do not distinguish between empty and cancel

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Fwd: Issue 1129 in pharo: UIManager #request: and #multilineRequest do not distinguish between empty and cancel

Stéphane Ducasse

Hi

I kind of agree on this one.
So what is the preferred solution.
Now this is important to be able to distinguish an empty string from a  
cancel.
Stef

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> From: [hidden email]
> Date: September 26, 2009 5:07:13 AM CEDT
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Issue 1129 in pharo: UIManager #request: and  
> #multilineRequest do not  distinguish between empty and cancel
>
>
> Comment #17 on issue 1129 by andreas.raab: UIManager #request: and  
> #multilineRequest do not distinguish between empty and cancel
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1129
>
> Can I ask to reopen this issue before 1.0 goes out? It introduces a  
> superficial
> incompatibility between Pharo and Squeak or other external code that  
> is really
> unecessary. There are two excellent alternatives:
>
> 1) Extend the existing protocol, by means of, e.g,
>  result := UIMananger default request: 'What is your name?' onCancel:
> ["whatever"].
> This allows for a simple and straightforward use in cases where one  
> needs to
> distinguish between cancel and empty return and it trivially extends  
> to uses of
> multiLineRequest: as well re requestPassword:.
>
> 2) Alternatively, introduce a new protocol and deprecate the old  
> one. For example:
>  result := UIManager default ask: 'What is your name?'.
> With a changed protocol any breakage is straightforward and obvious  
> and not subtle
> and in corner cases that may not be tested for by some external  
> code. Plus, it is
> possible to provide a compatibility layer where necessary.
>
> From my point of view both of the above are far better solutions and  
> do not require
> any additional work.
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Re: Fwd: Issue 1129 in pharo: UIManager #request: and #multilineRequest do not distinguish between empty and cancel

Damien Cassou
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> I kind of agree on this one.
> So what is the preferred solution.
> Now this is important to be able to distinguish an empty string from a
> cancel.

I'm not sure. I think the fixes are small enough to apply everywhere to avoid
complicating the API. To fix external packages, you just have to
change the #isEmpty
test after the #request by #isEmptyOrNil. I already did it for part of the Pharo
image (see  issue #1233 ).

I vote for closing this report again.


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Re: Fwd: Issue 1129 in pharo: UIManager #request: and #multilineRequest do not distinguish between empty and cancel

Stéphane Ducasse
I know
now waht andreas propose is more a process to make sure that other  
places where this should be changed will be noticed
automatically

Stef

On Sep 27, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I kind of agree on this one.
>> So what is the preferred solution.
>> Now this is important to be able to distinguish an empty string  
>> from a
>> cancel.
>
> I'm not sure. I think the fixes are small enough to apply everywhere  
> to avoid
> complicating the API. To fix external packages, you just have to
> change the #isEmpty
> test after the #request by #isEmptyOrNil. I already did it for part  
> of the Pharo
> image (see  issue #1233 ).
>
> I vote for closing this report again.
>
>
> --
> Damien Cassou
> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>
> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them
> popular by not having them." James Iry
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