Fwd: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7

Hi,

I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to load Magma in a Moose image?

Doru

On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian configuration file.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7
>> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00
>> To: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Hi Stef,
>>
>> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.
>> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.
>> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the VM crashes!
>>
>> ------
>> Gofer new
>>         squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
>>         load.
>>
>>     ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project latestVersion) load
>> ------
>>
>> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for more information.
>>
>> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Hani
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dr. Hani Abdeen
>> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
>>
>>
>>

> <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt>
> <crash.dmp>
>
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Hi Hani,

Something is strange. The continuous integration server is using this script every day without problems. It's true that it is on Linux, but that should not make much of a difference.

Could you provide us with the exact things you are doing (exact links, code and step orders)?

Cheers,
Doru

On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:23, Hani Abdeen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Oops, I past a wrong code above. I try to load the default configuration of Moose not Magma:
>
> ---
> Gofer new
>         squeaksource: 'Moose';
>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>     load.
>
>     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
> ----
>
> Attached the log and crash dmp files.
>
> Thanks,
> Hani
>
> On 4 December 2011 21:16, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to load Magma in a Moose image?
>
> Doru
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> > Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian configuration file.
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> From: Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]>
> >> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7
> >> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00
> >> To: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
> >>
> >> Hi Stef,
> >>
> >> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.
> >> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.
> >> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the VM crashes!
> >>
> >> ------
> >> Gofer new
> >>         squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
> >>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
> >>         load.
> >>
> >>     ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project latestVersion) load
> >> ------
> >>
> >> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for more information.
> >>
> >> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Hani
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Dr. Hani Abdeen
> >> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt>
> > <crash.dmp>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Moose-dev mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
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>
> "What we can governs what we wish."
>
>
>
>
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> Moose-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. Hani Abdeen
> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
>
>
>
> <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt><crash.dmp>_______________________________________________
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Interesting.
I am able to reproduce the problem, even with XP. The VM indeed crashes.
At the same time, I run it on Mac, and it works well.

Hani, just download the last OneClick Image. Many students of mine are using it on a windows without any problem.

Cheers,
Alexandre

NB: I use VirtualBox to run Windows on my Mac, this is really cool. The installation is a bit tricky however.

On 4 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Hani Abdeen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes it's Strange, since me too did that several days ago and moose was loaded, but when I was playing with Moose the VM crashed. I thought that was a simple accident.
> So what I did many many times is the following:
> - unzip the Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip
> - execute pharo.exe
> - do "DEVImageWorkspaces openExternalProjectWorkspace."
> - then do:
> Gofer new
>         squeaksource: 'Moose';
>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>     load.
>
>     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
>
> When I found that there is nothing to do and I have always this crash or an error I thought that I should ask about it.
>
> Thanks,
> Hani
>
> On 4 December 2011 21:27, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Hani,
>
> Something is strange. The continuous integration server is using this script every day without problems. It's true that it is on Linux, but that should not make much of a difference.
>
> Could you provide us with the exact things you are doing (exact links, code and step orders)?
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:23, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Oops, I past a wrong code above. I try to load the default configuration of Moose not Magma:
> >
> > ---
> > Gofer new
> >         squeaksource: 'Moose';
> >         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
> >     load.
> >
> >     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
> > ----
> >
> > Attached the log and crash dmp files.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hani
> >
> > On 4 December 2011 21:16, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to load Magma in a Moose image?
> >
> > Doru
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> >
> > > Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian configuration file.
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > >> From: Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]>
> > >> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7
> > >> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00
> > >> To: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Stef,
> > >>
> > >> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.
> > >> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.
> > >> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the VM crashes!
> > >>
> > >> ------
> > >> Gofer new
> > >>         squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
> > >>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
> > >>         load.
> > >>
> > >>     ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project latestVersion) load
> > >> ------
> > >>
> > >> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for more information.
> > >>
> > >> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance,
> > >> Hani
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Dr. Hani Abdeen
> > >> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > > <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt>
> > > <crash.dmp>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Moose-dev mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> >
> > --
> > www.tudorgirba.com
> >
> > "What we can governs what we wish."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Moose-dev mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Dr. Hani Abdeen
> > Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
> >
> >
> >
> > <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt><crash.dmp>_______________________________________________
> > Moose-dev mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
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>
> "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum.
> But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of reality."
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
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>
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. Hani Abdeen
> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
>
>
>
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Hi,

On 4 Dec 2011, at 22:31, Hani Abdeen wrote:

> Thanks Alex
>
> On 4 December 2011 22:07, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Interesting.
> I am able to reproduce the problem, even with XP. The VM indeed crashes.
> At the same time, I run it on Mac, and it works well.
>
> Hani, just download the last OneClick Image. Many students of mine are using it on a windows without any problem.
>
> I thought that Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip is the last stable OneClick release.
> There is also Pharo-1.4.zip but it's annotated as unstable on Pharo-Project website. I'll try it.

Alex meant that you could use the premade Moose OneClick image:
http://ci.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/moose_suite-4_6_dev.zip

Another thing you can try is to use another VM instead of the one from the pharo oneclick. For example, try:
http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip

So, try redoing the experiment and run the Pharo image with the newly downloaded VM and let us know if it is better.

Cheers,
Doru

> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
> NB: I use VirtualBox to run Windows on my Mac, this is really cool. The installation is a bit tricky however.
>
> Yes I agree, it's great to have a strong mac and run Windows on Mac.
>
> Cheers,
> Hani
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes it's Strange, since me too did that several days ago and moose was loaded, but when I was playing with Moose the VM crashed. I thought that was a simple accident.
> > So what I did many many times is the following:
> > - unzip the Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip
> > - execute pharo.exe
> > - do "DEVImageWorkspaces openExternalProjectWorkspace."
> > - then do:
> > Gofer new
> >         squeaksource: 'Moose';
> >         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
> >     load.
> >
> >     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
> >
> > When I found that there is nothing to do and I have always this crash or an error I thought that I should ask about it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hani
> >
> > On 4 December 2011 21:27, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi Hani,
> >
> > Something is strange. The continuous integration server is using this script every day without problems. It's true that it is on Linux, but that should not make much of a difference.
> >
> > Could you provide us with the exact things you are doing (exact links, code and step orders)?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Doru
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:23, Hani Abdeen wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Oops, I past a wrong code above. I try to load the default configuration of Moose not Magma:
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Gofer new
> > >         squeaksource: 'Moose';
> > >         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
> > >     load.
> > >
> > >     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Attached the log and crash dmp files.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Hani
> > >
> > > On 4 December 2011 21:16, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to load Magma in a Moose image?
> > >
> > > Doru
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian configuration file.
> > > >
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > >
> > > >> From: Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]>
> > > >> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7
> > > >> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00
> > > >> To: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Stef,
> > > >>
> > > >> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.
> > > >> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.
> > > >> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the VM crashes!
> > > >>
> > > >> ------
> > > >> Gofer new
> > > >>         squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
> > > >>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
> > > >>         load.
> > > >>
> > > >>     ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project latestVersion) load
> > > >> ------
> > > >>
> > > >> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for more information.
> > > >>
> > > >> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks in advance,
> > > >> Hani
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> Dr. Hani Abdeen
> > > >> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt>
> > > > <crash.dmp>
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Moose-dev mailing list
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> > >
> > > --
> > > www.tudorgirba.com
> > >
> > > "What we can governs what we wish."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Moose-dev mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Dr. Hani Abdeen
> > > Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt><crash.dmp>_______________________________________________
> > > Moose-dev mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> >
> > --
> > www.tudorgirba.com
> >
> > "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum.
> > But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of reality."
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Moose-dev mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Dr. Hani Abdeen
> > Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Moose-dev mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
> --
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> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
>
>
>
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Hi Doru,

Thanks for the information.
Ok, the Croquet VM (http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip) does not crash while loading Moose on Pharo image but I still get errors when trying to load moose configuration. See the attached logs for more information.

The premade Moose images on Moose website work well :)

Cheers,
Hani

On 4 December 2011 22:51, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

On 4 Dec 2011, at 22:31, Hani Abdeen wrote:

> Thanks Alex
>
> On 4 December 2011 22:07, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Interesting.
> I am able to reproduce the problem, even with XP. The VM indeed crashes.
> At the same time, I run it on Mac, and it works well.
>
> Hani, just download the last OneClick Image. Many students of mine are using it on a windows without any problem.
>
> I thought that Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip is the last stable OneClick release.
> There is also Pharo-1.4.zip but it's annotated as unstable on Pharo-Project website. I'll try it.

Alex meant that you could use the premade Moose OneClick image:
http://ci.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/moose_suite-4_6_dev.zip

Another thing you can try is to use another VM instead of the one from the pharo oneclick. For example, try:
http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip

So, try redoing the experiment and run the Pharo image with the newly downloaded VM and let us know if it is better.

Cheers,
Doru

> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
> NB: I use VirtualBox to run Windows on my Mac, this is really cool. The installation is a bit tricky however.
>
> Yes I agree, it's great to have a strong mac and run Windows on Mac.
>
> Cheers,
> Hani
>
>
> On 4 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes it's Strange, since me too did that several days ago and moose was loaded, but when I was playing with Moose the VM crashed. I thought that was a simple accident.
> > So what I did many many times is the following:
> > - unzip the Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip
> > - execute pharo.exe
> > - do "DEVImageWorkspaces openExternalProjectWorkspace."
> > - then do:
> > Gofer new
> >         squeaksource: 'Moose';
> >         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
> >     load.
> >
> >     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
> >
> > When I found that there is nothing to do and I have always this crash or an error I thought that I should ask about it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hani
> >
> > On 4 December 2011 21:27, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi Hani,
> >
> > Something is strange. The continuous integration server is using this script every day without problems. It's true that it is on Linux, but that should not make much of a difference.
> >
> > Could you provide us with the exact things you are doing (exact links, code and step orders)?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Doru
> >
> >
> > On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:23, Hani Abdeen wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Oops, I past a wrong code above. I try to load the default configuration of Moose not Magma:
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Gofer new
> > >         squeaksource: 'Moose';
> > >         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
> > >     load.
> > >
> > >     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Attached the log and crash dmp files.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Hani
> > >
> > > On 4 December 2011 21:16, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to load Magma in a Moose image?
> > >
> > > Doru
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian configuration file.
> > > >
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > >
> > > >> From: Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]>
> > > >> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7
> > > >> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00
> > > >> To: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Stef,
> > > >>
> > > >> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.
> > > >> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.
> > > >> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the VM crashes!
> > > >>
> > > >> ------
> > > >> Gofer new
> > > >>         squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
> > > >>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
> > > >>         load.
> > > >>
> > > >>     ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project latestVersion) load
> > > >> ------
> > > >>
> > > >> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for more information.
> > > >>
> > > >> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks in advance,
> > > >> Hani
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> Dr. Hani Abdeen
> > > >> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt>
> > > > <crash.dmp>
> > > >
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let us (pharo) know the problems because this is really strange.

Stef

On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Hani performed two experiments. One with the default VM shipped with
> the Pharo OneClick, and one with the latest VM from Eliot.
>
> When using the VM from Eliot, he only got an error that seemed to be
> related to not finding something in squeaksource. That is why we
> concluded that it might have been related to squeaksource.
>
> Doru
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Yesterday I was able to install it on OSX but not on WindowsXP, and at the same time.
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 5 Dec 2011, at 06:57, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Mariano.
>>>
>>> Indeed, most likely the issue with the last email was a squeaksource problem.
>>>
>>> Hani, could you retry?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Weird. I have just tried in my machine and it works. Maybe squeaksource was
>>>> down?
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Doru,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the information.
>>>>> Ok, the Croquet VM
>>>>> (http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip) does not
>>>>> crash while loading Moose on Pharo image but I still get errors when trying
>>>>> to load moose configuration. See the attached logs for more information.
>>>>>
>>>>> The premade Moose images on Moose website work well :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Hani
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 December 2011 22:51, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 22:31, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 22:07, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Interesting.
>>>>>>> I am able to reproduce the problem, even with XP. The VM indeed
>>>>>>> crashes.
>>>>>>> At the same time, I run it on Mac, and it works well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hani, just download the last OneClick Image. Many students of mine are
>>>>>>> using it on a windows without any problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip is the last stable OneClick
>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>> There is also Pharo-1.4.zip but it's annotated as unstable on
>>>>>>> Pharo-Project website. I'll try it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex meant that you could use the premade Moose OneClick image:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ci.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/moose_suite-4_6_dev.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another thing you can try is to use another VM instead of the one from
>>>>>> the pharo oneclick. For example, try:
>>>>>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, try redoing the experiment and run the Pharo image with the newly
>>>>>> downloaded VM and let us know if it is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NB: I use VirtualBox to run Windows on my Mac, this is really cool. The
>>>>>>> installation is a bit tricky however.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I agree, it's great to have a strong mac and run Windows on Mac.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes it's Strange, since me too did that several days ago and moose
>>>>>>>> was loaded, but when I was playing with Moose the VM crashed. I thought that
>>>>>>>> was a simple accident.
>>>>>>>> So what I did many many times is the following:
>>>>>>>> - unzip the Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip
>>>>>>>> - execute pharo.exe
>>>>>>>> - do "DEVImageWorkspaces openExternalProjectWorkspace."
>>>>>>>> - then do:
>>>>>>>> Gofer new
>>>>>>>>         squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>>>>>>>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>>>>>>>     load.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I found that there is nothing to do and I have always this crash
>>>>>>>> or an error I thought that I should ask about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 21:27, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Hani,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something is strange. The continuous integration server is using this
>>>>>>>> script every day without problems. It's true that it is on Linux, but that
>>>>>>>> should not make much of a difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you provide us with the exact things you are doing (exact
>>>>>>>> links, code and step orders)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:23, Hani Abdeen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oops, I past a wrong code above. I try to load the default
>>>>>>>>> configuration of Moose not Magma:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Gofer new
>>>>>>>>>         squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>>>>>>>>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>>>>>>>>     load.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.
>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attached the log and crash dmp files.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 21:16, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to
>>>>>>>>> load Magma in a Moose image?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian
>>>>>>>>>> configuration file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Hani Abdeen <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stef,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and
>>>>>>>>>>> familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.
>>>>>>>>>>> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the
>>>>>>>>>>> default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the
>>>>>>>>>>> VM crashes!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>> Gofer new
>>>>>>>>>>>         squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>>>>>>>>>>>         package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
>>>>>>>>>>>         load.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project
>>>>>>>>>>> latestVersion) load
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for
>>>>>>>>>>> more information.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use
>>>>>>>>>>> another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>> Hani
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt>
>>>>>>>>>> <crash.dmp>
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