Fwd: RE: Where is Seaside download???

Folks -

Anyone knowledgeable up for making a Squeak4.1 based Seaside-ready image (or perhaps two: One with 2.8 and one with 3.0) that we can host on Squeak.org? I can feel the pain in the absence of the upcoming installer and it's something I think we can host reasonably easily on Squeak.org to make things easier for new users.

Cheers,
 - Andreas

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Subject:        RE: Where is Seaside download???
Date:   Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:36:01 -0400
From:   Richard Eng <[hidden email]>
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Someone updated the page but missed the point. Squeak.org points to
Seaside.st but Seaside.st still provides NO WAY to download the file.
Also, earlier versions of Seaside should be made available -- not
everyone wants to use alpha software.

Richard

 > From: [hidden email]
 > Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:59:23 +0100

 > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Where is Seaside download???
 > To: [hidden email]

 > CC: [hidden email]

 >
 > Hi Richard,
 >
 > Sorry you had trouble. We just point the download links on seaside.st
 > to whatever URL each platform gives us...
 >
 > Could someone from Squeak update the page on squeak.org?
 >
 > Julian
 >
 > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Richard Eng
 > <[hidden email]> wrote:
 > > Thanks! Works like a charm.
 > > Still, for the uninitiated, seaside.st should really get their act
together
 > > and present an easy way to download the Seaside environment, just
as shown
 > > in the video.
 > > Richard
 > >
 > >> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:35:02 +0200
 > >> From: [hidden email]
 > >> To: [hidden email]
 > >> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Where is Seaside download???
 > >>
 > >> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Richard Eng wrote:
 > >>
 > >> >
 > >> > I would like to download Seaside for Squeak, but I am unable to
find the
 > >> > location of the source code. Seaside.st and Squeak.org are
making me go in
 > >> > circles -- the source code is nowhere to be found. Even this
YouTube videos
 > >> > lies to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te9H0Dpe4mo
 > >> > Builder.seaside.st's webpage is not the same as in the video. So I'm
 > >> > really puzzled.
 > >> > This is not a very good way to promote Seaside... :(
 > >> > Richard
 > >>
 > >> Try this:
 > >> Installer ss
 > >> project: 'MetacelloRepository';
 > >> install: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30'.
 > >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30) load.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Levente
 > >>
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Hi,

I would like to have that a tiny bit more concise:


Am 2010-07-21 um 07:47 schrieb Nikolay Suslov:

> Hello,
>
> This should work for loading Seaside3 | Magritte2 | Pier2 into Squeak 4.1 image.
> In Workspace:
>
> "1. Load Metacello"
>
> (Installer repository:   'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository')
>         install: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #loadLatestVersion.

Metacello is kept recent by any of the following loads, thus, not needed
explicitely.

>
> "2. Load Seaside3"
>
> (Installer repository:
>     'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository')
>         install: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30'.
>  (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30) perform: #load.

Installer squeaksource
       poroject: 'MetacelloRepository';
       install: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside30'.

Thus, this is not having to put in an URL.
Don't know, but it feels more smalltalkish to me.

>
> "3. Load Magritte2"
>
> (Installer repository:
>     'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository')
>         install: 'ConfigurationOfMagritte2'.
>  (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagritte2) perform: #load.

idem.

>
> "4. Load Pier2"
>
> (Installer repository:
>     'http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository')
>         install: 'ConfigurationOfPier2'.
>  (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPier2) perform: #load.

idem.


so long,
       -Tobias

Hi,

Am 2010-07-21 um 11:02 schrieb Nikolay Suslov:

> ..and after all is loaded do:
>
> "Register Pier2 on Seaside"
> PRPierFrame registerAsApplication: 'pier' kernel: (PRKernel instanceNamed: 'pier')
>
> "Start Comanche server"
> WAComancheAdaptor startOn: 8080.

However, this is a bit ‘short-sighted’[1]

There is the Seaside control panel in the ‘Open…’ menu,
that manages all Adaptors currently reigstered etc.pp.

I’d propose to include this way to the Seaside control panel
instead of the startOn: doit. (if more than one Kom is started,
it will fail anyways). Isn‘t Swazoo more common as default
adaptor now?

So Long,
       -Tobias



[1] does this exist in English?

On 7/21/2010 5:01 AM, Tobias Pape wrote:

There may be more questions that will arise from that point.
E.g. OB does not make use of the Squeak4.1 default shout, hence,
this may be confusing for some people

Let's try it. Here is a starting point:

http://ftp.squeak.org/various_images/seaside/Squeak4.1/Seaside3.0.zip

Improvements, fixes, enhancements, etc. are all welcome. Also, does anyone have instructions for how to create a Seaside 2.8 based image?

Cheers,
 - Andreas