Hi,
it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? im on debian wheezy using Pharo5.0 Latest update: #50760 thanks. Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. |
Hi, My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and
use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image
open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that
case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the
image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue
involved. Cheers, Offray On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel
Contreras wrote:
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Bernardo, Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Mariano, no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. thanks. On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. |
i found this GTSpotter cleanUp. GTSpotter dontShowPreview in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. thanks. On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote:
Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. |
Hi Bernando,
Thanks for reporting. Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-extensions/ In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) Please let me know if this helps. Cheers, Doru > On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: > > i found this > > GTSpotter cleanUp. > GTSpotter dontShowPreview > > in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. > > after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. > > thanks. > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: > Mariano, > no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). > anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. > > thanks. > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: > Bernardo, > > Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. > Cheers, > Offray > > On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >> Hi, >> >> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >> >> im on debian wheezy using >> Pharo5.0 >> Latest update: #50760 >> >> thanks. >> >> >> -- >> Bernardo E.C. >> >> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > -- > Bernardo E.C. > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > > > > -- > Bernardo E.C. > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com “Live like you mean it." |
Doru
This is super annoying and has been reportd several times and gives a bad impression of Pharo. So let us take some actions. Turn spotter catalog off by default https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18674 Stef Le 3/7/16 à 06:17, Tudor Girba a écrit : > Hi Bernando, > > Thanks for reporting. > > Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-extensions/ > > In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: > GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) > > Please let me know if this helps. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > >> On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> i found this >> >> GTSpotter cleanUp. >> GTSpotter dontShowPreview >> >> in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. >> >> after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. >> >> thanks. >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Mariano, >> no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). >> anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. >> >> thanks. >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Bernardo, >> >> Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. >> Cheers, >> Offray >> >> On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >>> >>> im on debian wheezy using >>> Pharo5.0 >>> Latest update: #50760 >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernardo E.C. >>> >>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Bernardo E.C. >> >> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >> >> >> >> -- >> Bernardo E.C. >> >> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > “Live like you mean it." > > > |
Hi,
Ok. Just please note that this has nothing to do with Spotter. This extension comes from Tool-Catalog. Cheers, Doru > On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:45 AM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Doru > > This is super annoying and has been reportd several times and gives a bad impression of Pharo. > > So let us take some actions. > > Turn spotter catalog off by default > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18674 > > Stef > > > Le 3/7/16 à 06:17, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> Hi Bernando, >> >> Thanks for reporting. >> >> Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-extensions/ >> >> In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: >> GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) >> >> Please let me know if this helps. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> i found this >>> >>> GTSpotter cleanUp. >>> GTSpotter dontShowPreview >>> >>> in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. >>> >>> after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Mariano, >>> no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). >>> anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Bernardo, >>> >>> Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. >>> Cheers, >>> Offray >>> >>> On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >>>> >>>> im on debian wheezy using >>>> Pharo5.0 >>>> Latest update: #50760 >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernardo E.C. >>> >>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernardo E.C. >>> >>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> “Live like you mean it." >> >> >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." |
> Hi, > > Ok. Just please note that this has nothing to do with Spotter. This extension comes from Tool-Catalog. I think that I know it. Still it is only activated by Spotter usage. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:45 AM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Doru >> >> This is super annoying and has been reportd several times and gives a bad impression of Pharo. >> >> So let us take some actions. >> >> Turn spotter catalog off by default >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18674 >> >> Stef >> >> >> Le 3/7/16 à 06:17, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>> Hi Bernando, >>> >>> Thanks for reporting. >>> >>> Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: >>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-extensions/ >>> >>> In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: >>> GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) >>> >>> Please let me know if this helps. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> i found this >>>> >>>> GTSpotter cleanUp. >>>> GTSpotter dontShowPreview >>>> >>>> in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. >>>> >>>> after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Mariano, >>>> no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). >>>> anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Bernardo, >>>> >>>> Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Offray >>>> >>>> On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >>>>> >>>>> im on debian wheezy using >>>>> Pharo5.0 >>>>> Latest update: #50760 >>>>> >>>>> thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mariano >>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> “Live like you mean it." >>> >>> >>> >> > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > > |
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If it is the catalog loading (if !), then that would mean he has no network, which means he can't do a lot of other things, like committing code, loading code, do diffs, look at history, ...
He said he disabled it and it made no difference - if I am not misinterpreting his answers. > On 03 Jul 2016, at 08:49, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Ok. Just please note that this has nothing to do with Spotter. This extension comes from Tool-Catalog. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:45 AM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Doru >> >> This is super annoying and has been reportd several times and gives a bad impression of Pharo. >> >> So let us take some actions. >> >> Turn spotter catalog off by default >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18674 >> >> Stef >> >> >> Le 3/7/16 à 06:17, Tudor Girba a écrit : >>> Hi Bernando, >>> >>> Thanks for reporting. >>> >>> Spotter searches for multiple things depending on what is defined in the image. Each category you see in Spotter is defined in a little method that can also be enabled/disabled through the settings browser. To understand what this means, please read this: >>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/discovering-and-managing-spotter-extensions/ >>> >>> In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: >>> GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) >>> >>> Please let me know if this helps. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> i found this >>>> >>>> GTSpotter cleanUp. >>>> GTSpotter dontShowPreview >>>> >>>> in the help tutorial under the title Resetting Spotter. >>>> >>>> after the evaluation of it, gt-spotter seems to work but if you close it and you open it again, it freeze the image again!. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Mariano, >>>> no, but i have a poor ISP. and i have disable everything from the settings related with networking (urls, port). >>>> anyway, the image freeze if i open the gt-spotter. >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Bernardo, >>>> >>>> Were you without internet when spotter hunged? If true, it can be the catalog search of gt-spotter. From the preferences you can disable it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> My image becomes slow when I change my Internet connection and use spotter, for example when I suspend my laptop leaving my image open and change from home to the hackerspace or viceversa. In that case, the best way to get responsiveness back is to reopen the image. May be you can try to check if there is some network issue involved. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Offray >>>> >>>> On 02/07/16 17:50, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> it's the second time that my image freeze when i open gt spotter, pressing Alt + . doesn't interrupt it. is there something that you can do to interrupt it? >>>>> >>>>> im on debian wheezy using >>>>> Pharo5.0 >>>>> Latest update: #50760 >>>>> >>>>> thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mariano >>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> www.feenk.com >>> >>> “Live like you mean it." >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > |
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> On 03 Jul 2016, at 06:17, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > > In your case, it looks like searching for the Catalog does a remote search, and this can be a problem. To check this, please try evaluating this: > GTSpotterExtensionSettings disableProcessorDefinedInMethod: (GTSpotter>>#spotterCatalogProjectsFor:) If it is really the remote catalog loading, you could try doing it manually: CatalogProvider default loadProjectsIfNeeded. That will cache it for 24h in image. (Do save your image). Provided you are using Pharo 5. Sven |
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Tudor, i disabled that extension, and it works so i enabled it again and it continues to work therefore that's not the problem. anyway, thanks for the information im gonna be alert and try to catch this bug. thanks. On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Bernando, Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. |
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here's another report
with the image to reproduce it. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. |
If you interrupt the hung, can you check if it is waiting on a delay of a semaphore ? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <[hidden email]> wrote:
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i'll do that next time, today everything seems to work, i cannot reproduce it anymore. when it is waiting on a delay of a semaphore does the cpu consumption raise to almost 100%? On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. |
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tx for the report. I'm working often in presence of no network :) so the catalog
bites me often especially when I try to demo pharo :). Stef Le 3/7/16 à 16:55, Bernardo Ezequiel
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