GUI-like web apps on Aida

> Dear Aiders,
>
> I just looked at video of Seaside BOF on OOPSLA [1], where Aida was
> mentioned quite some times (thanks guys!) but what makes me thinking is
> an experience Giorgio Ferraris had when trying to adapt his existing
> framework for building GUI apps for the web ones. He first tried with
> Aida but fails, then he managed to do that with Seaside.
>
> This shows clearly that Aida is designed for pure web apps while for
> GUI-like web apps not so much. We can say for Seaside just the opposite:
> it is better for GUI-like web apps but not so for pure web ones. From
> this it is not hard to deduce why Giorgio had problems with adapting his
> framework to Aida.
>
> So, question now is how to downgrade Aida to deal with such GUI like web
> apps?
>
> First subquestion obviously is if this is possible at all. Answer: yes
> it is. I did such an app for a customer a year ago. Maybe it is a time
> to make a "best practices" or even a tutorial for such apps as well?
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>
> [1] seaside.avi.torrent at http://goran.krampe.se/oopsla2008/,
>     look at 29:30 and 30:40.
>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
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> Hi, Janko,
>
> I'm the one called, and I'm happy to try to explain (you know, because
> we talked a lot by phone).
>
> What I did using Seaside was an application that was a WEB version of
> an existing back end application written in VW and using the VW GUI
> framework.
> The only particular  thing is that my application had all of the
> windows generated at run time, based on meta description of them, so,
> what I wanted to do was to generate code for web instead of code for
> the VW GUI (and some other minor stuff, like manage multiple processes
> and pooling connection to the db, thing I was not doing on the GUI
> app).
>
> I tried with AIda, and what I was able to understand  (and this can be
> my fault) is that for Aida you have to follow strict rules that were
> not the one I was following.
>
> I found easier to adapt to Seaside.
>
> This is the playground I was talking of.
> HTH
>
> ciao
>
> Giorgio
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Dear Aiders,
>>
>> I just looked at video of Seaside BOF on OOPSLA [1], where Aida was
>> mentioned quite some times (thanks guys!) but what makes me thinking is
>> an experience Giorgio Ferraris had when trying to adapt his existing
>> framework for building GUI apps for the web ones. He first tried with
>> Aida but fails, then he managed to do that with Seaside.
>>
>> This shows clearly that Aida is designed for pure web apps while for
>> GUI-like web apps not so much. We can say for Seaside just the opposite:
>> it is better for GUI-like web apps but not so for pure web ones. From
>> this it is not hard to deduce why Giorgio had problems with adapting his
>> framework to Aida.
>>
>> So, question now is how to downgrade Aida to deal with such GUI like web
>> apps?
>>
>> First subquestion obviously is if this is possible at all. Answer: yes
>> it is. I did such an app for a customer a year ago. Maybe it is a time
>> to make a "best practices" or even a tutorial for such apps as well?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Janko
>>
>> [1] seaside.avi.torrent at http://goran.krampe.se/oopsla2008/,
>>     look at 29:30 and 30:40.
>>
>> --
>> Janko Mivšek
>> AIDA/Web
>> Smalltalk Web Application Server
>> http://www.aidaweb.si
>> _______________________________________________
>> Aida mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida
>>
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