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Generating html hacks for IE

squeakman
Greetings,

I have to include a hack for using IE7.  I need to produce html that
looks like this:

<a href="javascript:void(0)">item1<!--[if IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->

The Smalltalk code that I have looks like this:

html anchor with: 'item1'.

Of course this does not generate the required hack i.e.,
<!--[if IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->

Is the "right" way to produce the hack
to subclass WAAnchorTag?

How in general do people deal with having to produce specialized code
(hacks) like this for IE?

Thanks,
Frank

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RE: Generating html hacks for IE

Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)
Sure,

html revealedIf ie7; do: [html anchor with: 'item1']

See #testRevealedConditionalComment for more details,

Cheers!

-Boris

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>
> Greetings,
>
> I have to include a hack for using IE7.  I need to produce html that
> looks like this:
>
> <a href="javascript:void(0)">item1<!--[if
IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->

>
> The Smalltalk code that I have looks like this:
>
> html anchor with: 'item1'.
>
> Of course this does not generate the required hack i.e.,
> <!--[if IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->
>
> Is the "right" way to produce the hack
> to subclass WAAnchorTag?
>
> How in general do people deal with having to produce specialized code
> (hacks) like this for IE?
>
> Thanks,
> Frank
>
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RE: Generating html hacks for IE

Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)
Also, #testConditionalComment,

-Boris

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Popov
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:31 PM
> To: 'Seaside - general discussion'
> Subject: RE: [Seaside] Generating html hacks for IE
>
> Sure,
>
> html revealedIf ie7; do: [html anchor with: 'item1']
>
> See #testRevealedConditionalComment for more details,
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Boris
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:seaside-
> > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Squeaker
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:28 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Seaside] Generating html hacks for IE
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have to include a hack for using IE7.  I need to produce html that
> > looks like this:
> >
> > <a href="javascript:void(0)">item1<!--[if
IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->

> >
> > The Smalltalk code that I have looks like this:
> >
> > html anchor with: 'item1'.
> >
> > Of course this does not generate the required hack i.e.,
> > <!--[if IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->
> >
> > Is the "right" way to produce the hack
> > to subclass WAAnchorTag?
> >
> > How in general do people deal with having to produce specialized
code
> > (hacks) like this for IE?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Frank
> >
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> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
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Re: Generating html hacks for IE

Randal L. Schwartz
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>>>>> "Squeaker" == Squeaker  <[hidden email]> writes:

Squeaker> I have to include a hack for using IE7.  I need to produce html that looks
Squeaker> like this:

You should look at AListApart and others.  I think the theory is that you
should stop "hacking" for IE7, and just write good modern HTML.

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Re: Generating html hacks for IE

squeakman
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

> You should look at AListApart and others.  

Great site, AListApart, thanks for the link.

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Re: Re: Generating html hacks for IE

Randal L. Schwartz
>>>>> "Squeaker" == Squeaker  <[hidden email]> writes:

Squeaker> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> You should look at AListApart and others.

Squeaker> Great site, AListApart, thanks for the link.

And I think I was wrong on that.  I think it was "IE8" where they said it was
time to just use the standards.  So, having a conditional for IE7 might still
be reasonable, although there are often other tricks that work better.

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Re: Generating html hacks for IE

Philippe Marschall
In reply to this post by Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN)
#revealedIf and #if work only in the <head>. Not in the <body>. Doing
IE hacks in the body (especially for closing anchors) seems very
fishy.

You could do something like

html anchor
    with: [
        html text: 'item1'.
        html html: '<!--[if IE7]><!-->' ].
html html: '<!--<![endif]-->'

Cheers
Philippe


2008/5/14, Boris Popov <[hidden email]>:

> Sure,
>
>  html revealedIf ie7; do: [html anchor with: 'item1']
>
>  See #testRevealedConditionalComment for more details,
>
>  Cheers!
>
>  -Boris
>
>  --
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>  DeepCove Labs Ltd.
>  4th floor 595 Howe Street
>  Vancouver, Canada V6C 2T5
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>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [hidden email] [mailto:seaside-
>  > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Squeaker
>  > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:28 PM
>  > To: [hidden email]
>  > Subject: [Seaside] Generating html hacks for IE
>  >
>  > Greetings,
>  >
>  > I have to include a hack for using IE7.  I need to produce html that
>  > looks like this:
>  >
>  > <a href="javascript:void(0)">item1<!--[if
>  IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->
>  >
>  > The Smalltalk code that I have looks like this:
>  >
>  > html anchor with: 'item1'.
>  >
>  > Of course this does not generate the required hack i.e.,
>  > <!--[if IE7]><!--></a><!--<![endif]-->
>  >
>  > Is the "right" way to produce the hack
>  > to subclass WAAnchorTag?
>  >
>  > How in general do people deal with having to produce specialized code
>  > (hacks) like this for IE?
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Frank
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
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