GitLab and Pharo

Hi,

Anything that encourages diversity should be encouraged too. Of course there is a balance to be found between diversity and fragmentation and we're a small community, but even trying different Git front ends without going to the same (monopolistic?) provider is healthy.

For a critical perspective on GitHub and how it affects "open source" I recommend:

https://medium.com/@nayafia/we-re-in-a-brave-new-post-open-source-world-56ef46d152a3#.8owyyk8dk

(there are a lot of good comments via hypothes.is )

Cheers,

Offray

One big factor for me has been also repo size , because I make games and as you can imagine I need a lot of space.

Bit bucket has a limit of 2GB per repo while GitLab has a limit of 10GB, so for me GitLab is far better choice.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 at 16:31, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

bitbucket offers infinite private repos too, if you do not want to install a server by your own.

Esteban

On 20 Oct 2016, at 14:47, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have been looking for an alternative to Github to host my private repos, Github provides only 1 private repo and for more you have to pay. So I found this.

https://gitlab.com/

Gitlab has all the features of Github with additional advantages that is completely free and you can have as many private repos as you want. Also in terms of space , its unlimited with a limit of 10 GB per repo which makes it an excellent choice for binary files. You can have unlimited repos (the hard limit is at 100.000 repos per user which you wont reach any time soon )

A recent advantage that I discovered is that like Github , Gitlab allows you to host your own website via Gitlab pages

https://pages.gitlab.io/

The cool thing about this is that it comes with CI , which is highly configurable which means you can even make it work with Pillar. The website part can mix with existing code, meaning you can keep on the same repo the code of your pharo projects and documentation in form of website. Gitlab pages support a wide variety of static website generators , the on the interests me is gitbook

https://www.gitbook.com/

Gitbook is interesting because it comes with its own Editor you can download as a native client that handles the writing of the book / documentation and pushing and committing to the repo

https://www.gitbook.com/editor

Both Gitlab and Gitbook are free software that means they can be installed in any Pharo server and customised to whatever you want

I made an example here.
https://gitlab.com/Kilon/testbook

The gitbook documentation is hosted in the pages branch which is a nice clean way to isolate documentation from project's code but also you could alternative have everything in master and put documentation in a doc folder. You can fine tune such setup with the corresponding yaml setup file as can see here

https://gitlab.com/Kilon/testbook/blob/pages/.gitlab-ci.yml

The website generated by this repo can be viewed here

https://kilon.gitlab.io/testbook/

obviously you can also add anything that is in HTML/JS which make this ideal for blog, main websites, application frontends and pretty much everything you can imagine and because GitLab allows for unlimited amount of repos you can have unlimited amount of websites.

Have fun :)

Hi,

My only underline was about being diverse in infrastructure also. Your personal motivations for choosing GitHub are as good as anyone's for not doing so (including the critical approach Nadja is talking about, which I recommend, again, as a good reading).

I don't want to start a holy war anytime somebody mentions a DVCS that is not Git/GitHub, a format that is not pillar, a license that is not MIT (and hopefully each time we can focus on arguments instead of people). Last discussion on licensing made clear for me why MIT (I had chosen it, but in non image environments my license choice was different, and I did want to understand the reasons behind).

So we can have a small community, with the constrains of it, and still encouraging a diverse ecosystem, choices and backgrounds. I can understand that community can't support everything, but having a broader view of alternatives and reasons behind is healthy in my opinion.

Cheers,

Offray

No , no and no

My fault if I did not make this clear so let me make this crystal 

Under no circumstance choose GitLab over Github unless the following conditions apply

1) You want unlimited amount of free private repos

2) You want a 10GB repo

3) You want a 1GB webpage

4) You want to deploy at your own server a github like repo hub

Open source projects use public repos and for those Github is the best choice. I was one of the first here to recommend pharo developers to move to git and github , that wont change any time soon. 

In case you are not aware of a private repo is a repo that you wont be able to clone, fork even view online. The only way to do the things you can with a public repo is to be given specific permition and Gitlab offers a huge array of permissions that are about cloning, forking, viewing, creating new issues, merges , pull requests etc. 

Open source projects would make little to no sense to use a private repo, hence Github remains the best choice mainly because of visibility and exposure. 

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 5:31 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

Anything that encourages diversity should be encouraged too. Of course there is a balance to be found between diversity and fragmentation and we're a small community, but even trying different Git front ends without going to the same (monopolistic?) provider is healthy.

For a critical perspective on GitHub and how it affects "open source" I recommend:

https://medium.com/@nayafia/we-re-in-a-brave-new-post-open-source-world-56ef46d152a3#.8owyyk8dk

(there are a lot of good comments via hypothes.is )

Cheers,

Offray

On 20/10/16 08:39, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:

One big factor for me has been also repo size , because I make games and as you can imagine I need a lot of space.

Bit bucket has a limit of 2GB per repo while GitLab has a limit of 10GB, so for me GitLab is far better choice.

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 at 16:31, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

bitbucket offers infinite private repos too, if you do not want to install a server by your own.

Esteban

On 20 Oct 2016, at 14:47, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have been looking for an alternative to Github to host my private repos, Github provides only 1 private repo and for more you have to pay. So I found this.

https://gitlab.com/

Gitlab has all the features of Github with additional advantages that is completely free and you can have as many private repos as you want. Also in terms of space , its unlimited with a limit of 10 GB per repo which makes it an excellent choice for binary files. You can have unlimited repos (the hard limit is at 100.000 repos per user which you wont reach any time soon )

A recent advantage that I discovered is that like Github , Gitlab allows you to host your own website via Gitlab pages

https://pages.gitlab.io/

The cool thing about this is that it comes with CI , which is highly configurable which means you can even make it work with Pillar. The website part can mix with existing code, meaning you can keep on the same repo the code of your pharo projects and documentation in form of website. Gitlab pages support a wide variety of static website generators , the on the interests me is gitbook

https://www.gitbook.com/

Gitbook is interesting because it comes with its own Editor you can download as a native client that handles the writing of the book / documentation and pushing and committing to the repo

https://www.gitbook.com/editor

Both Gitlab and Gitbook are free software that means they can be installed in any Pharo server and customised to whatever you want

I made an example here.
https://gitlab.com/Kilon/testbook

The gitbook documentation is hosted in the pages branch which is a nice clean way to isolate documentation from project's code but also you could alternative have everything in master and put documentation in a doc folder. You can fine tune such setup with the corresponding yaml setup file as can see here

https://gitlab.com/Kilon/testbook/blob/pages/.gitlab-ci.yml

The website generated by this repo can be viewed here

https://kilon.gitlab.io/testbook/

obviously you can also add anything that is in HTML/JS which make this ideal for blog, main websites, application frontends and pretty much everything you can imagine and because GitLab allows for unlimited amount of repos you can have unlimited amount of websites.

Have fun :)