[Glass] Changes to terms of Free for Commercial Use license for 3.2 and beyond

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[Glass] Changes to terms of Free for Commercial Use license for 3.2 and beyond

Dale Henrichs-3
Hello all,

For the GemStone 3.2 release and beyond  we are considering tweaking the terms of the Free for Commercial Use license. For reference, the current terms are available here[1]. 

No changes will be made to the current terms of 2.x, 3.0.x, or 3.1.x Free for Commercial Use licenses. I repeat, no changes to license terms for 3.1.x and earlier!

Moving forward with 3.2 and beyond, we feel that the current license is too generous with respect to repository size and we also feel that the prices for upgrading the SPC size and/or purchasing technical support are too expensive. 

With regards to technical support we will continue to provided free technical support via this mailing list, but as you may have noticed in recent years I have not always been quick to respond to issues and that is probably not acceptable if you are trying to run a business:)

We are considering making changes to the SPC size and/or the maximum disk size, but before finalizing any changes we want to get feedback from the community. We are hoping to provide more balanced and affordable options across the board but achieving a balance will involve changing the terms of the Free for Commercial Use license.

We realize that many of you may be  affected by a reduction in the maximum repository size (currently unlimited) and/or reduction in the maximum  SPC size (currently 2Gb), so we plan to introduce one or more low cost license options that will allow you to continue to run your business using GLASS. We are thinking in terms of price points for annual subscriptions with and without technical support to fill in the gap in the current licenses between the Free For Commercial Use license and the $7k/core perpetual licence[1].

As it stands today we have no way to gauge the impact on you of any changes that we might make to the license, so before finalizing any plans we want to understand how you are currently utilizing the Free for Commercial Use license. We do not want to impact any of you, but we do feel that some tightening of the license terms moving forward is called for.

We would like you to answer the following questions as best you can and send your answers to [hidden email]. [hidden email] is a private mail alias that we have set up so that  the information you share with us will be kept in complete confidence. Norm Green and I will also use this mail alias for any follow-on questions we might have for you.

  1. Number of repositories in production.
  2. Number of repositories in development.
  3. Number of GemStone developers.
  4. SPC size per repository (production/development).
  5. Max size per repository in GB and OOPs (production/development).
  6. Number and types of gems  used in production (i.e., seaside 
      servers,service gems, maintenance gems).
  7. Any thoughts comments that you may have in terms of desirable 
      products and/or pricing options from your perspective.

If you have any concerns, please contact us via the [hidden email] mail address. 

Also feel free to ask any general questions about this process on this mailing list ([hidden email]). 

We hope to start finalizing the changes to the license terms during the week of March 10th, so please get your feedback to us before that date.

We do not intend to disrupt anyone's business moving forward and the best way to ensure that is for you to provide us with feedback.

Thanks,

Dale

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Re: [Glass] Changes to terms of Free for Commercial Use license for 3.2 and beyond

FrankB
Hello,

two questions:

1) Is there any new licensing scheme published?

2) Is there any GLASS in a VM ready-to-run available for download?
Either SuSe Linux or Win7, if possible.

I would like to avoid going through the hassle of having to assemble and install all components, which normally in the Smalltalk world can cause quite some headaches.

Regards
FrankB
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Re: [Glass] Changes to terms of Free for Commercial Use license for 3.2 and beyond

SebastianHC
Hi Frank,

honestly,... to it your way. it is indeed much more hassle to use the
VM, in my opinion...
Just install a virgin Ubuntu VM somehwere and got to this site:
http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/downloads.html

download the installGemstone.sh and execute as non-root user:
chmod +x installGemstone.sh (not even sure if this is in fact still needed)
./installGemstone.sh 3.1.0.5

then:
source /opt/gemstone/product/seaside/defSeaside
startnet
startGemstone

done! you are good to go.

If you stil lwant to just try the preconfigured vm,.... you can find it
here:

  http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/jade/

But I have no idea how up-to-date it is.


Sebastian




Am 25.04.2014 08:27, schrieb FrankB:

> Hello,
>
> two questions:
>
> 1) Is there any new licensing scheme published?
>
> 2) Is there any GLASS in a VM ready-to-run available for download?
> Either SuSe Linux or Win7, if possible.
>
> I would like to avoid going through the hassle of having to assemble and
> install all components, which normally in the Smalltalk world can cause
> quite some headaches.
>
> Regards
> FrankB
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Glass-Changes-to-terms-of-Free-for-Commercial-Use-license-for-3-2-and-beyond-tp4746053p4756515.html
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Re: [Glass] Changes to terms of Free for Commercial Use license for 3.2 and beyond

James Foster-9
On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Sebastian Heidbrink <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If you stil lwant to just try the preconfigured vm,.... you can find it here:
>
> http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/jade/
>
> But I have no idea how up-to-date it is.

Not only does the link gives no information about the version, but I don’t remember much except that it was “current” as of January 2013. Note that it includes the MC-enabled repository, but does not have any Seaside loaded and does not have Apache either. It basically has Ubuntu and GemStone/S 64 Bit.

James

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