[Glass] Ubuntu 14.04 ethernet static ip and GemTools login

Dario, 

I did not read the full email.... but If you allow me a quick recommendation (maybe offtopic here), I would not use remote GemTools. It is really too slow and becomes unusable. It is far easier and faster to use SSH with X forward and run GemTools locally in your server. So in GemTools you simply put localhost etc... and then do ssh -X etc..

And you can even improve performance of SSH with X by doing:

alias ssh-x='ssh -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -XC'

then ssh-x myserver...

Best, 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Dale Henrichs via Glass <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dario,

I'll have to wait for Martin to chime in with what he thinks may be going on now ...

but, I'm inclined to take a different tack to address your GemTools remote login problem.

You have ssh installed and you can log into the remote machine using ssh, so you should be able to setup ssh port forwarding for GemTools.

I've done a writeup on this as part of the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0[1].

In a nutshell you do the following (after setting up the static ip address):

ssh scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858  -L 57860:localhost:57860
# cd to your gestionale directory                                        
. defStone.env                                                                    
$GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -a scandella -g -p 57860:57860 -P 57858 gestionale

The use localhost in your session description, :

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'localhost';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'localhost';

netLDI: '57858';

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md

On 3/25/15 3:07 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale,

 

Dario,

Replace the line:

  $GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

with a direct call to the startnetldi as described in my last email:

  $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                              $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${stoneName}_ldi.log \
                                              ${stoneName}_ldi

BUUUUUUT,

OK i do this test, i report what i do:

before we get to the point where we are trying to debug the startNetldi script, let's verify that you can start a netldi that works with your remote GemTools. So:

  1. login in as the user that is running your stone processes

I login as  scandella

  2. cd $GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/<stone-name>

i go to my  gestionale  stone   directory

  3. execute the following bash script:
      .  defStone.env

i do the command:     . defStone.env ( with a blank after the. )

  4. then manually start the netldi:
      $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                                  $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi.log \
                                                   ${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi

i do the command :

    $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a scandella -A192.168.1.10 -l $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/gestionale_ldi.log \gestionale_ldi 

It Report: 

GemStone version '3.1.0.6'

startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gestionale_ldi'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/product'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '#dir:$GEMSTONE_LOGDIR#log:%N%P.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/logs/gestionale_ldi.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gestionale_ldi' has been started, process 4336 .

Now the scandella@scandella:~$ netstat -ltpn

command report :

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

 non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale        Indirizzo remoto       Stato       PID/Program name

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::25                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:57858         :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 ::1:57858               :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 192.168.1.10:57858      :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:54660         :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 ::1:54660               :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 :::57323                :::*                    LISTEN      4246/stoned  

  5. test your remote GemTools

I update the GemTools session:

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'scandella';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'scandella';

netLDI: '57858';

.............

...........

It don't work, when i do the GemTools login the system go into loop

 until i stoped the: gestionale_ldi 4336 process

Thanks,

Dario

When we get GemTools working with a manually started netldi, then you can try changing the startNetldi script.

Dale

On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Martin,

On 03/24/2015 01:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

What do you intend with:  did this fix it for you?

For now i don't resolve the problem.

OK, thanks. From your previous message I wasn't sure whether you were
still seeing the problem.

Considerations?

The netldi is only listening on the IPv6 localhost address. If you want
to use GemTools from another machine, it must also listen on the
192.168.1.10 address. I'm not sure why it isn't already listening on
that address, but you should be able to fix it by adding -A192.168.1.10
to your startnetldi command line (see the man page for startnetldi).

Once you've started netldi with that option, netstat -ltpn should show
netldi listening on that address.

First: my environment is based on tODE and i think to change the file  startNetldi

adding some parameter to the last line.

#! /bin/bash

#=========================================================================

# Copyright (c) 2014 GemTalk Systems, LLC <[hidden email]>.

#=========================================================================

usage() {

  cat <<HELP

USAGE: $(basename $0) [-h] <stone-name>

 Start the netldi process for the given stone.

OPTIONS

  -h display help

EXAMPLES

  $(basename $0) -h

  $(basename $0) kit

HELP

}

set -e # exit on error

if [ "${GS_HOME}x" = "x" ] ; then

  echo "the GS_HOME environment variable needs to be defined"; exit 1

fi

source ${GS_HOME}/bin/shFunctions

getOpts_help $@

if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then

  usage; exit 1

fi

stoneName=$1

echo "starting netldi $stoneName"

# set up stone environment

stonePath=$GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/$stoneName

pushd $stonePath >& /dev/null

source $stonePath/stone.env

popd >& /dev/null

$GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

But with this information when i do the command :   startNetlidi gestionale   i don't solve the problem.

The  netstat -ltpn    don't report  netldi listening on that address.

Second: in addition  the service are  started with Daemontools Gemstone service and  i don't know where i need add the -A parameter.

Anyone know informations about it ?

Thanks,

Dario

Regards,

-Martin

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote:

Mariano,

You have a point that ssh tunneling for X may be a better option ...

Dario, When we get the port forwarding option working, you can give X11 forwarding a go.

You'd need to install the X client on your server and I have another little writeup (that's part of the soon to be release gsDevKitHome 1.0.0) that details the X packages that need to be installed for X11 client [1], since you don't need the full blown X server for X11 forwarding.

That's very cool. You can add the alias I pasted above that really improves performance (it uses a special cipher and a few other things).

The other point besides installing X in the server, is installing all libs required by Pharo, which sometimes it's a bit complicated in Linuxes of 64 bits. 

 

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md#x11-client-optional

On 3/25/15 7:14 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

Dario, 

I did not read the full email.... but If you allow me a quick recommendation (maybe offtopic here), I would not use remote GemTools. It is really too slow and becomes unusable. It is far easier and faster to use SSH with X forward and run GemTools locally in your server. So in GemTools you simply put localhost etc... and then do ssh -X etc..

And you can even improve performance of SSH with X by doing:

alias ssh-x='ssh -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -XC'

then ssh-x myserver...

Best, 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Dale Henrichs via Glass <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dario,

I'll have to wait for Martin to chime in with what he thinks may be going on now ...

but, I'm inclined to take a different tack to address your GemTools remote login problem.

You have ssh installed and you can log into the remote machine using ssh, so you should be able to setup ssh port forwarding for GemTools.

I've done a writeup on this as part of the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0[1].

In a nutshell you do the following (after setting up the static ip address):

ssh scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858  -L 57860:localhost:57860
# cd to your gestionale directory                                        
. defStone.env                                                                    
$GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -a scandella -g -p 57860:57860 -P 57858 gestionale

The use localhost in your session description, :

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'localhost';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'localhost';

netLDI: '57858';

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md

On 3/25/15 3:07 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale,

 

Dario,

Replace the line:

  $GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

with a direct call to the startnetldi as described in my last email:

  $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                              $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${stoneName}_ldi.log \
                                              ${stoneName}_ldi

BUUUUUUT,

OK i do this test, i report what i do:

before we get to the point where we are trying to debug the startNetldi script, let's verify that you can start a netldi that works with your remote GemTools. So:

  1. login in as the user that is running your stone processes

I login as  scandella

  2. cd $GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/<stone-name>

i go to my  gestionale  stone   directory

  3. execute the following bash script:
      .  defStone.env

i do the command:     . defStone.env ( with a blank after the. )

  4. then manually start the netldi:
      $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                                  $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi.log \
                                                   ${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi

i do the command :

    $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a scandella -A192.168.1.10 -l $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/gestionale_ldi.log \gestionale_ldi 

It Report: 

GemStone version '3.1.0.6'

startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gestionale_ldi'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/product'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '#dir:$GEMSTONE_LOGDIR#log:%N%P.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/logs/gestionale_ldi.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gestionale_ldi' has been started, process 4336 .

Now the scandella@scandella:~$ netstat -ltpn

command report :

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

 non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale        Indirizzo remoto       Stato       PID/Program name

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::25                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:57858         :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 ::1:57858               :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 192.168.1.10:57858      :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:54660         :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 ::1:54660               :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 :::57323                :::*                    LISTEN      4246/stoned  

  5. test your remote GemTools

I update the GemTools session:

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'scandella';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'scandella';

netLDI: '57858';

.............

...........

It don't work, when i do the GemTools login the system go into loop

 until i stoped the: gestionale_ldi 4336 process

Thanks,

Dario

When we get GemTools working with a manually started netldi, then you can try changing the startNetldi script.

Dale

On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Martin,

On 03/24/2015 01:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

What do you intend with:  did this fix it for you?

For now i don't resolve the problem.

OK, thanks. From your previous message I wasn't sure whether you were
still seeing the problem.

Considerations?

The netldi is only listening on the IPv6 localhost address. If you want
to use GemTools from another machine, it must also listen on the
192.168.1.10 address. I'm not sure why it isn't already listening on
that address, but you should be able to fix it by adding -A192.168.1.10
to your startnetldi command line (see the man page for startnetldi).

Once you've started netldi with that option, netstat -ltpn should show
netldi listening on that address.

First: my environment is based on tODE and i think to change the file  startNetldi

adding some parameter to the last line.

#! /bin/bash

#=========================================================================

# Copyright (c) 2014 GemTalk Systems, LLC <[hidden email]>.

#=========================================================================

usage() {

  cat <<HELP

USAGE: $(basename $0) [-h] <stone-name>

 Start the netldi process for the given stone.

OPTIONS

  -h display help

EXAMPLES

  $(basename $0) -h

  $(basename $0) kit

HELP

}

set -e # exit on error

if [ "${GS_HOME}x" = "x" ] ; then

  echo "the GS_HOME environment variable needs to be defined"; exit 1

fi

source ${GS_HOME}/bin/shFunctions

getOpts_help $@

if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then

  usage; exit 1

fi

stoneName=$1

echo "starting netldi $stoneName"

# set up stone environment

stonePath=$GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/$stoneName

pushd $stonePath >& /dev/null

source $stonePath/stone.env

popd >& /dev/null

$GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

But with this information when i do the command :   startNetlidi gestionale   i don't solve the problem.

The  netstat -ltpn    don't report  netldi listening on that address.

Second: in addition  the service are  started with Daemontools Gemstone service and  i don't know where i need add the -A parameter.

Anyone know informations about it ?

Thanks,

Dario

Regards,

-Martin

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(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale Indirizzo remoto Stato PID/Program name

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN -

tcp6 0 0 :::55127 :::* LISTEN 1948/stoned

tcp6 0 0 :::25 :::* LISTEN -

tcp6 0 0 :::57858 :::* LISTEN 2224/netldid

tcp6 0 0 127.0.0.1:54786 :::* LISTEN 1950/shrpcmonitor

tcp6 0 0 ::1:54786 :::* LISTEN 1950/shrpcmonitor

Dale, Martin,

Dario,

I'll have to wait for Martin to chime in with what he thinks may be going on now ...

but, I'm inclined to take a different tack to address your GemTools remote login problem.

You have ssh installed and you can log into the remote machine using ssh, so you should be able to setup ssh port forwarding for GemTools.

OK i follow this different tack.

I've done a writeup on this as part of the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0[1].

In a nutshell you do the following (after setting up the static ip address):

I submit this:

ssh scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858  -L 57860:localhost:57860

i go into my  gestionale directory

# cd to your gestionale directory   

I submit this:

                                     
. defStone.env  

and submit this adding _ldi at the end.

                                                                       
$GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -a scandella -g -p 57860:57860 -P 57858 gestionale_ldi

The use localhost in your session description, :

I update the GemTools session and the login work fine.

OK.

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'localhost';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'localhost';

netLDI: '57858';

For understund:

The netstat -ltpn report:

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale Indirizzo remoto Stato PID/Program name

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -

tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN -

tcp6 0 0 :::55127 :::* LISTEN 1948/stoned

tcp6 0 0 :::25 :::* LISTEN -

tcp6 0 0 :::57858 :::* LISTEN 2224/netldid

tcp6 0 0 127.0.0.1:54786 :::* LISTEN 1950/shrpcmonitor

tcp6 0 0 ::1:54786 :::* LISTEN 1950/shrpcmonitor

After close the ssh connection i test the login with GemTools classic session :

OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'scandella';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'scandella';

netLDI: '57858';

It don't works the GemTools go into loop.

But the server show  netldi listening on that address  and 57858 port.

as i report in hold email with not static ip ( where netldi is into 50377 )

Dale, Martin,

i restart the system with  /etc/network/interfaces file  set to:

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system

# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface

auto lo

iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface

auto p2p1

iface p2p1 inet dhcp

Now the  scandella@scandella:~$ netstat -ltpn

command report:

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

 non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale        Indirizzo remoto       Stato       PID/Program name

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9060            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      830/topaz       

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9061            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      838/topaz       

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9062            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      833/topaz       

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9063            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      835/topaz       

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9064            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      832/topaz       

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9065            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      834/topaz       

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::25                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::50377                :::*                    LISTEN      1479/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 :::52490                :::*                    LISTEN      1438/stoned     

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:34671         :::*                    LISTEN      1440/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 ::1:34671               :::*                    LISTEN      1440/shrpcmonitor

The GemTools open on 50377  works fine.

It's not very strange?

Thanks,

Dario

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md

On 3/25/15 3:07 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale,

 

Dario,

Replace the line:

  $GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

with a direct call to the startnetldi as described in my last email:

  $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                              $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${stoneName}_ldi.log \
                                              ${stoneName}_ldi

BUUUUUUT,

OK i do this test, i report what i do:

before we get to the point where we are trying to debug the startNetldi script, let's verify that you can start a netldi that works with your remote GemTools. So:

  1. login in as the user that is running your stone processes

I login as  scandella

  2. cd $GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/<stone-name>

i go to my  gestionale  stone   directory

  3. execute the following bash script:
      .  defStone.env

i do the command:     . defStone.env ( with a blank after the. )

  4. then manually start the netldi:
      $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                                  $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi.log \
                                                   ${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi

i do the command :

    $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a scandella -A192.168.1.10 -l $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/gestionale_ldi.log \gestionale_ldi 

It Report: 

GemStone version '3.1.0.6'

startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gestionale_ldi'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/product'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '#dir:$GEMSTONE_LOGDIR#log:%N%P.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/logs/gestionale_ldi.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gestionale_ldi' has been started, process 4336 .

Now the scandella@scandella:~$ netstat -ltpn

command report :

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

 non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale        Indirizzo remoto       Stato       PID/Program name

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::25                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:57858         :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 ::1:57858               :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 192.168.1.10:57858      :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:54660         :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 ::1:54660               :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 :::57323                :::*                    LISTEN      4246/stoned  

  5. test your remote GemTools

I update the GemTools session:

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'scandella';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'scandella';

netLDI: '57858';

.............

...........

It don't work, when i do the GemTools login the system go into loop

 until i stoped the: gestionale_ldi 4336 process

Thanks,

Dario

When we get GemTools working with a manually started netldi, then you can try changing the startNetldi script.

Dale

On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Martin,

On 03/24/2015 01:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

What do you intend with:  did this fix it for you?

For now i don't resolve the problem.

OK, thanks. From your previous message I wasn't sure whether you were
still seeing the problem.

Considerations?

The netldi is only listening on the IPv6 localhost address. If you want
to use GemTools from another machine, it must also listen on the
192.168.1.10 address. I'm not sure why it isn't already listening on
that address, but you should be able to fix it by adding -A192.168.1.10
to your startnetldi command line (see the man page for startnetldi).

Once you've started netldi with that option, netstat -ltpn should show
netldi listening on that address.

First: my environment is based on tODE and i think to change the file  startNetldi

adding some parameter to the last line.

#! /bin/bash

#=========================================================================

# Copyright (c) 2014 GemTalk Systems, LLC <[hidden email]>.

#=========================================================================

usage() {

  cat <<HELP

USAGE: $(basename $0) [-h] <stone-name>

 Start the netldi process for the given stone.

OPTIONS

  -h display help

EXAMPLES

  $(basename $0) -h

  $(basename $0) kit

HELP

}

set -e # exit on error

if [ "${GS_HOME}x" = "x" ] ; then

  echo "the GS_HOME environment variable needs to be defined"; exit 1

fi

source ${GS_HOME}/bin/shFunctions

getOpts_help $@

if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then

  usage; exit 1

fi

stoneName=$1

echo "starting netldi $stoneName"

# set up stone environment

stonePath=$GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/$stoneName

pushd $stonePath >& /dev/null

source $stonePath/stone.env

popd >& /dev/null

$GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

But with this information when i do the command :   startNetlidi gestionale   i don't solve the problem.

The  netstat -ltpn    don't report  netldi listening on that address.

Second: in addition  the service are  started with Daemontools Gemstone service and  i don't know where i need add the -A parameter.

Anyone know informations about it ?

Thanks,

Dario

Regards,

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Dale, Mariano,

for now my server tODE environment is installed into my office and i don't have performance problem with GemTools.

But the next week the server will installed on remote office of my client and i'm interested to work on it from my home office on WAN.

But i don't have clear that i need to install on the server.

The server is based on Ubuntu 14.04 server  and for now i installed:

sudo apt-get -y install git

sudo apt-get -y install unzip

sudo apt-get -y install curl

sudo apt-get -y install libpam0g:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libssl1.0.0:386

sudo apt-get -y install libssl1.0.0:i386

sudo apt-get -y install -qq gcc-multilib libstdc++6:i386

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-lin-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so

sudo apt-get -y install libx11-6:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libxcb-dri2-0:i386

What other i need to load ? 

What i need to load for GemTools on the server ( and relative prerequisite ) ?

After installed all, how i can test the GemTools load on the server with X11 forwarding ?

Into another e-mail Dale write: 

Things are a bit snappier if I use port forwarding, but the advantage of XLL forwarding is that you don't have to install GemTools on the remote system...

But relative performance are good?

What is the best solutions, i'm confusing?

Thanks for any help, considerations.

Dario

Mariano,

You have a point that ssh tunneling for X may be a better option ...

Dario, When we get the port forwarding option working, you can give X11 forwarding a go.

You'd need to install the X client on your server and I have another little writeup (that's part of the soon to be release gsDevKitHome 1.0.0) that details the X packages that need to be installed for X11 client [1], since you don't need the full blown X server for X11 forwarding.

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md#x11-client-optional

On 3/25/15 7:14 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

Dario, 

I did not read the full email.... but If you allow me a quick recommendation (maybe offtopic here), I would not use remote GemTools. It is really too slow and becomes unusable. It is far easier and faster to use SSH with X forward and run GemTools locally in your server. So in GemTools you simply put localhost etc... and then do ssh -X etc..

And you can even improve performance of SSH with X by doing:

alias ssh-x='ssh -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -XC'

then ssh-x myserver...

Best, 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Dale Henrichs via Glass <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dario,

I'll have to wait for Martin to chime in with what he thinks may be going on now ...

but, I'm inclined to take a different tack to address your GemTools remote login problem.

You have ssh installed and you can log into the remote machine using ssh, so you should be able to setup ssh port forwarding for GemTools.

I've done a writeup on this as part of the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0[1].

In a nutshell you do the following (after setting up the static ip address):

ssh scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858  -L 57860:localhost:57860
# cd to your gestionale directory                                        
. defStone.env                                                                    
$GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -a scandella -g -p 57860:57860 -P 57858 gestionale

The use localhost in your session description, :

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'localhost';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'localhost';

netLDI: '57858';

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md

On 3/25/15 3:07 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale,

 

Dario,

Replace the line:

  $GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

with a direct call to the startnetldi as described in my last email:

  $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                              $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${stoneName}_ldi.log \
                                              ${stoneName}_ldi

BUUUUUUT,

OK i do this test, i report what i do:

before we get to the point where we are trying to debug the startNetldi script, let's verify that you can start a netldi that works with your remote GemTools. So:

  1. login in as the user that is running your stone processes

I login as  scandella

  2. cd $GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/<stone-name>

i go to my  gestionale  stone   directory

  3. execute the following bash script:
      .  defStone.env

i do the command:     . defStone.env ( with a blank after the. )

  4. then manually start the netldi:
      $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                                  $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi.log \
                                                   ${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi

i do the command :

    $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a scandella -A192.168.1.10 -l $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/gestionale_ldi.log \gestionale_ldi 

It Report: 

GemStone version '3.1.0.6'

startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gestionale_ldi'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/product'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '#dir:$GEMSTONE_LOGDIR#log:%N%P.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/logs/gestionale_ldi.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gestionale_ldi' has been started, process 4336 .

Now the scandella@scandella:~$ netstat -ltpn

command report :

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

 non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale        Indirizzo remoto       Stato       PID/Program name

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::25                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:57858         :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 ::1:57858               :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 192.168.1.10:57858      :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:54660         :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 ::1:54660               :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 :::57323                :::*                    LISTEN      4246/stoned  

  5. test your remote GemTools

I update the GemTools session:

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'scandella';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'scandella';

netLDI: '57858';

.............

...........

It don't work, when i do the GemTools login the system go into loop

 until i stoped the: gestionale_ldi 4336 process

Thanks,

Dario

When we get GemTools working with a manually started netldi, then you can try changing the startNetldi script.

Dale

On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Martin,

On 03/24/2015 01:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

What do you intend with:  did this fix it for you?

For now i don't resolve the problem.

OK, thanks. From your previous message I wasn't sure whether you were
still seeing the problem.

Considerations?

The netldi is only listening on the IPv6 localhost address. If you want
to use GemTools from another machine, it must also listen on the
192.168.1.10 address. I'm not sure why it isn't already listening on
that address, but you should be able to fix it by adding -A192.168.1.10
to your startnetldi command line (see the man page for startnetldi).

Once you've started netldi with that option, netstat -ltpn should show
netldi listening on that address.

First: my environment is based on tODE and i think to change the file  startNetldi

adding some parameter to the last line.

#! /bin/bash

#=========================================================================

# Copyright (c) 2014 GemTalk Systems, LLC <[hidden email]>.

#=========================================================================

usage() {

  cat <<HELP

USAGE: $(basename $0) [-h] <stone-name>

 Start the netldi process for the given stone.

OPTIONS

  -h display help

EXAMPLES

  $(basename $0) -h

  $(basename $0) kit

HELP

}

set -e # exit on error

if [ "${GS_HOME}x" = "x" ] ; then

  echo "the GS_HOME environment variable needs to be defined"; exit 1

fi

source ${GS_HOME}/bin/shFunctions

getOpts_help $@

if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then

  usage; exit 1

fi

stoneName=$1

echo "starting netldi $stoneName"

# set up stone environment

stonePath=$GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/$stoneName

pushd $stonePath >& /dev/null

source $stonePath/stone.env

popd >& /dev/null

$GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

But with this information when i do the command :   startNetlidi gestionale   i don't solve the problem.

The  netstat -ltpn    don't report  netldi listening on that address.

Second: in addition  the service are  started with Daemontools Gemstone service and  i don't know where i need add the -A parameter.

Anyone know informations about it ?

Thanks,

Dario

Regards,

-Martin

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bind: Address already in use

channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 57858

bind: Address already in use

channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 57860

Could not request local forwarding.

Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64)

Dale,

Dario,

Good questions.

As part of my work for the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0, I have taken a pretty close look at the prerequisites[2] and I've got a detailed list of the prerequisites for Ubuntu14.04[2]. I think I've added a couple of prereqs since you've done an install ... mainly in the areas of support for ptrace (C stack straces) and freetype fonts for pharo.  Check you list against the required prereqs[5].

I don't verify the prerequisite for now.

It looks like you have the X11 Client already installed on the server, so you will need to install GemTools on the server. You should just be able to scp the GemTools zip file over to the server and go ...

I open ssh session with:

ssh -X scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858 -L 57860:localhost:57860

And submit:

export GS_HOME=/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome

export PATH=$GS_HOME/bin:$PATH

$GS_HOME/bin/todeClient

It work fine and i can submit tODE command on: gestionale    environment

After i download  and unzip:  http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/squeak/GemTools-1.0-beta.8.7-310x.zip  

When i  submit:

[hidden email] ./GemTools-1.0-beta.8.7-3101x.sh

the system answer:

could not find module vm-display-X11 Annullato (core dump creato)

Any idea about it? 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Another questions about macBook GemTools problem.

after reboot the server Ubuntu system now when i open a ssh on my macBook with:

meetingto:~ dtr$ ssh  scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858 -L 57860:localhost:5786

the system answer:

bind: Address already in use

channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 57858

bind: Address already in use

channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 57860

Could not request local forwarding.

Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64)

A this point when i open the GemTools on my macBook and open the session the system answer:

Error: Unable to create a GemStone session.

NetLDI service '57858' not found on node 'localhost' port 57858 :

 For further information about login failures, check the gem log file

I don't understund because 57858 i already in use after reboot the system.

Before use the ssh -X ..................  all worked well,  at the login the 57858 is free  and GemTools session work fine.

Any considerations?

Thanks,

Dario

For the best performance using GemTools, I think that X11 forwarding[3] (instructions included) is probably the best option. In my limited experience using X11 forwarding (with compression) with tODE, the update delays are not nearly as annoying as the pretty long round trip induced delays seen when using GemTools over the WAN.

On the other hand, I think that SSH port forwarding[4] is the best option for tODE. tODE does a pretty good job of limiting the number of round trips so having snappier window updates is appreciated.

Does that clarify things for you?

Dale 

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/osPrereqs.md
[2] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md
[3] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/x11ForwardingForRemoteDisplays.md
[4] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md
[5] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md#install-basic-prerequisites-required

On 03/26/2015 05:11 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Mariano,

for now my server tODE environment is installed into my office and i don't have performance problem with GemTools.

But the next week the server will installed on remote office of my client and i'm interested to work on it from my home office on WAN.

But i don't have clear that i need to install on the server.

The server is based on Ubuntu 14.04 server  and for now i installed:

sudo apt-get -y install git

sudo apt-get -y install unzip

sudo apt-get -y install curl

sudo apt-get -y install libpam0g:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libssl1.0.0:386

sudo apt-get -y install libssl1.0.0:i386

sudo apt-get -y install -qq gcc-multilib libstdc++6:i386

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-lin-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so

sudo apt-get -y install libx11-6:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libxcb-dri2-0:i386

What other i need to load ? 

What i need to load for GemTools on the server ( and relative prerequisite ) ?

After installed all, how i can test the GemTools load on the server with X11 forwarding ?

Into another e-mail Dale write: 

Things are a bit snappier if I use port forwarding, but the advantage of XLL forwarding is that you don't have to install GemTools on the remote system...

But relative performance are good?

What is the best solutions, i'm confusing?

Thanks for any help, considerations.

Dario

Mariano,

You have a point that ssh tunneling for X may be a better option ...

Dario, When we get the port forwarding option working, you can give X11 forwarding a go.

You'd need to install the X client on your server and I have another little writeup (that's part of the soon to be release gsDevKitHome 1.0.0) that details the X packages that need to be installed for X11 client [1], since you don't need the full blown X server for X11 forwarding.

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md#x11-client-optional

On 3/25/15 7:14 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

Dario, 

I did not read the full email.... but If you allow me a quick recommendation (maybe offtopic here), I would not use remote GemTools. It is really too slow and becomes unusable. It is far easier and faster to use SSH with X forward and run GemTools locally in your server. So in GemTools you simply put localhost etc... and then do ssh -X etc..

And you can even improve performance of SSH with X by doing:

alias ssh-x='ssh -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -XC'

then ssh-x myserver...

Best, 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Dale Henrichs via Glass <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dario,

I'll have to wait for Martin to chime in with what he thinks may be going on now ...

but, I'm inclined to take a different tack to address your GemTools remote login problem.

You have ssh installed and you can log into the remote machine using ssh, so you should be able to setup ssh port forwarding for GemTools.

I've done a writeup on this as part of the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0[1].

In a nutshell you do the following (after setting up the static ip address):

ssh scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858  -L 57860:localhost:57860
# cd to your gestionale directory                                        
. defStone.env                                                                    
$GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -a scandella -g -p 57860:57860 -P 57858 gestionale

The use localhost in your session description, :

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'localhost';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'localhost';

netLDI: '57858';

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md

On 3/25/15 3:07 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale,

 

Dario,

Replace the line:

  $GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

with a direct call to the startnetldi as described in my last email:

  $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                              $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${stoneName}_ldi.log \
                                              ${stoneName}_ldi

BUUUUUUT,

OK i do this test, i report what i do:

before we get to the point where we are trying to debug the startNetldi script, let's verify that you can start a netldi that works with your remote GemTools. So:

  1. login in as the user that is running your stone processes

I login as  scandella

  2. cd $GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/<stone-name>

i go to my  gestionale  stone   directory

  3. execute the following bash script:
      .  defStone.env

i do the command:     . defStone.env ( with a blank after the. )

  4. then manually start the netldi:
      $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                                  $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi.log \
                                                   ${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi

i do the command :

    $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a scandella -A192.168.1.10 -l $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/gestionale_ldi.log \gestionale_ldi 

It Report: 

GemStone version '3.1.0.6'

startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gestionale_ldi'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/product'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '#dir:$GEMSTONE_LOGDIR#log:%N%P.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/logs/gestionale_ldi.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gestionale_ldi' has been started, process 4336 .

Now the scandella@scandella:~$ netstat -ltpn

command report :

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

 non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale        Indirizzo remoto       Stato       PID/Program name

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::25                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:57858         :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 ::1:57858               :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 192.168.1.10:57858      :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:54660         :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 ::1:54660               :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 :::57323                :::*                    LISTEN      4246/stoned  

  5. test your remote GemTools

I update the GemTools session:

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'scandella';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'scandella';

netLDI: '57858';

.............

...........

It don't work, when i do the GemTools login the system go into loop

 until i stoped the: gestionale_ldi 4336 process

Thanks,

Dario

When we get GemTools working with a manually started netldi, then you can try changing the startNetldi script.

Dale

On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Martin,

On 03/24/2015 01:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

What do you intend with:  did this fix it for you?

For now i don't resolve the problem.

OK, thanks. From your previous message I wasn't sure whether you were
still seeing the problem.

Considerations?

The netldi is only listening on the IPv6 localhost address. If you want
to use GemTools from another machine, it must also listen on the
192.168.1.10 address. I'm not sure why it isn't already listening on
that address, but you should be able to fix it by adding -A192.168.1.10
to your startnetldi command line (see the man page for startnetldi).

Once you've started netldi with that option, netstat -ltpn should show
netldi listening on that address.

First: my environment is based on tODE and i think to change the file  startNetldi

adding some parameter to the last line.

#! /bin/bash

#=========================================================================

# Copyright (c) 2014 GemTalk Systems, LLC <[hidden email]>.

#=========================================================================

usage() {

  cat <<HELP

USAGE: $(basename $0) [-h] <stone-name>

 Start the netldi process for the given stone.

OPTIONS

  -h display help

EXAMPLES

  $(basename $0) -h

  $(basename $0) kit

HELP

}

set -e # exit on error

if [ "${GS_HOME}x" = "x" ] ; then

  echo "the GS_HOME environment variable needs to be defined"; exit 1

fi

source ${GS_HOME}/bin/shFunctions

getOpts_help $@

if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then

  usage; exit 1

fi

stoneName=$1

echo "starting netldi $stoneName"

# set up stone environment

stonePath=$GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/$stoneName

pushd $stonePath >& /dev/null

source $stonePath/stone.env

popd >& /dev/null

$GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

But with this information when i do the command :   startNetlidi gestionale   i don't solve the problem.

The  netstat -ltpn    don't report  netldi listening on that address.

Second: in addition  the service are  started with Daemontools Gemstone service and  i don't know where i need add the -A parameter.

Anyone know informations about it ?

Thanks,

Dario

Regards,

-Martin

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Dale,

Dario,

Not sure right now ... Pharo1.1 must have a different set of prerequisites ... it will take a bit of time for me to figure that out, I suppose you could try running GemTools over the lan using the ssh port forwarding until I figure out the missing prerequisites ...

No after reboot the Ubuntu system server,  the GemTools  on macBook don't work,

 because when i open the ssh session with :

meetingto:~ dtr$ ssh  scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858 -L 57860:localhost:5786

the 57858 i already in use.

See the point:

----------------------------------------------

Another questions about macBook GemTools problem.

Thanks,

Dario

Dale

On 03/27/2015 09:24 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale,

Dario,

Good questions.

As part of my work for the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0, I have taken a pretty close look at the prerequisites[2] and I've got a detailed list of the prerequisites for Ubuntu14.04[2]. I think I've added a couple of prereqs since you've done an install ... mainly in the areas of support for ptrace (C stack straces) and freetype fonts for pharo.  Check you list against the required prereqs[5].

I don't verify the prerequisite for now.

It looks like you have the X11 Client already installed on the server, so you will need to install GemTools on the server. You should just be able to scp the GemTools zip file over to the server and go ...

I open ssh session with:

ssh -X scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858 -L 57860:localhost:57860

And submit:

export GS_HOME=/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome

export PATH=$GS_HOME/bin:$PATH

$GS_HOME/bin/todeClient

It work fine and i can submit tODE command on: gestionale    environment

After i download  and unzip:  http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/squeak/GemTools-1.0-beta.8.7-310x.zip  

When i  submit:

[hidden email] ./GemTools-1.0-beta.8.7-3101x.sh

the system answer:

could not find module vm-display-X11 Annullato (core dump creato)

Any idea about it? 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Another questions about macBook GemTools problem.

after reboot the server Ubuntu system now when i open a ssh on my macBook with:

meetingto:~ dtr$ ssh  scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858 -L 57860:localhost:5786

the system answer:

bind: Address already in use

channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 57858

bind: Address already in use

channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 57860

Could not request local forwarding.

Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64)

A this point when i open the GemTools on my macBook and open the session the system answer:

Error: Unable to create a GemStone session.

NetLDI service '57858' not found on node 'localhost' port 57858 :

 For further information about login failures, check the gem log file

I don't understund because 57858 i already in use after reboot the system.

Before use the ssh -X ..................  all worked well,  at the login the 57858 is free  and GemTools session work fine.

Any considerations?

Thanks,

Dario

For the best performance using GemTools, I think that X11 forwarding[3] (instructions included) is probably the best option. In my limited experience using X11 forwarding (with compression) with tODE, the update delays are not nearly as annoying as the pretty long round trip induced delays seen when using GemTools over the WAN.

On the other hand, I think that SSH port forwarding[4] is the best option for tODE. tODE does a pretty good job of limiting the number of round trips so having snappier window updates is appreciated.

Does that clarify things for you?

Dale 

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/osPrereqs.md
[2] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md
[3] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/x11ForwardingForRemoteDisplays.md
[4] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md
[5] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md#install-basic-prerequisites-required

On 03/26/2015 05:11 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Mariano,

for now my server tODE environment is installed into my office and i don't have performance problem with GemTools.

But the next week the server will installed on remote office of my client and i'm interested to work on it from my home office on WAN.

But i don't have clear that i need to install on the server.

The server is based on Ubuntu 14.04 server  and for now i installed:

sudo apt-get -y install git

sudo apt-get -y install unzip

sudo apt-get -y install curl

sudo apt-get -y install libpam0g:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libssl1.0.0:386

sudo apt-get -y install libssl1.0.0:i386

sudo apt-get -y install -qq gcc-multilib libstdc++6:i386

sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-lin-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so

sudo apt-get -y install libx11-6:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386

sudo apt-get -y install libxcb-dri2-0:i386

What other i need to load ? 

What i need to load for GemTools on the server ( and relative prerequisite ) ?

After installed all, how i can test the GemTools load on the server with X11 forwarding ?

Into another e-mail Dale write: 

Things are a bit snappier if I use port forwarding, but the advantage of XLL forwarding is that you don't have to install GemTools on the remote system...

But relative performance are good?

What is the best solutions, i'm confusing?

Thanks for any help, considerations.

Dario

Mariano,

You have a point that ssh tunneling for X may be a better option ...

Dario, When we get the port forwarding option working, you can give X11 forwarding a go.

You'd need to install the X client on your server and I have another little writeup (that's part of the soon to be release gsDevKitHome 1.0.0) that details the X packages that need to be installed for X11 client [1], since you don't need the full blown X server for X11 forwarding.

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/osPrereqs/ubuntu14.04.md#x11-client-optional

On 3/25/15 7:14 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

Dario, 

I did not read the full email.... but If you allow me a quick recommendation (maybe offtopic here), I would not use remote GemTools. It is really too slow and becomes unusable. It is far easier and faster to use SSH with X forward and run GemTools locally in your server. So in GemTools you simply put localhost etc... and then do ssh -X etc..

And you can even improve performance of SSH with X by doing:

alias ssh-x='ssh -c arcfour,blowfish-cbc -XC'

then ssh-x myserver...

Best, 

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Dale Henrichs via Glass <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dario,

I'll have to wait for Martin to chime in with what he thinks may be going on now ...

but, I'm inclined to take a different tack to address your GemTools remote login problem.

You have ssh installed and you can log into the remote machine using ssh, so you should be able to setup ssh port forwarding for GemTools.

I've done a writeup on this as part of the soon to be released gsDevKitHome 1.0.0[1].

In a nutshell you do the following (after setting up the static ip address):

ssh scandella -l scandella -L 57858:localhost:57858  -L 57860:localhost:57860
# cd to your gestionale directory                                        
. defStone.env                                                                    
$GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -a scandella -g -p 57860:57860 -P 57858 gestionale

The use localhost in your session description, :

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'localhost';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'localhost';

netLDI: '57858';

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/blob/dev/docs/portForwardingForRemoteLogins.md

On 3/25/15 3:07 AM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale,

 

Dario,

Replace the line:

  $GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

with a direct call to the startnetldi as described in my last email:

  $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                              $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${stoneName}_ldi.log \
                                              ${stoneName}_ldi

BUUUUUUT,

OK i do this test, i report what i do:

before we get to the point where we are trying to debug the startNetldi script, let's verify that you can start a netldi that works with your remote GemTools. So:

  1. login in as the user that is running your stone processes

I login as  scandella

  2. cd $GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/<stone-name>

i go to my  gestionale  stone   directory

  3. execute the following bash script:
      .  defStone.env

i do the command:     . defStone.env ( with a blank after the. )

  4. then manually start the netldi:
      $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a $USER -A192.168.1.10 -l \
                                                  $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi.log \
                                                   ${GEMSTONE_NAME}_ldi

i do the command :

    $GEMSTONE/bin/startnetldi -g -a scandella -A192.168.1.10 -l $GEMSTONE_LOGDIR/gestionale_ldi.log \gestionale_ldi 

It Report: 

GemStone version '3.1.0.6'

startnetldi[Info]: Starting GemStone network server 'gestionale_ldi'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE is: '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/product'.

startnetldi[Info]: GEMSTONE_NRS_ALL is: '#dir:$GEMSTONE_LOGDIR#log:%N%P.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: Log file is '/opt/oodb/gsDevKitHome/gemstone/stones/gestionale/logs/gestionale_ldi.log'.

startnetldi[Info]: GemStone server 'gestionale_ldi' has been started, process 4336 .

Now the scandella@scandella:~$ netstat -ltpn

command report :

(Non tutti i processi potrebbero essere identificati, le informazioni sui processi non propri

 non saranno mostrate, per visualizzarle tutte bisogna avere privilegi di root.)

Connessioni Internet attive (solo server)

Proto CodaRic CodaInv Indirizzo locale        Indirizzo remoto       Stato       PID/Program name

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 :::25                   :::*                    LISTEN      -               

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:57858         :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 ::1:57858               :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 192.168.1.10:57858      :::*                    LISTEN      4336/netldid    

tcp6       0      0 127.0.0.1:54660         :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 ::1:54660               :::*                    LISTEN      4248/shrpcmonitor

tcp6       0      0 :::57323                :::*                    LISTEN      4246/stoned  

  5. test your remote GemTools

I update the GemTools session:

  OGCustomSessionDescription new

name: 'Scandella3106 gestionale';

stoneHost: 'scandella';

stoneName: 'gestionale';

gemHost: 'scandella';

netLDI: '57858';

.............

...........

It don't work, when i do the GemTools login the system go into loop

 until i stoped the: gestionale_ldi 4336 process

Thanks,

Dario

When we get GemTools working with a manually started netldi, then you can try changing the startNetldi script.

Dale

On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

Dale, Martin,

On 03/24/2015 01:02 PM, Dario Trussardi via Glass wrote:

What do you intend with:  did this fix it for you?

For now i don't resolve the problem.

OK, thanks. From your previous message I wasn't sure whether you were
still seeing the problem.

Considerations?

The netldi is only listening on the IPv6 localhost address. If you want
to use GemTools from another machine, it must also listen on the
192.168.1.10 address. I'm not sure why it isn't already listening on
that address, but you should be able to fix it by adding -A192.168.1.10
to your startnetldi command line (see the man page for startnetldi).

Once you've started netldi with that option, netstat -ltpn should show
netldi listening on that address.

First: my environment is based on tODE and i think to change the file  startNetldi

adding some parameter to the last line.

#! /bin/bash

#=========================================================================

# Copyright (c) 2014 GemTalk Systems, LLC <[hidden email]>.

#=========================================================================

usage() {

  cat <<HELP

USAGE: $(basename $0) [-h] <stone-name>

 Start the netldi process for the given stone.

OPTIONS

  -h display help

EXAMPLES

  $(basename $0) -h

  $(basename $0) kit

HELP

}

set -e # exit on error

if [ "${GS_HOME}x" = "x" ] ; then

  echo "the GS_HOME environment variable needs to be defined"; exit 1

fi

source ${GS_HOME}/bin/shFunctions

getOpts_help $@

if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then

  usage; exit 1

fi

stoneName=$1

echo "starting netldi $stoneName"

# set up stone environment

stonePath=$GS_HOME/gemstone/stones/$stoneName

pushd $stonePath >& /dev/null

source $stonePath/stone.env

popd >& /dev/null

$GS_HOME/bin/tode startnetldi $stoneName -A192.168.1.10

But with this information when i do the command :   startNetlidi gestionale   i don't solve the problem.

The  netstat -ltpn    don't report  netldi listening on that address.

Second: in addition  the service are  started with Daemontools Gemstone service and  i don't know where i need add the -A parameter.

Anyone know informations about it ?

Thanks,

Dario

Regards,

-Martin

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