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Daniel P Zepeda

Good Work Guys!

All,

I just had to let you all know that I'm so very excited about the
Pharo project. I've been back and forth with Squeak for many years.
Like others, I love the language, but very much disliked the
interface. I knew I just couldn't foist the look-and-feel on my users
and get away with it. Seaside mitigated this somewhat, since they
wouldn't have to see the interface, but it was still sort of painful
to me. I hated being so shallow that the look and feel affected me so
much, but there it was.

I totally agree with you guys and your direction. My kids will still
use Squeak, but for me, it will be Pharo, different systems for
different goals. For me Pharo looks awesome, and while I've only
looked a little bit at Polymorph, it seems to be exactly what is
needed, a bunch of ready-made widgets to build UI's. I'll have no
problem with my users dealing with this interface. I can't wait for
the UI builder I've seen on Youtube. Finally, a truly cross-platform
development system for smalltalk for the mainstream developer!

This is probably too long already, but thank you for all of your hard
work!

DZ

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Stéphane Ducasse

Re: Good Work Guys!

Thanks Daniel.
Now we do not want to compete with Squeak. We did pharo because we had
to.
We hope that we will produce something good that people can use.
Feel free to contribute. There is always something to do (test,
reporting bugs, reporting that fixes
are working....).

Stef

> All,
>
> I just had to let you all know that I'm so very excited about the
> Pharo project. I've been back and forth with Squeak for many years.
> Like others, I love the language, but very much disliked the
> interface. I knew I just couldn't foist the look-and-feel on my users
> and get away with it. Seaside mitigated this somewhat, since they
> wouldn't have to see the interface, but it was still sort of painful
> to me. I hated being so shallow that the look and feel affected me so
> much, but there it was.
>
> I totally agree with you guys and your direction. My kids will still
> use Squeak, but for me, it will be Pharo, different systems for
> different goals. For me Pharo looks awesome, and while I've only
> looked a little bit at Polymorph, it seems to be exactly what is
> needed, a bunch of ready-made widgets to build UI's. I'll have no
> problem with my users dealing with this interface. I can't wait for
> the UI builder I've seen on Youtube. Finally, a truly cross-platform
> development system for smalltalk for the mainstream developer!
>
> This is probably too long already, but thank you for all of your hard
> work!
>
> DZ
>
> _______________________________________________
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Daniel P Zepeda

Re: Good Work Guys!

On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> Thanks Daniel.
> Now we do not want to compete with Squeak. We did pharo because we had
> to.

No, I don't think there is competing goals. Pharo's and Squeak's goals
seem to be different.

>
> We hope that we will produce something good that people can use.

Good so far, and I'm using it for playing right now, with an eye to
using it for something serious in the near future.

>
> Feel free to contribute. There is always something to do (test,
> reporting bugs, reporting that fixes
> are working....).

I don't know what I can do at the level I'm at now, but I'll keep my
eye out to contribute what I can.

>
>
> Stef
>
>>

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