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Nick Gasson wrote:
> Hi, > > Is there a list of potential GST summer of code projects? Sure. Here are some possibilities: 1) GnuTLS bindings, including adding to Swazoo support for serving HTTPS. Other common libraries, such as GD, GSL or Expat would be interesting. In a project application you probably want to propose a coherent set of libraries to work on, with an example of an application that would tie them together. 2) Work on the GUI. You could write a Gtk or Blox back-end for OmniBrowser, or add the ability to develop in the GUI and sync the files on the file system. 2a) As part of this you could also develop a system to port changesets from other Smalltalks. The idea is to have a merge-like command that takes two foreign source code files (e.g. from SqueakSource) and merges the code into a GNU Smalltalk source file. 2b) Or, you could implement a "remote browser", i.e. something that could browse an already running system. In other words, the view/controller and the model would reside on two different instances of the VM. This requires implementing or porting some kind of distributed messaging system. 2c) The same, for debugging. Investigate possibly if the protocols that are used by Java debuggers are suitable to Smalltalk. 3) Work on command-line tools. You could port parts of the Refactoring Browser and make a command-line version of Smalllint for example. 4) Create a build tool that allows one to coordinate builds with Smalltalk scripts, like Rake or SCons (see also http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/sake-rake-smalltalk for an example of what I mean). 5) Add a GNU Smalltalk backend to SWIG. 6) Implement better strategies for block closures in order to improve performance. 7) Build a continuous integration server using Seaside, with code reports. This could have many directions: building an interface to version control systems (svn, CVS, git) that can be used from Smalltalk, analyze what problems would limit the uptime of a web application written using GNU Smalltalk and Seaside (memory leaks, etc.),... 8) Write an Eclipse front-end for GNU Smalltalk. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Sure. Here are some possibilities: > > 1) GnuTLS bindings, including adding to Swazoo support for serving > HTTPS. Other common libraries, such as GD, GSL or Expat would be > interesting. In a project application you probably want to propose a > coherent set of libraries to work on, with an example of an > application that would tie them together. > > 2) Work on the GUI. You could write a Gtk or Blox back-end for > OmniBrowser, or add the ability to develop in the GUI and sync the > files on the file system. > > 2a) As part of this you could also develop a system to port changesets > from other Smalltalks. The idea is to have a merge-like command that > takes two foreign source code files (e.g. from SqueakSource) and > merges the code into a GNU Smalltalk source file. > > 2b) Or, you could implement a "remote browser", i.e. something that > could browse an already running system. In other words, the > view/controller and the model would reside on two different instances > of the VM. This requires implementing or porting some kind of > distributed messaging system. > > 2c) The same, for debugging. Investigate possibly if the protocols > that are used by Java debuggers are suitable to Smalltalk. > > 3) Work on command-line tools. You could port parts of the > Refactoring Browser and make a command-line version of Smalllint for > example. > > 4) Create a build tool that allows one to coordinate builds with > Smalltalk scripts, like Rake or SCons (see also > http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/sake-rake-smalltalk for an > example of what I mean). > > 5) Add a GNU Smalltalk backend to SWIG. > > 6) Implement better strategies for block closures in order to improve > performance. > > 7) Build a continuous integration server using Seaside, with code > reports. This could have many directions: building an interface to > version control systems (svn, CVS, git) that can be used from > Smalltalk, analyze what problems would limit the uptime of a web > application written using GNU Smalltalk and Seaside (memory leaks, > etc.),... > > 8) Write an Eclipse front-end for GNU Smalltalk. > > Paolo Thanks for the list! The SWIG bindings project looks interesting. I'm aware of at least one existing Smalltalk SWIG backend (http://commonsmalltalk.wikispaces.com/SWIG), but there's no GST support and it hasn't been updated for a while. It'd be nice to develop something that was more GST specific, perhaps with a view to getting it integrated in the main SWIG distribution. I think a SWIG backend could be useful for (1) too -- PyGSL (I think) uses SWIG to generate some of its GSL bindings. I'm also quite interested in working on an SDL library for GST (I was searching for one a little while ago, and found some code posted on this mailing list, but it was incomplete and I've seen nothing since). Nick _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:44:46PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Google accepts new applications starting on March 24thrd (see > http://code.google.com/soc/2008), but it's best if interested people > write here on the list beforehand. > > If anyone wants to act as mentor, please write on the list about that too. Do I see it right that GST wasn't accepted as GSOC org? Or do I miss it on http://code.google.com/soc/2008? Was there any reason? Greetings, Robin -- Robin Redeker | Deliantra, the free code+content MORPG [hidden email] / [hidden email] | http://www.deliantra.net http://www.ta-sa.org/ | _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
Robin Redeker wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:44:46PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> Google accepts new applications starting on March 24thrd (see >> http://code.google.com/soc/2008), but it's best if interested people >> write here on the list beforehand. >> >> If anyone wants to act as mentor, please write on the list about that too. > > Do I see it right that GST wasn't accepted as GSOC org? Or do I miss it > on http://code.google.com/soc/2008? Was there any reason? The Free Software Foundation should have been the organization for GST. I'll ask what happened (or did I miss it, either?) and check if ESUG is also sponsoring Smalltalk-based projects for next summer. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]> writes:
> The Free Software Foundation should have been the organization for > GST. I'll ask what happened (or did I miss it, either?) and check if > ESUG is also sponsoring Smalltalk-based projects for next summer. I suppose it's under "GNU Project". -- But you know how reluctant paranormal phenomena are to reveal themselves when skeptics are present. --Robert Sheaffer, SkI 9/2003 write me on member.fsf.org, username s11 _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
Stephen Compall wrote:
> Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]> writes: >> The Free Software Foundation should have been the organization for >> GST. I'll ask what happened (or did I miss it, either?) and check if >> ESUG is also sponsoring Smalltalk-based projects for next summer. > > I suppose it's under "GNU Project". Doh. :-) Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 04:47:55PM -0500, Stephen Compall wrote:
> Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]> writes: > > The Free Software Foundation should have been the organization for > > GST. I'll ask what happened (or did I miss it, either?) and check if > > ESUG is also sponsoring Smalltalk-based projects for next summer. > > I suppose it's under "GNU Project". > Well, I can't find any of Paolos Smalltalk ideas on http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas.html I could of course try to apply for a smalltalk project anyways. I thought the mentor knew whether he is going to be mentoring :) Greetings, Robin -- Robin Redeker | Deliantra, the free code+content MORPG [hidden email] / [hidden email] | http://www.deliantra.net http://www.ta-sa.org/ | _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
Robin Redeker wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 04:47:55PM -0500, Stephen Compall wrote: >> Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]> writes: >>> The Free Software Foundation should have been the organization for >>> GST. I'll ask what happened (or did I miss it, either?) and check if >>> ESUG is also sponsoring Smalltalk-based projects for next summer. >> I suppose it's under "GNU Project". > > Well, I can't find any of Paolos Smalltalk ideas on > > http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas.html No problem -- those are just *ideas*, and do not constrain at all the choice of students. You can present proposals on whatever you want, including those in the mailing list, and specify me a mentor or anyone else agrees to act as one (IRC can help to find one, I guess). Some of the ideas I posted are not even for GNU Smalltalk (such as the Eclipse plugin proposal, which I would not be able to mentor at all). Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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> I thought the mentor knew whether he is going to be mentoring :)
The mentor will only mentor if someone says he want to be mentored. :-) As long as they agree, you could specify anyone, even if they were never mentioned on the manling list. Paolo _______________________________________________ help-smalltalk mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-smalltalk |
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