The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*.
I made a mall list.
I need you to help me to complete it.
Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo.
Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads (Green), Sockets...
- Code Critics
- Refactoring Tools
- Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, japanese, Greek, ...)
- Command Line
- Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText)
- Fonts (FreeType)
- Compression (Zip, GZip)
- CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32
You didn't specified which Pharo version.
And you didn't provided even a minimal description... for an outsider Monticello and Metacello sounds almost the same, same with GTPlayground and GTSpotter, etc.
2015-04-16 10:48 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
this is for *you* to help me, not the final web page.
This is an excellent initiative!
I have checked the pharo.org website, and it looks like that we should list the catalog of applications.
Which cool application users can use with Pharo?
2015-04-16 15:48 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
- I would move "Refactoring Tools" to frameworks, or do we have a Refactoring Tool besides Code Critics and Nautilus refactoring support?
- Glamour is more a framework than a GUI library
- I would remove OSWindow it does not work "out of the box".
- there is a "Graphics" entry in category "Graphics", some hints what you would like to see for this entry?
In reply to this post by abergel
I remember seeing this post http://forum.world.st/Why-not-having-NeoCSV-and-NeoJSON-in-the-image-td4808420.html#a4809298 which seems relevant to this - having bundles of packages dedicated to certain task.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ok about descriptions, but Pharo compatibility versions should be provided for each package, if not you would end with hundreds of packages not loadable in Pharo 4....and people then have to guess which is the right Pharo version for a package.Hernán
Your list is more or less the "core" packages already loaded by default in Pharo images.
2015-04-16 11:38 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
In reply to this post by Peter Uhnak
I support this. CSV is pretty basic feature in any programming environment out there: R, Python, Ruby, PHP, MATLAB, etc. include it in their standard library.
2015-04-16 11:45 GMT-03:00 Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]>:
In reply to this post by hernanmd
as my mail says, this are the frameworks already in the image, not a list of cool stuff people can download, but the things are already there.
So in case of version, all versions are the same: 4.0
For downloaded packages there is already: http://catalog.pharo.org (which will be enhanced in the future, but is already there).
In reply to this post by Nicolai Hess
ok, this two.
not quite. With SDL2 is very usable… it is rough, that’s true… but it works :)
(and stable vm come with sdl2 for all platforms, too)
yeah… name not good. This is the old graphics library (the one we actually use to display the world), I don’t know how to call it… BitBlt graphics, perhaps?
and as is obviously not as clear as it should, let me rephrase what I’m asking for:
packages that are in the image and not in my list *and are interesting for end users* :)
2015-04-16 17:06 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
"Canvas" or "Bitmap graphics"
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