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rjulianford
Hey there.

Is there an HTML parser in VAST?

Julian

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Re: HTML Parser?

Mariano Martinez Peck-2
Hi Julian,

I didn't find any HTML parser available. Maybe others do know. But I am throwing an idea in case it helps you.  On other environments I had this similar need and what I ended up doing is to use the tody tool to convert from HTML to XHTML and then use a regular XML parser on the result. 
Of course, I called 'tidy' tool using the tool of the dialect to fork processes in the OS. In VAST it should be either AbtProgramStarter or their low level os-specific classes. 

Let me know if that helps,

Mariano




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Re: HTML Parser?

rjulianford
Hi, Mariano.

Thank you very much for the reply.
I was wondering, since no one had replied to me, if it meant there was no such thing, or if I has asked
a remarkably stupid question, and everyone felt I didn't deserve a reply.....LOL.

In any case, I ended up spending a couple hours the other night, and wrote my own.
You already had the AbtHtmlElement classes, so I just extended the top level class,
and wrote a recursive parser (gotta LOVE object-oriented recursion).  The whole thing required
about 6 methods, took only a couple hours, and now works perfectly (well....it APPEARS to...).

Thanks again..

Julian



On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 3:43:09 PM UTC-5, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Julian,

I didn't find any HTML parser available. Maybe others do know. But I am throwing an idea in case it helps you.  On other environments I had this similar need and what I ended up doing is to use the tody tool to convert from HTML to XHTML and then use a regular XML parser on the result. 
Something like this: <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/138555/how-to-convert-html-to-xhtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F138555%2Fhow-to-convert-html-to-xhtml\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEDLk8pdYjW7FbFJcCZ4SpfjMLsoA&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F138555%2Fhow-to-convert-html-to-xhtml\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEDLk8pdYjW7FbFJcCZ4SpfjMLsoA&#39;;return true;">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/138555/how-to-convert-html-to-xhtml
Of course, I called 'tidy' tool using the tool of the dialect to fork processes in the OS. In VAST it should be either AbtProgramStarter or their low level os-specific classes. 

Let me know if that helps,

Mariano




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Hey there.

Is there an HTML parser in VAST?

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Re: HTML Parser?

peter.ode
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I have a Pharo 4 image with Seaside 3.0 loaded.

Also, I found a utility, called Seafox, that opens a web page where HTML code can be pasted, it then outputs Seaside web page definitions. The purpose of Seafox is to speed development of Seaside web pages.

I haven't yet tested Seafox, but assume it has an HTML parser.

Here's the Workspace code to load Seafox into a Pharo 4 image that already has Seaside up-and-running:

>> This is Pharo 4 <<

Gofer it
   squeaksource: 'Seafox';
   package: 'ConfigurationOfSeafox';
   load.

ConfigurationOfSeafox loadBleedingEdge 

^^ above loaded in this image ^^

a MetacelloFetchingMCSpecLoader(linear load : 
  explicit load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfSeafox]
    load : ConfigurationOfObjectMetaTools-MarianoMartinezPeck.2
  linear load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfSeafox]
    load : Javascript-Jasmine-NickAger.2
      linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfObjectMetaTools]
load : DynamicDeadCodeFinder-MarianoMartinezPeck.22
load : MethodWrappers-MarianoMartinezPeck.6
load : ObjectMetaTools-NicolasLaplume.9
        load : Seafox-NickAger.53)

I don't have time to explore this now.
If you make some progress with this, please let me know.
...
Peter Ode



On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:43 PM 'Mariano Martinez Peck' via VA Smalltalk <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Julian,

I didn't find any HTML parser available. Maybe others do know. But I am throwing an idea in case it helps you.  On other environments I had this similar need and what I ended up doing is to use the tody tool to convert from HTML to XHTML and then use a regular XML parser on the result. 
Of course, I called 'tidy' tool using the tool of the dialect to fork processes in the OS. In VAST it should be either AbtProgramStarter or their low level os-specific classes. 

Let me know if that helps,

Mariano




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Is there an HTML parser in VAST?

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Re: HTML Parser?

jtuchel
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Julian,



Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2019 02:21:52 UTC+1 schrieb [hidden email]:
Hi, Mariano.

Thank you very much for the reply.
I was wondering, since no one had replied to me, if it meant there was no such thing, or if I has asked
a remarkably stupid question, and everyone felt I didn't deserve a reply.....LOL.


if that was the case, I would have been banned from this forum about a decade ago or so. Most people here are nice ;-)

 
In any case, I ended up spending a couple hours the other night, and wrote my own.

I guess you've heard about VASTGoodies...? If not, please ask ;-)
 
You already had the AbtHtmlElement classes, so I just extended the top level class,
and wrote a recursive parser (gotta LOVE object-oriented recursion).  The whole thing required
about 6 methods, took only a couple hours, and now works perfectly (well....it APPEARS to...).


Sounds really good.


Joachim

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Re: HTML Parser?

Seth Berman
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Hi Julian,

"In any case, I ended up spending a couple hours the other night, and wrote my own.
You already had the AbtHtmlElement classes, so I just extended the top level class,
and wrote a recursive parser (gotta LOVE object-oriented recursion).  The whole thing required
about 6 methods, took only a couple hours, and now works perfectly (well....it APPEARS to...)."

- Wow..this sounds really cool!  Well done!

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 8:21:52 PM UTC-5, [hidden email] wrote:
Hi, Mariano.

Thank you very much for the reply.
I was wondering, since no one had replied to me, if it meant there was no such thing, or if I has asked
a remarkably stupid question, and everyone felt I didn't deserve a reply.....LOL.

In any case, I ended up spending a couple hours the other night, and wrote my own.
You already had the AbtHtmlElement classes, so I just extended the top level class,
and wrote a recursive parser (gotta LOVE object-oriented recursion).  The whole thing required
about 6 methods, took only a couple hours, and now works perfectly (well....it APPEARS to...).

Thanks again..

Julian



On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 3:43:09 PM UTC-5, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
Hi Julian,

I didn't find any HTML parser available. Maybe others do know. But I am throwing an idea in case it helps you.  On other environments I had this similar need and what I ended up doing is to use the tody tool to convert from HTML to XHTML and then use a regular XML parser on the result. 
Something like this: <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/138555/how-to-convert-html-to-xhtml" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F138555%2Fhow-to-convert-html-to-xhtml\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEDLk8pdYjW7FbFJcCZ4SpfjMLsoA&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F138555%2Fhow-to-convert-html-to-xhtml\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEDLk8pdYjW7FbFJcCZ4SpfjMLsoA&#39;;return true;">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/138555/how-to-convert-html-to-xhtml
Of course, I called 'tidy' tool using the tool of the dialect to fork processes in the OS. In VAST it should be either AbtProgramStarter or their low level os-specific classes. 

Let me know if that helps,

Mariano




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Hey there.

Is there an HTML parser in VAST?

Julian

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Re: HTML Parser?

rjulianford
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Thank you, Peter.

I appreciate the information.
I now have what I need, but I will; keep this in mind for the future.

Best Regards,
Julian


On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 8:23:08 PM UTC-5, Peter Ode wrote:
I have a Pharo 4 image with Seaside 3.0 loaded.

Also, I found a utility, called Seafox, that opens a web page where HTML code can be pasted, it then outputs Seaside web page definitions. The purpose of Seafox is to speed development of Seaside web pages.

I haven't yet tested Seafox, but assume it has an HTML parser.

Here's the Workspace code to load Seafox into a Pharo 4 image that already has Seaside up-and-running:

>> This is Pharo 4 <<

Gofer it
   squeaksource: 'Seafox';
   package: 'ConfigurationOfSeafox';
   load.

ConfigurationOfSeafox loadBleedingEdge 

^^ above loaded in this image ^^

a MetacelloFetchingMCSpecLoader(linear load : 
  explicit load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfSeafox]
    load : ConfigurationOfObjectMetaTools-MarianoMartinezPeck.2
  linear load : 0.2-baseline [ConfigurationOfSeafox]
    load : Javascript-Jasmine-NickAger.2
      linear load : 1.0-baseline [ConfigurationOfObjectMetaTools]
load : DynamicDeadCodeFinder-MarianoMartinezPeck.22
load : MethodWrappers-MarianoMartinezPeck.6
load : ObjectMetaTools-NicolasLaplume.9
        load : Seafox-NickAger.53)

I don't have time to explore this now.
If you make some progress with this, please let me know.
...
Peter Ode



On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:43 PM 'Mariano Martinez Peck' via VA Smalltalk <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="oyX6fn9YGgAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">va-sma...@...> wrote:
Hi Julian,

I didn't find any HTML parser available. Maybe others do know. But I am throwing an idea in case it helps you.  On other environments I had this similar need and what I ended up doing is to use the tody tool to convert from HTML to XHTML and then use a regular XML parser on the result. 
Something like this: <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/138555/how-to-convert-html-to-xhtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F138555%2Fhow-to-convert-html-to-xhtml\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEDLk8pdYjW7FbFJcCZ4SpfjMLsoA&#39;;return true;" onclick="this.href=&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2Fquestions%2F138555%2Fhow-to-convert-html-to-xhtml\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNEDLk8pdYjW7FbFJcCZ4SpfjMLsoA&#39;;return true;">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/138555/how-to-convert-html-to-xhtml
Of course, I called 'tidy' tool using the tool of the dialect to fork processes in the OS. In VAST it should be either AbtProgramStarter or their low level os-specific classes. 

Let me know if that helps,

Mariano




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Hey there.

Is there an HTML parser in VAST?

Julian

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Re: HTML Parser?

rjulianford
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Hi, Joachim.

What I REALLY needed was some of that Mirto we enjoyed in Sardenia!!!

In any case, yes, I have always been impressed by the friendliness of this group.
I was really just kidding about not deserving an answer....

Yes, I am quite familiar with VAST Goodies.
I had already thought I might push my code into it.

Best Regards,
Julian


On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 2:11:15 AM UTC-5, Joachim Tuchel wrote:
Julian,



Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2019 02:21:52 UTC+1 schrieb [hidden email]:
Hi, Mariano.

Thank you very much for the reply.
I was wondering, since no one had replied to me, if it meant there was no such thing, or if I has asked
a remarkably stupid question, and everyone felt I didn't deserve a reply.....LOL.


if that was the case, I would have been banned from this forum about a decade ago or so. Most people here are nice ;-)

 
In any case, I ended up spending a couple hours the other night, and wrote my own.

I guess you've heard about VASTGoodies...? If not, please ask ;-)
 
You already had the AbtHtmlElement classes, so I just extended the top level class,
and wrote a recursive parser (gotta LOVE object-oriented recursion).  The whole thing required
about 6 methods, took only a couple hours, and now works perfectly (well....it APPEARS to...).


Sounds really good.


Joachim

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Re: HTML Parser?

jtuchel
You know, that Mirto would probably not have solved the problem, but the problem might have seemed a little less pressing ;-)
Nevertheless, I hope to see you this year in Cologne...

And about that VASTGoodies thing: just press the button, it's easy, Adriaan made a great tool for that ;-)

Joachim


Am Samstag, 9. Februar 2019 23:45:20 UTC+1 schrieb [hidden email]:
Hi, Joachim.

What I REALLY needed was some of that Mirto we enjoyed in Sardenia!!!

In any case, yes, I have always been impressed by the friendliness of this group.
I was really just kidding about not deserving an answer....

Yes, I am quite familiar with VAST Goodies.
I had already thought I might push my code into it.

Best Regards,
Julian


On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 2:11:15 AM UTC-5, Joachim Tuchel wrote:
Julian,



Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2019 02:21:52 UTC+1 schrieb [hidden email]:
Hi, Mariano.

Thank you very much for the reply.
I was wondering, since no one had replied to me, if it meant there was no such thing, or if I has asked
a remarkably stupid question, and everyone felt I didn't deserve a reply.....LOL.


if that was the case, I would have been banned from this forum about a decade ago or so. Most people here are nice ;-)

 
In any case, I ended up spending a couple hours the other night, and wrote my own.

I guess you've heard about VASTGoodies...? If not, please ask ;-)
 
You already had the AbtHtmlElement classes, so I just extended the top level class,
and wrote a recursive parser (gotta LOVE object-oriented recursion).  The whole thing required
about 6 methods, took only a couple hours, and now works perfectly (well....it APPEARS to...).


Sounds really good.


Joachim

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