Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?
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Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?
 
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I think I've found something that should be fixed
before releasing 1.0 since it is meanwhile a major problem on Windows. In "old" Squeak/Pharo you could close the native world window using the "X" or hit ALT+F4 on Windows and the system asked you if you really want to close the whole Smalltalk system using a native dialog which was provided by the VM. With the new VM's (4.0.1 and 4.0.2 on Windows, see [1]) the native "window close event" is now dispatched from the VM into the image so it could be handled by Smalltalk code. This is currently not done/handled in Pharo. Only in Squeak so far. The recent Squeak trunk/release candidate already handles the event within the image and now provides an in-image dialog to ask the user to quit. So: in Pharo now NOTHING happens when you try to close the window using "X", you can only quit using the world menu - which is IMHO really a show stopper since you cant close using "X" or ALT+F4 (the key combination to close any windows program). Two possible options: A) we should handle the event now in-image similar to Squeak by fixing and integration issue 2131 (see [2]), so not only for 1.1. but also for 1.0 B) release and distribute Pharo 1.0 with an old VM < 4.0 BTW: You can get the old behavior on Windows by additionally using SHIFT, so SHIFT + ALT + F4 allows to close. But this is not very convinient, doesnt follow what the typical Windows user expects and one has to know about it... Bye T. [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-March/004142.html [2] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2131 -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?
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if you want this to be fixed for 1.1
open a ticket provide some tested code I cannot do everything especially for platform I do not have access to. Stef > I think I've found something that should be fixed > before releasing 1.0 since it is meanwhile a major problem on Windows. > > In "old" Squeak/Pharo you could close the native world window > using the "X" or hit ALT+F4 on Windows and the system > asked you if you really want to close the whole Smalltalk system > using a native dialog which was provided by the VM. > > With the new VM's (4.0.1 and 4.0.2 on Windows, see [1]) the native > "window close event" is now dispatched from the VM into > the image so it could be handled by Smalltalk code. > This is currently not done/handled in Pharo. Only in Squeak so far. > > The recent Squeak trunk/release candidate already handles the > event within the image and now provides an in-image dialog > to ask the user to quit. > > So: in Pharo now NOTHING happens when you try to close the window > using "X", you can only quit using the world menu - which is IMHO really > a show stopper since you cant close using "X" or ALT+F4 (the key combination to close any windows program). a showstopper is something that breaks and put the system on its knees. So this problem may be fixed but only for 1.1. > > Two possible options: > > A) we should handle the event now in-image similar to Squeak > by fixing and integration issue 2131 (see [2]), so not only > for 1.1. but also for 1.0 > > B) release and distribute Pharo 1.0 with an old VM < 4.0 > > > BTW: > You can get the old behavior on Windows by additionally using SHIFT, so > SHIFT + ALT + F4 allows to close. > But this is not very convinient, doesnt follow what the typical > Windows user expects and one has to know about it... > > Bye > T. > > [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-March/004142.html > [2] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2131 > > -- > GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?
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In reply to this post by Torsten Bergmann
Thanks Torsten for reporting. I don't think this is a stopper for 1.0 at all.
We can release an older VM without that problem ? Even more because the new version 4 doesn't bring anything new for Pharo. isn't it ? The only problem where ImageSegment...Ok, I rather to have working this thing of closing the windows. Can you tell us exactly the link of the previous vm that was working ? because we are doing the one-click now and we took the 4. Then, for 1.1 open a ticket so that someone try to fix the problem with the version 4. Cheers Mariano On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: I think I've found something that should be fixed _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> Thanks Torsten for reporting. I don't think this is a stopper for 1.0 at > all. > > We can release an older VM without that problem ? Even more because the new > version 4 doesn't bring anything new for Pharo. isn't it ? This should pass, shouldn't it? [ FileStream newFileNamed: 'foo.txt' do: [ :file | file position: 1. self assert: file next isNil. self assert: file atEnd ] ] ensure: [ FileDirectory default deleteFileNamed: 'foo.txt' ifAbsent: [] ] Levente > The only problem where ImageSegment...Ok, I rather to have working this > thing of closing the windows. > > Can you tell us exactly the link of the previous vm that was working ? > because we are doing the one-click now and we took the 4. > > Then, for 1.1 open a ticket so that someone try to fix the problem with the > version 4. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I think I've found something that should be fixed >> before releasing 1.0 since it is meanwhile a major problem on Windows. >> >> In "old" Squeak/Pharo you could close the native world window >> using the "X" or hit ALT+F4 on Windows and the system >> asked you if you really want to close the whole Smalltalk system >> using a native dialog which was provided by the VM. >> >> With the new VM's (4.0.1 and 4.0.2 on Windows, see [1]) the native >> "window close event" is now dispatched from the VM into >> the image so it could be handled by Smalltalk code. >> This is currently not done/handled in Pharo. Only in Squeak so far. >> >> The recent Squeak trunk/release candidate already handles the >> event within the image and now provides an in-image dialog >> to ask the user to quit. >> >> So: in Pharo now NOTHING happens when you try to close the window >> using "X", you can only quit using the world menu - which is IMHO really >> a show stopper since you cant close using "X" or ALT+F4 (the key >> combination to close any windows program). >> >> Two possible options: >> >> A) we should handle the event now in-image similar to Squeak >> by fixing and integration issue 2131 (see [2]), so not only >> for 1.1. but also for 1.0 >> >> B) release and distribute Pharo 1.0 with an old VM < 4.0 >> >> >> BTW: >> You can get the old behavior on Windows by additionally using SHIFT, so >> SHIFT + ALT + F4 allows to close. >> But this is not very convinient, doesnt follow what the typical >> Windows user expects and one has to know about it... >> >> Bye >> T. >> >> [1] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-March/004142.html >> [2] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2131 >> >> -- >> GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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