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MrGwen

[Help-Smalltalk] GNU Smalltalk Sprint

Hi everybody,

Nicolas Petton on IRC has a wonderful idea: a GNU Smalltalk Sprint.
And we should discuss about the modality of the sprint:

- when (before Christmas, after)
- how much time (I think a week-end is nice)
- where (France, Italy, ...)
- and who (you can count me I am in ;)

Cheers,
Gwen

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Paolo Bonzini-2

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

On 10/13/2010 12:49 PM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Nicolas Petton on IRC has a wonderful idea: a GNU Smalltalk Sprint.
> And we should discuss about the modality of the sprint:
>
> - when (before Christmas, after)
> - how much time (I think a week-end is nice)

Yeah, or a friday-saturday during Christmas break.

> - where (France, Italy, ...)

I think we can do it remotely using IRC to communicate. We should also
advertise it to welcome newbies and make improved installation instructions.

Paolo

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Mathieu Suen-2

Re : [Help-Smalltalk] GNU Smalltalk Sprint

----- Message d'origine ----

> De : Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]>
> À : Gwenaël Casaccio <[hidden email]>
> Cc : GNU Smalltalk <[hidden email]>
> Envoyé le : Mer 13 octobre 2010, 13h 59min 02s
> Objet : Re: [Help-Smalltalk] GNU Smalltalk Sprint
>
> On 10/13/2010 12:49 PM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > Nicolas Petton on IRC has a wonderful idea: a GNU Smalltalk Sprint.
> > And we should discuss about the modality of the sprint:
> >
> > - when (before Christmas, after)
> > - how much time (I think a week-end is nice)
>
> Yeah, or a friday-saturday during Christmas break.
>
> > - where (France, Italy, ...)
>
> I think we can do it remotely using IRC to communicate. We should also
> advertise it to welcome newbies and make improved installation instructions.
>
> Paolo
>

For the advertisement, we may use the wiki for a tempplate invtation that we can
copy past all over the place we want to.

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MrGwen

Re: Re : [Help-Smalltalk] GNU Smalltalk Sprint

Hi,

I think we can do a french GST sprint, that will be very funny ;-)
And Paolo will be on IRC to communicate ;-)

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Mathieu Suen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> ----- Message d'origine ----
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>> De : Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]>
>> À : Gwenaël Casaccio <[hidden email]>
>> Cc : GNU Smalltalk <[hidden email]>
>> Envoyé le : Mer 13 octobre 2010, 13h 59min 02s
>> Objet : Re: [Help-Smalltalk] GNU Smalltalk Sprint
>>
>> On 10/13/2010 12:49 PM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:
>> > Hi everybody,
>> >
>> > Nicolas Petton on IRC has a wonderful idea: a GNU Smalltalk Sprint.
>> > And we should discuss about the modality of the sprint:
>> >
>> > - when (before Christmas, after)
>> > - how much time (I think a week-end is nice)
>>
>> Yeah, or a friday-saturday during Christmas break.
>>
>> > - where (France, Italy, ...)
>>
>> I think we can do it remotely using IRC to communicate. We should also
>> advertise it to welcome newbies and make improved installation instructions.
>>
>> Paolo
>>
> For the advertisement, we may use the wiki for a tempplate invtation that we can
> copy past all over the place we want to.
>
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> -Mathieu Suen
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Paolo Bonzini-2

Re: Re : GNU Smalltalk Sprint

On 10/14/2010 10:40 AM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we can do a french GST sprint, that will be very funny;-)
> And Paolo will be on IRC to communicate;-)

If the French people want to get together that's great. I'm sure Canol
and other people may want to join, though, so it should be distributed
by default. I certainly prefer a more frequent / less expensive setting
for sprints.

Paolo

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ZuLuuuuuu

Re: Re : GNU Smalltalk Sprint

Since my technical knowledge is pretty limited don't think about me much :)

Though I might join for a day and work on iyzi Forum. Or maybe prepare the revised edition of the book ESUG wants from me, would one of those count?

Canol Gökel

Nicolas Petton

Re: Re : GNU Smalltalk Sprint

You can count on me too! ;)

Cheers,
Nico

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MrGwen

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

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Hi everybody,

I've added a new page into the WIKI, so people can register
to the sprint : http://smalltalk.gnu.org/wiki/events

To answer Krishna and Canol the sprint is open to everybody.

Now we should decide for a date and a task list ;)

Cheers,
Gwen

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Krishna <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello all,
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Paolo Bonzini <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/13/2010 12:49 PM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> Nicolas Petton on IRC has a wonderful idea: a GNU Smalltalk Sprint.
>>> And we should discuss about the modality of the sprint:
>>>
>>> - when (before Christmas, after)
>>> - how much time (I think a week-end is nice)
>>
>> Yeah, or a friday-saturday during Christmas break.
>>
>>> - where (France, Italy, ...)
>>
>> I think we can do it remotely using IRC to communicate. We should also
>> advertise it to welcome newbies and make improved installation instructions.
>
> If there is an IRC window into the sprint I'll happily join in although I'll
> be a silent onlooker as I've been on the mailing list for almost a decade :)
> cheers,
> --krishna
> --
> The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the
> universe: entropy and human stupidity.
> --Damian Conway
>

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Nicolas Petton

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

Le vendredi 15 octobre 2010 à 16:00 +0200, Gwenaël Casaccio a écrit :
> Hi everybody,
>
> I've added a new page into the WIKI, so people can register
> to the sprint : http://smalltalk.gnu.org/wiki/events
>
> To answer Krishna and Canol the sprint is open to everybody.
>
> Now we should decide for a date and a task list ;)

For the tasks, I suggest to add one or two tasks for VisualGST.
Now we should decide what tasks we want for VisualGST ;)

Cheers,
Nico
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Nicolas Petton

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

What about:

- Fixing the compiler
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/527

- Fixing gst-remote
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/497
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/496

Cheers,
Nico

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MrGwen

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

Improve the packages:

- atomic loading
- package builder

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Nicolas Petton
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> What about:
>
> - Fixing the compiler
> http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/527
>
> - Fixing gst-remote
> http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/497
> http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/496
>
> Cheers,
> Nico
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Stefan Schmiedl

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:14:51 +0200
Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote:

> For the tasks, I suggest to add one or two tasks for VisualGST.

Allow VisualGST to hook up to a headless gst like gst-remote
does. Just imagine how much fun working on a running Iliad app
you could have with this.

s.

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Nicolas Petton

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

Le samedi 16 octobre 2010 à 12:00 +0200, Stefan Schmiedl a écrit :
> Allow VisualGST to hook up to a headless gst like gst-remote
> does. Just imagine how much fun working on a running Iliad app
> you could have with this.

+1 (not sure it's should be on the top of the list but it's very cool
anyway)

Cheers,
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Paolo Bonzini-2

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

On 10/16/2010 12:18 PM, Nicolas Petton wrote:
>> > Allow VisualGST to hook up to a headless gst like gst-remote
>> > does. Just imagine how much fun working on a running Iliad app
>> > you could have with this.
> +1 (not sure it's should be on the top of the list but it's very cool
> anyway)

True, it would really be cool. You need some kind of RPC, basically, so
that would be the "real" task.

Paolo

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Mathieu Suen-2

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

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On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:

> Now we should decide for a date and a task list ;)

Fixing the JIT
Fixing th gtk on OSX

Mth

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MrGwen

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

For the jit there are two separate tasks:

- fix the 32 bits jit (it seems that most of the bugs are process related)
- port it to the 64 bits (it is broken)
- pic

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Mathieu Suen <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:
>
>> Now we should decide for a date and a task list ;)
>
>
> Fixing the JIT
> Fixing th gtk on OSX

For GTK a way to improve the binding is to use gobject introspection to generate
the binding (look at my project on github)

Gwen

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Paolo Bonzini-2

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

On 10/16/2010 01:49 PM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:
> For the jit there are two separate tasks:
>
> - fix the 32 bits jit (it seems that most of the bugs are process related)
> - port it to the 64 bits (it is broken)

lightning is broken, it has to be updated.

> - pic

PIC that actually improves performance can easily take a week or two
full time.

Paolo

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Dmitry Matveev

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

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2010/10/16, Stefan Schmiedl <[hidden email]>:
> Allow VisualGST to hook up to a headless gst like gst-remote
> does. Just imagine how much fun working on a running Iliad app
> you could have with this.

Hey, I wanted to implement it as my bachelor thesis this year :)

Regards,
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Paolo Bonzini-2

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 14:48, Dmitry Matveev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> 2010/10/16, Stefan Schmiedl <[hidden email]>:
>> Allow VisualGST to hook up to a headless gst like gst-remote
>> does. Just imagine how much fun working on a running Iliad app
>> you could have with this.
>
> Hey, I wanted to implement it as my bachelor thesis this year :)

You're more than welcome. :)

Paolo

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Paolo Bonzini-2

Re: GNU Smalltalk Sprint

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- a coverage tool (for method-coverage, it can be based on gst-profile)
- SUnit testcases for CObject and everything not currently covered

On 10/16/2010 09:59 AM, Gwenaël Casaccio wrote:

> Improve the packages:
>
> - atomic loading
> - package builder
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Nicolas Petton
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > What about:
>> >
>> > - Fixing the compiler
>> > http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/527
>> >
>> > - Fixing gst-remote
>> > http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/497
>> > http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/issue/496

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