Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also
share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: - Refactored and updated the code - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too - Metacello config is updated for both - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project (depending on from where you load it) - the help for the help system is displayed as last book - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and pages (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like HTMLHelpPage, ...) The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) as well as authoring tools. Thanks to Metacello one is able to manage the differences. To load: Squeak ====== Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; install: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load Pharo ===== Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load Bye T. -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
On 19 February 2010 18:00, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also > share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: > > - Refactored and updated the code > - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too > - Metacello config is updated for both > - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project > (depending on from where you load it) > - the help for the help system is displayed as last book > - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and pages > (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like > HTMLHelpPage, ...) > > The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own > custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for > squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) > as well as authoring tools. > > Thanks to Metacello one is able to manage the differences. To load: > > Squeak > ====== > > Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; > install: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load > > > Pharo > ===== > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load > > I haven't took a look at it yet. But i think this is very good stuff which should be incorporated into a future release(s). Especially, there is some of people expressing the need of having a good documentation on image/packages. > Bye > T. > -- > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Torsten,
Thanks for the contribution! I like it. It is simple to use and new books/pages can be added by external packages. We should consider adding it to the default Pharo configuration and encourage package maintainers to create help pages for their software. Cheers, Adrian On Feb 19, 2010, at 17:00 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also > share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: > > - Refactored and updated the code > - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too > - Metacello config is updated for both > - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project > (depending on from where you load it) > - the help for the help system is displayed as last book > - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and pages > (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like > HTMLHelpPage, ...) > > The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own > custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for > squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) > as well as authoring tools. > > Thanks to Metacello one is able to manage the differences. To load: > > Squeak > ====== > > Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; > install: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load > > > Pharo > ===== > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load > > > Bye > T. > -- > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Yeap looks excellent!
I was thinking that some part of the pharo by example could be turned into pages. Stef On Feb 20, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Torsten, > > Thanks for the contribution! > > I like it. It is simple to use and new books/pages can be added by external packages. We should consider adding it to the default Pharo configuration and encourage package maintainers to create help pages for their software. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Feb 19, 2010, at 17:00 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also >> share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: >> >> - Refactored and updated the code >> - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too >> - Metacello config is updated for both >> - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project >> (depending on from where you load it) >> - the help for the help system is displayed as last book >> - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and pages >> (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like >> HTMLHelpPage, ...) >> >> The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own >> custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for >> squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) >> as well as authoring tools. >> >> Thanks to Metacello one is able to manage the differences. To load: >> >> Squeak >> ====== >> >> Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> install: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'. >> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load >> >> >> Pharo >> ===== >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; >> load. >> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load >> >> >> Bye >> T. >> -- >> Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - >> jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 05:00:23PM +0100, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also > share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: > > - Refactored and updated the code > - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too > - Metacello config is updated for both > - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project > (depending on from where you load it) > - the help for the help system is displayed as last book > - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and pages > (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like > HTMLHelpPage, ...) > > The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own > custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for > squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) > as well as authoring tools. This is *really* nice! Dave _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
We should keep in mind that if the help system is to become really used and even mentioned in external documentation (e.g. PBE) it should be made with hindsight to work nice with the multilingual support. . .
my 0.019999... -- Cesar Rabak Em 20/02/2010 20:58, David T. Lewis < [hidden email] > escreveu: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 05:00:23PM +0100, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also > share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: > > - Refactored and updated the code > - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too > - Metacello config is updated for both > - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project > (depending on from where you load it) > - the help for the help system is displayed as last book > - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and pages > (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like > HTMLHelpPage, ...) > > The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own > custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for > squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) > as well as authoring tools. This is *really* nice! Dave _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Torsten / Danny I was discussing with laurent and I like his idea. We could tag test with <publichelp> and the tests would be used for the Help. We could design test that are more for understanding than identifying bugs and we would have a win-win situation: documentation and always in sync. doing the same for class comments would be nice. Often in a package you have one or two important classes. This would be a good incentive to get cool comments. On Feb 19, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also > share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: > > - Refactored and updated the code > - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too > - Metacello config is updated for both > - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project > (depending on from where you load it) > - the help for the help system is displayed as last book > - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and pages > (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like > HTMLHelpPage, ...) > > The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own > custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for > squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) > as well as authoring tools. > > Thanks to Metacello one is able to manage the differences. To load: > > Squeak > ====== > > Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; > install: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load > > > Pharo > ===== > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') load > > > Bye > T. > -- > Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - > jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Hi!
I like the idea. On the weekend I hacked a bit of code to generate help pages from the class and methods comments. I have just added another bit of code that sorts the documentation for all methods so that methods with a <help> pragma appear in a special section. See the "Help on Help" pages in the browser. And I just learned that you can load this with (ConfigurationOfHelpSystem project version: '1.0-baseline') load. Danny Am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2010 23:39:16 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: > Torsten / Danny > > I was discussing with laurent and I like his idea. > We could tag > test with > <publichelp> > > and the tests would be used for the Help. We could design test that are > more for understanding than identifying bugs and we would have a win-win > situation: documentation and always in sync. > > doing the same for class comments would be nice. > Often in a package you have one or two important classes. > > This would be a good incentive to get cool comments. > > On Feb 19, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also > > share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: > > > > - Refactored and updated the code > > - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too > > - Metacello config is updated for both > > - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project > > (depending on from where you load it) > > - the help for the help system is displayed as last book > > - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and > > pages (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like > > HTMLHelpPage, ...) > > > > The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own > > custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for > > squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) > > as well as authoring tools. > > > > Thanks to Metacello one is able to manage the differences. To load: > > > > Squeak > > ====== > > > > Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > install: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'. > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') > > load > > > > > > Pharo > > ===== > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; > > load. > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') > > load > > > > > > Bye > > T. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Cool
Danny what we could do is to define a pragma that we could use to tag public tests that are published in the help. Let us know and we can give a try to see. Stef On Feb 22, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Danny Chan wrote: > Hi! > > I like the idea. On the weekend I hacked a bit of code to generate help pages > from the class and methods comments. I have just added another bit of code > that sorts the documentation for all methods so that methods with a <help> > pragma appear in a special section. See the "Help on Help" pages in the > browser. > > And I just learned that you can load this with > (ConfigurationOfHelpSystem project version: '1.0-baseline') load. > > Danny > > Am Sonntag, 21. Februar 2010 23:39:16 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: >> Torsten / Danny >> >> I was discussing with laurent and I like his idea. >> We could tag >> test with >> <publichelp> >> >> and the tests would be used for the Help. We could design test that are >> more for understanding than identifying bugs and we would have a win-win >> situation: documentation and always in sync. >> >> doing the same for class comments would be nice. >> Often in a package you have one or two important classes. >> >> This would be a good incentive to get cool comments. >> >> On Feb 19, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>> Since we share tools and code - we may in the future also >>> share (in-image) documentation for tools. What is new: >>> >>> - Refactored and updated the code >>> - Help System is now usable in Pharo and Squeak too >>> - Metacello config is updated for both >>> - there is an initial help for the Pharo project and the Squeak project >>> (depending on from where you load it) >>> - the help for the help system is displayed as last book >>> - I merged HelpContents into a new HelpPage - so we have books and >>> pages (we may later add other forms than text in subclasses like >>> HTMLHelpPage, ...) >>> >>> The help browser includs a book on how to provide/implement an own >>> custom help. Future version may include specific colored icons for >>> squeak and better UI depending on the UI system (Polymorph in Squeak) >>> as well as authoring tools. >>> >>> Thanks to Metacello one is able to manage the differences. To load: >>> >>> Squeak >>> ====== >>> >>> Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>> install: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'. >>> >>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') >>> load >>> >>> >>> Pharo >>> ===== >>> >>> Gofer new >>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; >>> load. >>> >>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) project version: '1.0') >>> load >>> >>> >>> Bye >>> T. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Danny Chan <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi! You should read about Metacello :) You can start by reading Torsten post...that will follow to the metacello links too http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-February/144820.html Danny _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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