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Richard Sargent

How do I install 8.5 along side 8.5.2? [Windows 7]

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I already have 8.5.2 installed and I need to install 8.5 to conduct some compatibility/regression testing between versions. When I attempt to install 8.5, it suggests there is nothing to install (both product and documentation selections are checked, but disabled, and both show +0MB as needing to be installed).

Is there any way to force setup.exe to install 8.5 concurrently with 8.5.2?

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Dusty-2

Re: How do I install 8.5 along side 8.5.2? [Windows 7]

I think I just changed the path to say '8.5.2' where it has '8.5' as a directory.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Richard Sargent <[hidden email]> wrote:

I already have 8.5.2 installed and I need to install 8.5 to conduct some compatibility/regression testing between versions. When I attempt to install 8.5, it suggests there is nothing to install (both product and documentation selections are checked, but disabled, and both show +0MB as needing to be installed).

Is there any way to force setup.exe to install 8.5 concurrently with 8.5.2?

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John O'Keefe-3

Re: How do I install 8.5 along side 8.5.2? [Windows 7]

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Richard -

The Windows Installer is happy to install 8.5.2 over 8.5 because that is an upgrade, but it is not so happy about installing 8.5 over 8.5.2 since that is a regression. Just changing the install directory won't work because the information about which version is installed is kept in the Windows registry.

The most reliable thing to do (that is, the procedure that is most likely to result in you having a complete and uncorrupted install of 8.5 and 8.5.2) is:

Make a backup of your current install directory tree (particularly your development manager).
Uninstall VA Smalltalk 8.5.2 (this should not remove your development manager or any other files you have created or changed, but if it does, you have a backup).
If your development manager is named mgr85.dat, rename it
Install the VA Smalltalk 8.5 Client
Install the VA Smalltalk 8.5 Manager only if your development manager does not contain the 8.5 product code

Use the import tool to merge the content of mgr85.dat into your development manager

Rename the newimage directory to newimage850
Install VA Smalltalk 8.5.2 Client -- if you want both 8.5 and 8.5.2 binaries, bitmaps, etc., you should change the install path to 8.5.2 as Dusty suggested.
Rename the newimage directory to newimage852

You should now be good to go.

John

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:33:46 PM UTC-4, Richard Sargent wrote:

I already have 8.5.2 installed and I need to install 8.5 to conduct some compatibility/regression testing between versions. When I attempt to install 8.5, it suggests there is nothing to install (both product and documentation selections are checked, but disabled, and both show +0MB as needing to be installed).

Is there any way to force setup.exe to install 8.5 concurrently with 8.5.2?

Richard Sargent

Re: How do I install 8.5 along side 8.5.2? [Windows 7]

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On Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:42:45 AM UTC-7, John O'Keefe wrote:

The Windows Installer is happy to install 8.5.2 over 8.5 because that is an upgrade, but it is not so happy about installing 8.5 over 8.5.2 since that is a regression. Just changing the install directory won't work because the information about which version is installed is kept in the Windows registry.

The most reliable thing to do (that is, the procedure that is most likely to result in you having a complete and uncorrupted install of 8.5 and 8.5.2) is:
<snip>

I had already renamed the 8.5.2 directory tree from "8.5" to "8.5.2", so all that was left was to "uninstall" the residue. But because the control panel couldn't find the uninstaller, it failed and offered to remove the program from the list of installed programs, but without cleaning up the registry. (not surprising!)

I found and removed the 8.5.2 vestiges from the registry, and was then able to cleanly install 8.5.
(I admit this is not a recommended approach, nor a recommendable one ... not even a commendable one!)