How to create a minimal image ?

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Re: How to create a minimal image ?

Tudor Girba-2
+1.

Also, there can be different UIs that one might want to choose from (for example, Bloc and Morphic) without having both loaded at the same time.

Cheers,
Doru


> On Aug 31, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> We are talking about **Pharo Core** and we will reduce it even more.
> Then you can load the UI.
> And no UI is not the very essence of Smalltalk.
> You can connect remotely to a live kernel and program it and this is
> still a live system.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> for me Pharo and GUI go hand in hand, I cannot imagine Pharo without GUI. I
>> also despise the command line. Plus once you remove the GUI you kill the
>> very essence of Smalltalk.
>>
>> But if that is what you(you as all people who support this) like and need,
>> that's your choice and I respect that.
>>
>> Even back in the 80s when almost everything was command lines , I was
>> drooling over Amiga's 500 beautiful coloured GUIs. It started my fascination
>> with computer graphics and later 3d graphics and sound.
>>
>> So me and the GUI are very old friends and we go hand in hand :)
>>
>> Of course I understand if we want to go super minimal the GUI has to go
>> together with many other things that make Pharo what it is. But I dont care
>> for such extremes. I just wanted to reduce the fat.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:24 PM Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several
>>> intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image
>>> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI,
>>> BaselineOfBasicTools...)
>>>
>>> -- Pavel
>>>
>>> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I
>>>> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to
>>>>> try to open it this way.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pavel
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra
>>>>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing
>>>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to
>>>>>> use force quit to make it close
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit,
>>>>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek
>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download
>>>>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under name
>>>>>>> Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as
>>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or
>>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Pavel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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