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[Hudson] Jenkins

Marcus Denker-4
Yes!

        https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/

All existing accounts should work, but it is empty right now.

We will test it a bit and then think about how to move all configs there.

This setup has the possibility of defining a "staging" project. This is run as soon as an updated
jenkins is available and on green --> the whole installation updates to the latest jenkins automaticaly.

        Marcus

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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Damien Cassou
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
> We will test it a bit and then think about how to move all configs there.

https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Upgrading+from+Hudson+to+Jenkins

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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Geert Claes
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Hi Marcus, Maybe you could replace the resource images with the attached images - replaced "Jenkins" with "Pharo" :)

Re-branding:

title.png
jenkins.png
topbar.png
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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Tudor Girba-2
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I have done that recently with ci.moosetechnology.org. I just deployed jenkins.war where hudson.war was, changed the script to point to it, and everything was fine.

Cheers,
Doru

On 21 May 2011, at 18:33, Damien Cassou wrote:

> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> We will test it a bit and then think about how to move all configs there.
>
> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Upgrading+from+Hudson+to+Jenkins
>
> --
> Damien Cassou
> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>
> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them
> popular by not having them." James Iry
>

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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Marcus Denker-4
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On May 21, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Geert Claes wrote:

> Hi Marcus, Maybe you could replace the resource images with the attached
> images - replaced "Jenkins" with "Pharo" :)
>

The problem is that this is a company wide installation serving many projects...
Pharo is just one of them.

> Re-branding:
>
> http://forum.world.st/file/n3540934/title.png title.png
> http://forum.world.st/file/n3540934/jenkins.png jenkins.png
> http://forum.world.st/file/n3540934/topbar.png topbar.png
>
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> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hudson-Jenkins-tp3538245p3540934.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Geert Claes
Administrator
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The problem is that this is a company wide installation serving many projects...
Pharo is just one of them.
But everything is Pharo based and even the URL includes "Pharo" does it not?
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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Marcus Denker-4
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On May 22, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Geert Claes wrote:

>
> Marcus Denker-4 wrote:
>>
>> The problem is that this is a company wide installation serving many
>> projects...
>> Pharo is just one of them.
>>
>
> But everything is Pharo based and even the URL includes "Pharo" does it not?
>
Yes, the IT services provide infrastructure that creates Jenkins setups. E.g. we can
request one for RMOD, and there will be one for Rmod.

Yes, we could request them to extend this meta-setup it with changing the look. But the thing is that
this *We* can not do, but the admines would need to do it. And it would be work to provide
a UI for uploading images, checking they are good...

And my feeling is that they have other things that are more important to do (the whole
setup is in test mode...)

Especially we should *use* it before running back and requesting even more changes.
(and unimportant ones, especially)...

It's just not a good idea to do that now.

        Marcus


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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Geert Claes
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
Yes, the IT services provide infrastructure that creates Jenkins setups. E.g. we can
request one for RMOD, and there will be one for Rmod.

Yes, we could request them to extend this meta-setup it with changing the look. But the thing is that
this *We* can not do, but the admines would need to do it. And it would be work to provide
a UI for uploading images, checking they are good...
Provide a UI for uploading images? Say what?

Marcus Denker-4 wrote
And my feeling is that they have other things that are more important to do (the whole
setup is in test mode...)

Especially we should *use* it before running back and requesting even more changes.
(and unimportant ones, especially)...

It's just not a good idea to do that now.

Marcus
Look-and-feel has historically always come in second (except at companies like Apple, even when they were a small) and developers have always defended the *use* first before *look-n-feel*  ... I reckon its bs!

The 3 images attached are exactly the same size and even have the same name for crying out loud.  How hard is it really to replace 3 resource images?

Anyhow, it was just a suggestion do with them what you want :)
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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Marcus Denker-4
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On May 22, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Geert Claes wrote:

>
> Marcus Denker-4 wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the IT services provide infrastructure that creates Jenkins setups.
>> E.g. we can
>> request one for RMOD, and there will be one for Rmod.
>>
>> Yes, we could request them to extend this meta-setup it with changing the
>> look. But the thing is that
>> this *We* can not do, but the admines would need to do it. And it would be
>> work to provide
>> a UI for uploading images, checking they are good...
>>
>
> Provide a UI for uploading images? Say what?
>

There is one *generic* Jenkins for all of INRIA. (a template: request a CI server --> a CI server
is set up. Automatically, configured to look into LDAP for account data, for example).

This is why it took a while to move to Jenkins from Hudson.
Remember, INRIA is not just RMod.

To put into that the possibility of changing the look means to provide a *generic* way that
everyone can modify the look. Whithout manual intervention. This is *work* and this is *not important*.
This combination makes it very unlikely to happen anytime soon.

And really: Is this important enough to even discuss it?

        Marcus



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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Geert Claes
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
And really: Is this important enough to even discuss it?
Of course it is not :)
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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Marcus Denker-4
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>>
>
> There is one *generic* Jenkins for all of INRIA. (a template: request a CI server --> a CI server
> is set up. Automatically, configured to look into LDAP for account data, for example).
>
Maybe to explain it better:

We have *no* shell access to the server that the frontend is running on.

So replacing files in the hudson installation is not possible.

If there is a plugin for changing the logo, we can use that. If it means relacing files on disk, we
can not do that.

        Marcus

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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Geert Claes
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No no, I have heard about these network admin nazi's and I feel for you :)

Just forget my suggestion, branding and marketing have never really been Smalltalk's problem ;)
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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Marcus Denker-4
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On May 22, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Geert Claes wrote:

> No no, I have heard about these network admin nazi's and I feel for you :)
>

Either we use existing infrastructure, or we don't.

Honestly, I did not ask them if it's possible to change the logo because *at this point*
I would feel silly to do so.

There are more important things to do now. Really.  For example *using* the Jenkins
setup. This will not happen by itself. I can either burn my time changing Logos, or I can
do it doing things that are important.

> Just forget my suggestion, branding and marketing have never really been
> Smalltalk's problem ;)
>
Yes, Pharo will fail because the Jenkins shows the Jenkins Logo.

        Marcus

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Re: [Hudson] Jenkins

Stéphane Ducasse
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On May 22, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Geert Claes wrote:

> No no, I have heard about these network admin nazi's and I feel for you :)

I would not call them like that because in the past I faced annoying admin complaining
about my image files... and the guys at inria are all except that.

The problem is not that they do not want but they got 3 guys on the 5 of the team
leaving or redispatch doing different things.
In addition they always try to do their best but INRIA is not a university kind of set up
but a ministry of defense classified building and they take care of our servers.

So we just follow their process and are happy. In october there will be an engineer only
working on maintaining hudson infrastructure and this is a really great news.


> Just forget my suggestion, branding and marketing have never really been
> Smalltalk's problem ;)
>
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> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hudson-Jenkins-tp3538245p3541778.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>