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EstebanLM

I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM

Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.

Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,

Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the short term as is… please do not point to that :)

Esteban

On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

Denis Kudriashov

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

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And what the link? https://dl.bintray.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/?

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

Pavel Krivanek-3

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

itimer version?

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

Thierry Goubier

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work without segfaults from the command line).

Thierry

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

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On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:11, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote:

itimer version?

both :)

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

Tudor Girba-2

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

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Hi,

To accommodate the need to work with OSWindows, I suggest to create a custom download with the current stable so that we can work on OSWindows until the latest gets fixed. What do you think?

Cheers,
Doru

> On Jan 24, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the short term as is… please do not point to that :)
>
> Esteban
>
>> On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>>
>> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>>
>> I have this issues in mind:
>>
>> No write right on Windows with the new VM
>> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
>> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
>>
>> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Esteban
>

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EstebanLM

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

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On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]> wrote:

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work without segfaults from the command line).

- yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable

- and without reports, I cannot take action ;)

- compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not updated... and in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to stable :P

Esteban

Thierry

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

Thierry Goubier

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

2017-01-24 11:56 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]> wrote:

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work without segfaults from the command line).

- yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable
- and without reports, I cannot take action ;)

I did report two months ago, to no effect nor answer.

- compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not updated... and in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to stable :P

I'm trying to look through your travis setup to find out how things should be done. Is not working too well yet.

The 32bits version looks fine.

Regards,

Thierry

Esteban

Thierry

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

Torsten Bergmann

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

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HI Esteban,

can you be more specific what the problem with "OSWindows" is?

I guess you refer to my project "OSWindows" which is in Catalog and in http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/
and belongs to my operating system series (OSWindows, OSLinuxUbuntu, OSUnix, OSOSX, OSRaspbian, ...) which

is about wrapping native APIs and providing easier Pharo work on the different platforms.

Each aspect of this project is covered by unit tests and it should be possible to find out what the problem is.

If you remember it was a good testbed to find issues in UFFI.

But maybe you refer to another project. Because there is also an "OSWindow" (without "s") project done later by Ronie
Salgado which is about accessing a platform window from Pharo. This one is at: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OSWindow

Still I wished that Ronie would have choosen a different name as this is now often very confusing
to people to distinguish between "OSWindows" and "OSWindow". "NativeWindow" or something like that
would have been better for what it is all about...

Thanks

Torsten

Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2017 um 10:58 Uhr
Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the short term as is… please do not point to that :)

Esteban

On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM

Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.

Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,

Esteban

Tudor Girba-2

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

Hi,

Esteban and I are referring to OS-Window (the graphical component).

Cheers,
Doru

> On Jan 24, 2017, at 1:00 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> HI Esteban,
>
> can you be more specific what the problem with "OSWindows" is?
>
> I guess you refer to my project "OSWindows" which is in Catalog and in http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/
> and belongs to my operating system series (OSWindows, OSLinuxUbuntu, OSUnix, OSOSX, OSRaspbian, ...) which
> is about wrapping native APIs and providing easier Pharo work on the different platforms.
> Each aspect of this project is covered by unit tests and it should be possible to find out what the problem is.
> If you remember it was a good testbed to find issues in UFFI.
>
> But maybe you refer to another project. Because there is also an "OSWindow" (without "s") project done later by Ronie
> Salgado which is about accessing a platform window from Pharo. This one is at: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OSWindow
>
> Still I wished that Ronie would have choosen a different name as this is now often very confusing
> to people to distinguish between "OSWindows" and "OSWindow". "NativeWindow" or something like that
> would have been better for what it is all about...
>
> Thanks
> Torsten
>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2017 um 10:58 Uhr
> Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
> An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !
> btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the short term as is… please do not point to that :)
>
> Esteban
>
> On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).
>
> And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you
>
> I have this issues in mind:
>
> No write right on Windows with the new VM
> Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
> Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows
>
> … but also anything else that I might be missing.
>
> cheers,
> Esteban

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philippeback

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

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I am going to do some 64 bit in the coming weeks as I need to wrap a 64 bit library using UnifiedFFI.

Phil

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]> wrote:

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work without segfaults from the command line).

- yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable
- and without reports, I cannot take action ;)
- compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not updated... and in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to stable :P

Esteban

Thierry

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

philippeback

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

In reply to this post by Torsten Bergmann

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

HI Esteban,

can you be more specific what the problem with "OSWindows" is?

I guess you refer to my project "OSWindows" which is in Catalog and in http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/
and belongs to my operating system series (OSWindows, OSLinuxUbuntu, OSUnix, OSOSX, OSRaspbian, ...) which

is about wrapping native APIs and providing easier Pharo work on the different platforms.

Each aspect of this project is covered by unit tests and it should be possible to find out what the problem is.

If you remember it was a good testbed to find issues in UFFI.

But maybe you refer to another project. Because there is also an "OSWindow" (without "s") project done later by Ronie
Salgado which is about accessing a platform window from Pharo. This one is at: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/OSWindow

Still I wished that Ronie would have choosen a different name as this is now often very confusing
to people to distinguish between "OSWindows" and "OSWindow". "NativeWindow" or something like that
would have been better for what it is all about...

What about "HostWindow"?

Phil

Thanks

Torsten

Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2017 um 10:58 Uhr
Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

btw… I’m aware of the OSWindows problems, but that’s not solvable in the short term as is… please do not point to that :)

Esteban

On 24 Jan 2017, at 10:57, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM

Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.

Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,

Esteban

philippeback

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

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I also have has issues with FT fonts that were not named the same on various boxes.

For example, the Hack font installed a few months ago on one machine had names like "Hack-Oblique.ttf" and are not named like "Hack-Italic.ttf" on the new installs. So, there is a primitive error showing up and blocking the image.

Not saying that is the cause of other troubles but there should be a way to switch back to in image fonts if such a case arises.

This for sure caused me a few headaches.

Phil

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

In reply to this post by philippeback

On 24 Jan 2017, at 13:34, [hidden email] wrote:

I am going to do some 64 bit in the coming weeks as I need to wrap a 64 bit library using UnifiedFFI.

I’m working right now on having FFI-Kernel to work (the backend), because there are some problems with it.

UFFI *should* be working right after (I already made the parts I think are needed on that side).

but VM 64bits + UFFI will need testing phase… maybe your bindings would be a good starting point :)

Esteban

Phil

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 24 Jan 2017, at 11:12, Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]> wrote:

2017-01-24 10:57 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

I can report that the linux 64bits version segfault for me. And that I have a hard time compiling it from source (but at least I could get it to work without segfaults from the command line).

- yes… sadly 64bit still will not reach stable
- and without reports, I cannot take action ;)
- compiling is not harder than before, just instructions are not updated... and in any case, that’s not a problem with moving latest to stable :P

Esteban

Thierry

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: I want to move the latest vm to stable... I need feedback !

In reply to this post by philippeback

On 24 Jan 2017, at 13:39, [hidden email] wrote:

I also have has issues with FT fonts that were not named the same on various boxes.

For example, the Hack font installed a few months ago on one machine had names like "Hack-Oblique.ttf" and are not named like "Hack-Italic.ttf" on the new installs. So, there is a primitive error showing up and blocking the image.

Not saying that is the cause of other troubles but there should be a way to switch back to in image fonts if such a case arises.

This for sure caused me a few headaches.

yep, but this is not a VM issue.

In this case is correct that primitive fails… is just that FT2 image side doesn’t know how to manage the problem :(

So we need an issue with this, but I wouldn’t say is a blocking point to move latest to stable.

Esteban

Phil

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi guys,

I want to move latest vm to stable (for Pharo 6.0, of course).

And I have the idea there are still some blocking issues… can you

I have this issues in mind:

No write right on Windows with the new VM
Freetype2 primitive failed [error 2][unknown file format] -> for this I’m testing the solution pointed here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/post/289, plus a fix Phil sent me.
Image freezes on Linux if it was previously saved on Windows

… but also anything else that I might be missing.

cheers,
Esteban