I18N these days

Hi Georg,

Georg wrote:
>seaBreeze which is a well-known extension to Seaside comes with Internationalization pre-built in and specially
>for you with German translations.

I know it - unfortunately the direct download is gone. :(

No need for german on my side, does SeaBreeze support Bidi (RTL/LTR)?

>It ships with VisualWorks 7.10

Thanks - but installing VW just for a short look is overkill. Why was it removed?
 
I guess it uses some I18N stuff from VW anyway and I'm running on Pharo.

I can not use SeaBreeze for various reasons - one is that I want to have a "fresh look"
with my http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/Bootstrap project (which could be
interesting to modernize seaBreeze UI too and should be easy to port to VW if you like)

I found https://code.google.com/p/seaside/wiki/Gettext so far - but wanted to see what others
use these days to easily support I18N in Seaside.

Thx
T.





 
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Hi Torsten

We use Gettext and Seaside-Gettext.

It does the job, though we are looking to extend it with strings that include variables (e.g. 'Welcome %s, today is a good day'). Right now, we just concatenate strings but that does not work very well.
If anyone has already such a solution working with Gettext, I would be happy to know about it.

But it should not be difficult to add.

Johan

On 18 Oct 2013, at 08:53, "Torsten Bergmann" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I found https://code.google.com/p/seaside/wiki/Gettext so far - but wanted to see what others
> use these days to easily support I18N in Seaside.

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On Fri, 18 Oct 2013, Johan Brichau wrote:

> Hi Torsten
>
> We use Gettext and Seaside-Gettext.
>
> It does the job, though we are looking to extend it with strings that include variables (e.g. 'Welcome %s, today is a good day'). Right now, we just concatenate strings but that does not work very well.

I suggest you to use numbered parameters. We use #format: after
translation, and it works well. The reason why numbered parameters are
better is that the order of words can be very different in some languages,
and swapping {1} with {2} is possible, while swapping %s with %s makes no
sense :).


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On 19 Oct 2013, at 00:20, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I suggest you to use numbered parameters. We use #format: after translation, and it works well. The reason why numbered parameters are better is that the order of words can be very different in some languages,
> and swapping {1} with {2} is possible, while swapping %s with %s makes no sense :).

Indeed. This works very well and there is no need to add anything to Gettext for that.

Thanks for pointing that out. This is so obvious I wonder why I never saw it ;-)

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Torsten wrote:
>I found https://code.google.com/p/seaside/wiki/Gettext so far - but wanted to see what others
>use these days to easily support I18N in Seaside.

I find doing things in image like demoed in QCMagritte to be much easier.
And then just import/export csv.

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