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Natalia Tymchuk
Hello.
I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?

Best regards,
Natalia
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Re: Interaction in Woden

abergel
I am not sure about this.
In the previous version of Roassal3D we had this. In the version based on Woden we do not have it.

Give me a bit of time to evaluate this. Having popup is essential.

Which highlighting do you need?

Alexandre
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> On May 12, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
> Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?
>
> Best regards,
> Natalia
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Re: Interaction in Woden

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I think that some roassal parts can be unified both to reduce the code publication and define some kind of common interface.

For example there there are mouse and key event classes for RT, R3, RW, they can be unified, as they have nothing special to do with the different frameworks. Also the Traits with a common protocol can be introduced. Despite the different implementations all elements should understand #translateTo: for example. Having this defined in a trait as an explicit requirement can help to have a clearer view on the design. Because despite being similar, all roassal versions implement different protocols, and I think that this is not because of design decisions, but because someone needed that specific shortcut/functionality while developing in a certain version of roassal.

Uko

> On 12 May 2015, at 18:48, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I am not sure about this.
> In the previous version of Roassal3D we had this. In the version based on Woden we do not have it.
>
> Give me a bit of time to evaluate this. Having popup is essential.
>
> Which highlighting do you need?
>
> Alexandre
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>
>
>> On May 12, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>> I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
>> Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Natalia
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Re: Interaction in Woden

Natalia Tymchuk
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I want to be able to highlight an element with a desired color when hovering over it. In general I need this:

el @    (RTPopup new text: #rmozaikLabel)
el @ (RTHighlightable new highlightedColor: (Color red alpha: 0.3)).
el @ (RTMenuActivable new
                        action: #inspect;
                        item: 'browse class' action: [ :e | e model browse ]).

Kind regards,
Natalia

> On 12 May 2015, at 18:48, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I am not sure about this.
> In the previous version of Roassal3D we had this. In the version based on Woden we do not have it.
>
> Give me a bit of time to evaluate this. Having popup is essential.
>
> Which highlighting do you need?
>
> Alexandre
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>
>
>> On May 12, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>> I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
>> Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Natalia
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Re: Interaction in Woden

abergel
Hi Natalia,

In the last version of Woden, you will find the popup and the highlight. Consider the following example:

=-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=
        v := RWView new.
        es := ((RWCube new size: 1)) elementsOn: (1 to: 16).
        es @ RWPopup.
        es @ (RWHighlightable highlight: [ :vv | | arr |
               
                arr := OrderedCollection new.
                arr add: vv - 1.
                arr add: vv.
                arr add: vv + 1.
                arr add: vv - 4.
                arr add: vv + 4.
                arr]).

        RWXYGridLayout on: es.
        v addAll: es.
        v
=-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=

Let us know how it goes!

Cheers,
Alexandre
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> On May 12, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I want to be able to highlight an element with a desired color when hovering over it. In general I need this:
>
> el @    (RTPopup new text: #rmozaikLabel)
> el @ (RTHighlightable new highlightedColor: (Color red alpha: 0.3)).
> el @ (RTMenuActivable new
> action: #inspect;
> item: 'browse class' action: [ :e | e model browse ]).
>
> Kind regards,
> Natalia
>
>> On 12 May 2015, at 18:48, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure about this.
>> In the previous version of Roassal3D we had this. In the version based on Woden we do not have it.
>>
>> Give me a bit of time to evaluate this. Having popup is essential.
>>
>> Which highlighting do you need?
>>
>> Alexandre
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 12, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>> I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
>>> Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Natalia
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Re: Interaction in Woden

abergel
In reply to this post by Uko2
Hi Yuriy!

I see your point, and it does make sense. We will seeā€¦ We started to reuse code

Cheers,
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On May 12, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

I think that some roassal parts can be unified both to reduce the code publication and define some kind of common interface.

For example there there are mouse and key event classes for RT, R3, RW, they can be unified, as they have nothing special to do with the different frameworks. Also the Traits with a common protocol can be introduced. Despite the different implementations all elements should understand #translateTo: for example. Having this defined in a trait as an explicit requirement can help to have a clearer view on the design. Because despite being similar, all roassal versions implement different protocols, and I think that this is not because of design decisions, but because someone needed that specific shortcut/functionality while developing in a certain version of roassal.

Uko

On 12 May 2015, at 18:48, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

I am not sure about this.
In the previous version of Roassal3D we had this. In the version based on Woden we do not have it.

Give me a bit of time to evaluate this. Having popup is essential.

Which highlighting do you need?

Alexandre
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On May 12, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello.
I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?

Best regards,
Natalia
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Re: Interaction in Woden

Natalia Tymchuk
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It is really nice, but you forgot to add to WDColor the method #asWDColor.
By the way are you planning to add menu like it was in roassal
        el@(RTMenuActivable new
        action: #inspect;
        item: 'browse class' action: [ :e | e model browse ]).

Best regards,
Natalia
 

> On 13 May 2015, at 03:38, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Natalia,
>
> In the last version of Woden, you will find the popup and the highlight. Consider the following example:
>
> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=
> v := RWView new.
> es := ((RWCube new size: 1)) elementsOn: (1 to: 16).
> es @ RWPopup.
> es @ (RWHighlightable highlight: [ :vv | | arr |
>
> arr := OrderedCollection new.
> arr add: vv - 1.
> arr add: vv.
> arr add: vv + 1.
> arr add: vv - 4.
> arr add: vv + 4.
> arr]).
>
> RWXYGridLayout on: es.
> v addAll: es.
> v
> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=
>
> Let us know how it goes!
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
> --
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
>
>> On May 12, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I want to be able to highlight an element with a desired color when hovering over it. In general I need this:
>>
>> el @    (RTPopup new text: #rmozaikLabel)
>> el @ (RTHighlightable new highlightedColor: (Color red alpha: 0.3)).
>> el @ (RTMenuActivable new
>> action: #inspect;
>> item: 'browse class' action: [ :e | e model browse ]).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Natalia
>>
>>> On 12 May 2015, at 18:48, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not sure about this.
>>> In the previous version of Roassal3D we had this. In the version based on Woden we do not have it.
>>>
>>> Give me a bit of time to evaluate this. Having popup is essential.
>>>
>>> Which highlighting do you need?
>>>
>>> Alexandre
>>> --
>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 12, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello.
>>>> I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
>>>> Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Natalia
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>
>>>
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Re: Interaction in Woden

abergel
> It is really nice, but you forgot to add to WDColor the method #asWDColor.

Strange, it is defined in Woden-Core. Do you see it?

> By the way are you planning to add menu like it was in roassal
> el@(RTMenuActivable new
> action: #inspect;
> item: 'browse class' action: [ :e | e model browse ]).

I have just included this:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
classes := RTObject withAllSubclasses.
v := RWView new.
n := RTMultiLinearColorForIdentity new objects: classes.
shape := RWUVSphere new size: [ :c | (c numberOfMethods / 100) + 1 ] ; color: [ :cls | (n rtValue: cls) asWDColor ].
es := shape elementsOn: classes.
es @ (RWMenuActivable new action: #inspect; item: 'browse class' action: [ :e | e model browse ]).
v addAll: es.
RWCubeLayout on: es.
v
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

You need to update Woden-Roassal.
Let us know how it goes

Cheers,
Alexandre


>
> Best regards,
> Natalia
>
>> On 13 May 2015, at 03:38, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Natalia,
>>
>> In the last version of Woden, you will find the popup and the highlight. Consider the following example:
>>
>> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=
>> v := RWView new.
>> es := ((RWCube new size: 1)) elementsOn: (1 to: 16).
>> es @ RWPopup.
>> es @ (RWHighlightable highlight: [ :vv | | arr |
>>
>> arr := OrderedCollection new.
>> arr add: vv - 1.
>> arr add: vv.
>> arr add: vv + 1.
>> arr add: vv - 4.
>> arr add: vv + 4.
>> arr]).
>>
>> RWXYGridLayout on: es.
>> v addAll: es.
>> v
>> =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=
>>
>> Let us know how it goes!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 12, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to be able to highlight an element with a desired color when hovering over it. In general I need this:
>>>
>>> el @    (RTPopup new text: #rmozaikLabel)
>>> el @ (RTHighlightable new highlightedColor: (Color red alpha: 0.3)).
>>> el @ (RTMenuActivable new
>>> action: #inspect;
>>> item: 'browse class' action: [ :e | e model browse ]).
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Natalia
>>>
>>>> On 12 May 2015, at 18:48, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure about this.
>>>> In the previous version of Roassal3D we had this. In the version based on Woden we do not have it.
>>>>
>>>> Give me a bit of time to evaluate this. Having popup is essential.
>>>>
>>>> Which highlighting do you need?
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
>>>> --
>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 12, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Natalia Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>> I started to work with Woden. Unfortunately I cannot find the interaction I need.
>>>>> Does RWoden has the interaction as popup, highlighting and menu activating?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Natalia
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: Interaction in Woden

Natalia Tymchuk
Hi.
I found strange behavior of interaction. After rotating the camera highlighting is not working until I press one of movement keys. It can be seen on this example:


classes := RTObject withAllSubclasses.
v := RWView new.
n := RTMultiLinearColorForIdentity new objects: classes.
shape := RWUVSphere new size: [ :c | (c numberOfMethods / 100) + 1 ] ; color: [ :cls | (n rtValue: cls) asWDColor ].
es := shape elementsOn: classes.
es @ (RWHighlightable new highlightedColor: (Color red)).
v addAll: es.
RWCubeLayout on: es.
v

Also sometimes for my system highlighting works wrong - it highlights only some pieces. But, I cannot reproduce this with example. Does anybody know what is the problem and how to fix it?




Best regards,
Natalia

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Re: Interaction in Woden

abergel
Hi Natalia,

> I found strange behavior of interaction. After rotating the camera highlighting is not working until I press one of movement keys.

This is due to a change I introduced a couple of days ago in order to reduce the CPU load. I have a pretty good idea on how to fix this. Give me a few days (I am traveling right now).

Alexandre



> It can be seen on this example:
>
>
> classes := RTObject withAllSubclasses.
> v := RWView new.
> n := RTMultiLinearColorForIdentity new objects: classes.
> shape := RWUVSphere new size: [ :c | (c numberOfMethods / 100) + 1 ] ; color: [ :cls | (n rtValue: cls) asWDColor ].
> es := shape elementsOn: classes.
> es @ (RWHighlightable new highlightedColor: (Color red)).
> v addAll: es.
> RWCubeLayout on: es.
> v
>
> Also sometimes for my system highlighting works wrong - it highlights only some pieces. But, I cannot reproduce this with example. Does anybody know what is the problem and how to fix it?
>
>
> <Screen Shot 2015-05-25 at 22.39.17.png><Screen Shot 2015-05-26 at 07.39.35.png>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Natalia
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Re: Interaction in Woden

Natalia Tymchuk
Hi, Alex.
Thanks. Enjoy your trip)

Best regards,
Natalia

> On 29 May 2015, at 17:32, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Natalia,
>
>> I found strange behavior of interaction. After rotating the camera highlighting is not working until I press one of movement keys.
>
> This is due to a change I introduced a couple of days ago in order to reduce the CPU load. I have a pretty good idea on how to fix this. Give me a few days (I am traveling right now).
>
> Alexandre
>
>
>
>> It can be seen on this example:
>>
>>
>> classes := RTObject withAllSubclasses.
>> v := RWView new.
>> n := RTMultiLinearColorForIdentity new objects: classes.
>> shape := RWUVSphere new size: [ :c | (c numberOfMethods / 100) + 1 ] ; color: [ :cls | (n rtValue: cls) asWDColor ].
>> es := shape elementsOn: classes.
>> es @ (RWHighlightable new highlightedColor: (Color red)).
>> v addAll: es.
>> RWCubeLayout on: es.
>> v
>>
>> Also sometimes for my system highlighting works wrong - it highlights only some pieces. But, I cannot reproduce this with example. Does anybody know what is the problem and how to fix it?
>>
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2015-05-25 at 22.39.17.png><Screen Shot 2015-05-26 at 07.39.35.png>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Natalia
>> _______________________________________________
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