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Michael van der Gulik
Hi all.

Where is the latest stable version of VMMaker? Is it VMMaker-3.8b6.mcz
from SqueakMap, or VMMaker-tpr-5.mcz (which seems old) from
SqueakSource.com? Or somewhere else?

I see that squeakvm.org has an SVN server, but where do you keep your
Monticello files?

I've got a bug, probably in my code but maybe in the VM, involving
becomeForward:copyHash:. The primitive is failing for no apparant
reason. I plan to try running this code in the InterpreterSimulator to
find exactly why primitive 239 is failing.

Currently I've tried both VMMaker-tpr.58.mcz and VMMaker-3.8b6.mcz, but
the InterpreterSimulator doesn't want to work. I get a DNU, which I
fixed, but then I get another DNU, which I fixed, but then I got
another, so I threw the whole thing away in disgust. I have a bog
standard 32-bit AMD-based PC running Ubuntu.

Mikevdg.

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Michael van der Gulik
Thanks for the quick reply!

It might be useful adding the following information to SqueakVM.org:

- How to find the Squeak-VM mailing list.

- Where the code is and how to get it (i.e. svn://squeakvm.org/... and
SqueakMap).

- How to contribute changes.

Cheers,
Mikevdg.

tim Rowledge wrote:

>
> On 23-Jun-06, at 8:49 PM, Michael van der Gulik wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Where is the latest stable version of VMMaker? Is it  
>> VMMaker-3.8b6.mcz from SqueakMap
>
> Yes
>
>> , or VMMaker-tpr-5.mcz (which seems old) from SqueakSource.com?
>
> No - after a few attempts with squeaksource a long time ago I gave  
> up; not particularly because of any fault but it simply didn't suit  
> my working habits.
>
>> Or somewhere else?
>
> Nope. SM is it.
>
>>
>> I see that squeakvm.org has an SVN server, but where do you keep  
>> your Monticello files?
>
> When the swiki is running (I can't access it right now) search for  
> VMMaker and you should find all the documentation you need. If you  
> don't, let us know what you think it missing and it has a chance of  
> getting improved!
> I don't keep all the MC files publically accessible because  
> intermediate states are normally not usable. Releases on SM are known  
> to have built working VMs on at least two OSs.
>
>>
>> I've got a bug, probably in my code but maybe in the VM, involving  
>> becomeForward:copyHash:. The primitive is failing for no apparant  
>> reason. I plan to try running this code in the InterpreterSimulator  
>> to find exactly why primitive 239 is failing.
>
> The immediate things I can think of involve some checks early in the  
> prim that protect you against catastrophe.
> Comment from ObjectMemory>prepareForwardingTableForBecoming: array1  
> with: array2 twoWay: twoWayFlag
>     "Important note on multiple references to same object  - since
> the  preparation of
>     fwdBlocks is NOT idempotent we get VM crashes if the same object
> is  referenced more
>     than once in such a way as to require multiple fwdBlocks.
>     oop1 forwardBecome: oop1 is ok since only a single fwdBlock is
> needed.
>     oop1 become: oop1 would fail because the second fwdBlock woudl
> not  have the actual object
>     header but rather the mutated ref to the first fwdBlock.
>     Further problems can arise with an array1 or array2 that refer  
> multiply to the same
>     object. This would notbe expected input for programmer writen
> code  but might arise from
>     automatic usage such as in ImageSegment loading.
>     To avoid the simple and rather common case of oop1 become*: oop1,
> we  skip such pairs
>     and simply avoid making fwdBlocks - it is redundant anyway"
>
>>
>> Currently I've tried both VMMaker-tpr.58.mcz and VMMaker-3.8b6.mcz,  
>> but the InterpreterSimulator doesn't want to work.
>
>
> I make no guarantee on the state of InterpreterSimulator. I was under  
> the impression that it was functional in the current version, mostly  
> because of a lot of work Craig did to support his Spoon project. I  
> simply don't have enough spare time to do all the work and the  
> simulator is one area I have to leave for others to worry about.
>
>> I get a DNU, which I fixed, but then I get another DNU, which I  
>> fixed, but then I got another, so I threw the whole thing away in  
>> disgust. I have a bog standard 32-bit AMD-based PC running Ubuntu.
>
> Sometimes you just have to keep bashing those balrogs.
>
> tim
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