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abergel

Is the Roassal easel really useful?

Thanks to the advances of GT, I have my doubt about the usefulness of the easel.

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abergel

Re: Is the Roassal easel really useful?

Maybe we should be able to open a playground with a variable bounds in it (e.g. classGroup).

Alexandre

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Tudor Girba-2

Re: Is the Roassal easel really useful?

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Indeed, I think that the easel is not particularly useful anymore. The only place where it can serve a purpose is for newbies. But, I think the goal would be to remove it.

Doru

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks to the advances of GT, I have my doubt about the usefulness of the easel.

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Re: Is the Roassal easel really useful?

Pay attention that putting all the eggs in the same basket is not a good strategy. Can you access the example and redefined
more elaborated graphs with GT?
I think (and you will see that I'm right) that the focus on scripts is a bad idea in the long term.
We need way to abstract and reuse over scripts. This is why we built telescope.

Stef

Le 25/11/14 14:11, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Indeed, I think that the easel is not particularly useful anymore. The only place where it can serve a purpose is for newbies. But, I think the goal would be to remove it.

Doru

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks to the advances of GT, I have my doubt about the usefulness of the easel.

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Alexandre
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kilon.alios

Re: Is the Roassal easel really useful?

"Thanks to the advances of GT, I have my doubt about the usefulness of the easel."

I have to confess easel is probably my favorite part of the moose image, really interactive and nice and easy to use. I wish every pharo library came with an interactive tutorial like easel. Why you think its no longer necessary ? Which advance in GT replaces easel ?

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abergel

Re: Is the Roassal easel really useful?

You can simply inspect an object (such as a moose group) and start to write a script. You can then enjoy the navigation offered by GT. The easel does not give this.

Alexandre

Le 29-11-2014 à 4:21, kilon alios <[hidden email]> a écrit :

"Thanks to the advances of GT, I have my doubt about the usefulness of the easel."

I have to confess easel is probably my favorite part of the moose image, really interactive and nice and easy to use. I wish every pharo library came with an interactive tutorial like easel. Why you think its no longer necessary ? Which advance in GT replaces easel ?

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Tudor Girba-2

Re: Is the Roassal easel really useful?

Hi,

I now made the Finder play even closer with the Roassal visualizations. You can do as you do in the inspector (including examples).

See here more details:

http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/deep-roassal-integration-in-moose-finder

Cheers,

Doru

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

You can simply inspect an object (such as a moose group) and start to write a script. You can then enjoy the navigation offered by GT. The easel does not give this.

Alexandre

Le 29-11-2014 à 4:21, kilon alios <[hidden email]> a écrit :

"Thanks to the advances of GT, I have my doubt about the usefulness of the easel."

I have to confess easel is probably my favorite part of the moose image, really interactive and nice and easy to use. I wish every pharo library came with an interactive tutorial like easel. Why you think its no longer necessary ? Which advance in GT replaces easel ?

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