Is there another browser ?

I was wondering if there is a browser that

- let me  rename methods
- supports code completion
- generate getters and setters for selected instance variables
- supports refactorings ?

Regards
  Roger

On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Roger Gilliar wrote:

> I was wondering if there is a browser that
>
> - let me  rename methods
> - supports code completion
> - generate getters and setters for selected instance variables
> - supports refactorings ?
>

The browser shipped with 1.4 is very minimal (it is the old SystemBrowser).
This is unfortunate, but there was not any real alternative...

You can load though better browsers:

1) OB. In the Configuration Browser there is a configuration to load it
(this is the browser form 1.3 full)

2) Natilus. This is the browser we will ship by default in the future.
You can load it yourself (There is a config in the Configuration browser).

2.0 will come with Nautilus by default.
You can already play with it here:

        https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo%202.0/job/Pharo-2.0/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Pharo-2.0-one-click.zip

But keep in mind that this is under heavy development.


        Marcus



--
Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

In Pharo 1.4, use the following snippet to load Nautilus:

Gofer new
url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Nautilus';
package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNautilus) perform: #loadRelease.

Please note that I had load failures when loading Nautilus before
loading Seaside. Loading Seaside first caused no problems.

Runar

> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-systembrowser/
> https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Nautilus%201.4/job/Nautilus/
>

Thanks for the hint.  

Just one detail I do not like about Nautilus so far is that the switch between class/instance is done using just one button.

Please note that I had load failures when loading Nautilus before
loading Seaside. Loading Seaside first caused no problems.
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The only problem I had so far was that I'm not able to access my classes that I created with the default browser...

Regards
  Roger

> The only problem I had so far was that I'm not able to access my classes that I created with the default browser...

Ugh. That is weird. The classes you created with the default browser
dont show up in the Nautilus Browser? I never had this issue, can you
reproduce?

--
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

probably just a refresh problem.

Stef

On Apr 30, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

>> The only problem I had so far was that I'm not able to access my
>> classes that I created with the default browser...

i once had something similar: i loaded a package via monticello, did
something strange while or after doing that (forgot what it was), and
one of the loaded objects was not visible in its usual package. i then
found it in _UnpackagedPackage, but the object itself was not visible in
the second pane, only the methods and categories in the third and fourth
pane. the second pane was completely empty.
werner

Thanks for the report if you get a reproducible case we will chase the bug.

Stef

On May 3, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Werner Kassens wrote:

>>> The only problem I had so far was that I'm not able to access my classes that I created with the default browser...
>
> i once had something similar: i loaded a package via monticello, did something strange while or after doing that (forgot what it was), and one of the loaded objects was not visible in its usual package. i then found it in _UnpackagedPackage, but the object itself was not visible in the second pane, only the methods and categories in the third and fourth pane. the second pane was completely empty.
> werner
>

one of the loaded objects was not visible in its usual package. i then
found it in _UnpackagedPackage, but the object itself was not visible in
the second pane, only the methods and categories in the third and fourth
pane. the second pane was completely empty.
==========
That is exactly why I have observed.

Regards
  Roger

> Thanks for the report if you get a reproducible case we will chase the bug.

Hi Stéphane,
i tried but didnt manage to reproduce that case. i also noticed that the
greyed-out objects with Extensions are sometimes in the package itself,
sometimes in the extra part with the yellow M. in my described case half
of the greyed-out objects were in the package, the other half in the
yellow M thing. but i even could not reproduce this behaviour.
i'd like to know what rule uses nautilus to decide where to put those
objects? (i once lost 2 greyed-out objects although the *extension
category was there when i looked at those objects in its original package)

Hi Roger,
i'd probably take a virgin image and load the package where you lost the
object. if the object is there, fine; if not you could send that package
to the list so that the specialists can have a look.

werner