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Alberto Bacchelli
Hi all,

 Why is the issue tracking system sending messages to this mailing list?

Wouldn't it be better to have a second mailing list for issue notifications,
so that moose-dev does not receive so many messages?

We can always discuss here the issues that are worth-discussing,
just by forwarding emails from the "issue notifications" mailing list to here.

Just in my humble opinion.

Alberto
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Re: Issue notifications in the mailing lists

Tudor Girba
Hi Alberto,

This is a development mailing list. The issues are forwarded here because they are worth discussing from a development point of view.

For those that are not interested in the development details, I now created a google group for a user mailing list:
- webpage: http://groups.google.com/group/moose-user-group
- mail address: [hidden email]

Cheers,
Doru


On 7 Feb 2011, at 12:35, Alberto Bacchelli wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Why is the issue tracking system sending messages to this mailing list?
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have a second mailing list for issue notifications,
> so that moose-dev does not receive so many messages?
>
> We can always discuss here the issues that are worth-discussing,
> just by forwarding emails from the "issue notifications" mailing list to here.
>
> Just in my humble opinion.
>
> Alberto
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> [hidden email]
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Re: Issue notifications in the mailing lists

Alexandre Bergel
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I personally like the current setting. You can always filter out the mails you do not want to see

Alexandre



Le 7 févr. 2011 à 06:35, Alberto Bacchelli <[hidden email]> a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> Why is the issue tracking system sending messages to this mailing list?
>
> Wouldn't it be better to have a second mailing list for issue notifications,
> so that moose-dev does not receive so many messages?
>
> We can always discuss here the issues that are worth-discussing,
> just by forwarding emails from the "issue notifications" mailing list to here.
>
> Just in my humble opinion.
>
> Alberto
> _______________________________________________
> Moose-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Re: Issue notifications in the mailing lists

Alberto Bacchelli
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Alexandre and Doru,

 I see your point, and I see many other open source projects mixing
issue notifications with the real development mails,
thus corroborating it.
However, I would say that the best setup would be using two different
mailing lists,
because many of the issue notifications are not informative at all
(e.g., "Issue #x fixed.")
and you get a wrong idea of how much "real" discussion is going on the list.

Other projects, such as ArgoUML adopt the multi lists approach. For
example Argo has these lists:

org.tigris.argouml.announce
org.tigris.argouml.commits
org.tigris.argouml.dev
org.tigris.argouml.issues
org.tigris.argouml.modules-dev
org.tigris.argouml.users

I've seen development mailing lists without discussions but with 2000
emails per month
generated only by the issue tracking system. If this will be the case
with moose-dev,
(and many of the emails are really generated by the issue tracker) I
would try to consider
something different from mailing lists to coordinate.

In any case, this is my opinion, and it's up to you to decide.
Of course, I can always filter emails out ;)

Thanks for reading.

Cheers,
 Alberto

On 7 February 2011 14:20, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I personally like the current setting. You can always filter out the mails you do not want to see
>
> Alexandre
>
>
>
> Le 7 févr. 2011 à 06:35, Alberto Bacchelli <[hidden email]> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Why is the issue tracking system sending messages to this mailing list?
>>
>> Wouldn't it be better to have a second mailing list for issue notifications,
>> so that moose-dev does not receive so many messages?
>>
>> We can always discuss here the issues that are worth-discussing,
>> just by forwarding emails from the "issue notifications" mailing list to here.
>>
>> Just in my humble opinion.
>>
>> Alberto
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>

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Re: Issue notifications in the mailing lists

Tudor Girba
Hi Alberto,

I understand your concern, but these are all development issues and this list should be about development. Furthermore, the thing is that the traffic is too low to split it even further for development purposes, and when we had it split the tracker was hardly used and we ended up forwarding issues to the mailing list every time. I like the current setup better for the current amount of mails.

For issues related to using Moose from a user perspective, now we have the user group mailing list. I think this would do it for the time being.

Cheers,
Doru


On 7 Feb 2011, at 14:35, Alberto Bacchelli wrote:

> Alexandre and Doru,
>
> I see your point, and I see many other open source projects mixing
> issue notifications with the real development mails,
> thus corroborating it.
> However, I would say that the best setup would be using two different
> mailing lists,
> because many of the issue notifications are not informative at all
> (e.g., "Issue #x fixed.")
> and you get a wrong idea of how much "real" discussion is going on the list.
>
> Other projects, such as ArgoUML adopt the multi lists approach. For
> example Argo has these lists:
>
> org.tigris.argouml.announce
> org.tigris.argouml.commits
> org.tigris.argouml.dev
> org.tigris.argouml.issues
> org.tigris.argouml.modules-dev
> org.tigris.argouml.users
>
> I've seen development mailing lists without discussions but with 2000
> emails per month
> generated only by the issue tracking system. If this will be the case
> with moose-dev,
> (and many of the emails are really generated by the issue tracker) I
> would try to consider
> something different from mailing lists to coordinate.
>
> In any case, this is my opinion, and it's up to you to decide.
> Of course, I can always filter emails out ;)
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Cheers,
> Alberto
>
> On 7 February 2011 14:20, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I personally like the current setting. You can always filter out the mails you do not want to see
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 7 févr. 2011 à 06:35, Alberto Bacchelli <[hidden email]> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Why is the issue tracking system sending messages to this mailing list?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be better to have a second mailing list for issue notifications,
>>> so that moose-dev does not receive so many messages?
>>>
>>> We can always discuss here the issues that are worth-discussing,
>>> just by forwarding emails from the "issue notifications" mailing list to here.
>>>
>>> Just in my humble opinion.
>>>
>>> Alberto
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moose-dev mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Moose-dev mailing list
> [hidden email]
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