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Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Andrey Larionov
I'm post an issue
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1173
Looks like call of
    aDisplayText form:
in MorphicUIManage>>composeFormFor: is redundant

Found during trying to run InterpreterSimulator (i realy want to help
improve project).
After i add accessor, i recieve an DNU of ByteSymbol>>coerceTo:sim:

Is any have any idea. Is this method missing in VMMaker package or
removed in Pharo.

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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

David T. Lewis
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:19:51AM +0400, Andrey Larionov wrote:

> I'm post an issue
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1173
> Looks like call of
>     aDisplayText form:
> in MorphicUIManage>>composeFormFor: is redundant
>
> Found during trying to run InterpreterSimulator (i realy want to help
> improve project).
> After i add accessor, i recieve an DNU of ByteSymbol>>coerceTo:sim:
>
> Is any have any idea. Is this method missing in VMMaker package or
> removed in Pharo.

Hi Andrey,

We moved a number of these methods from Pharo (and Squeak) into
the VMMaker package because they are part of the C code generator
for Slang.  They had been left in the image by accident. If you
load the latest VMMaker from SqueakSource, this problem will be
resolved. For background on this, see:

  http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7221

If you need to use an older VMMaker for some reason, I put a change
set on the Mantis report that will let you load the missing methods
(LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs).

Dave


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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Stéphane Ducasse
Hi david

do you have a list of the methods that we should remove from the image?

Stef

On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:19:51AM +0400, Andrey Larionov wrote:
>> I'm post an issue
>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1173
>> Looks like call of
>>    aDisplayText form:
>> in MorphicUIManage>>composeFormFor: is redundant
>>
>> Found during trying to run InterpreterSimulator (i realy want to help
>> improve project).
>> After i add accessor, i recieve an DNU of ByteSymbol>>coerceTo:sim:
>>
>> Is any have any idea. Is this method missing in VMMaker package or
>> removed in Pharo.
>
> Hi Andrey,
>
> We moved a number of these methods from Pharo (and Squeak) into
> the VMMaker package because they are part of the C code generator
> for Slang.  They had been left in the image by accident. If you
> load the latest VMMaker from SqueakSource, this problem will be
> resolved. For background on this, see:
>
>  http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7221
>
> If you need to use an older VMMaker for some reason, I put a change
> set on the Mantis report that will let you load the missing methods
> (LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs).
>
> Dave
>
>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

David T. Lewis
Hi Stef,

I believe you have already done this, so nothing more needs to be
done. In fact I did the VMMaker changes, Mantis bug report, and Squeak
trunk fixes all based on the cleanup that you did for Pharo :)

If you need to double check this, the change set with all of the
methods that got moved is LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs
on the Mantis 7221 page. But I think it is all done now so no worries.

Dave

On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:40:47PM +0200, St?phane Ducasse wrote:

> Hi david
>
> do you have a list of the methods that we should remove from the image?
>
> Stef
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:19:51AM +0400, Andrey Larionov wrote:
> >> I'm post an issue
> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1173
> >> Looks like call of
> >>    aDisplayText form:
> >> in MorphicUIManage>>composeFormFor: is redundant
> >>
> >> Found during trying to run InterpreterSimulator (i realy want to help
> >> improve project).
> >> After i add accessor, i recieve an DNU of ByteSymbol>>coerceTo:sim:
> >>
> >> Is any have any idea. Is this method missing in VMMaker package or
> >> removed in Pharo.
> >
> > Hi Andrey,
> >
> > We moved a number of these methods from Pharo (and Squeak) into
> > the VMMaker package because they are part of the C code generator
> > for Slang.  They had been left in the image by accident. If you
> > load the latest VMMaker from SqueakSource, this problem will be
> > resolved. For background on this, see:
> >
> >  http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7221
> >
> > If you need to use an older VMMaker for some reason, I put a change
> > set on the Mantis report that will let you load the missing methods
> > (LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs).
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pharo-project mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>
>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Andrey Larionov
I recive this error (DNU Object>>coerceTo: sim:) on latest VMMaker

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 18:50, David T. Lewis<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Stef,
>
> I believe you have already done this, so nothing more needs to be
> done. In fact I did the VMMaker changes, Mantis bug report, and Squeak
> trunk fixes all based on the cleanup that you did for Pharo :)
>
> If you need to double check this, the change set with all of the
> methods that got moved is LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs
> on the Mantis 7221 page. But I think it is all done now so no worries.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:40:47PM +0200, St?phane Ducasse wrote:
>> Hi david
>>
>> do you have a list of the methods that we should remove from the image?
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:19:51AM +0400, Andrey Larionov wrote:
>> >> I'm post an issue
>> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1173
>> >> Looks like call of
>> >>    aDisplayText form:
>> >> in MorphicUIManage>>composeFormFor: is redundant
>> >>
>> >> Found during trying to run InterpreterSimulator (i realy want to help
>> >> improve project).
>> >> After i add accessor, i recieve an DNU of ByteSymbol>>coerceTo:sim:
>> >>
>> >> Is any have any idea. Is this method missing in VMMaker package or
>> >> removed in Pharo.
>> >
>> > Hi Andrey,
>> >
>> > We moved a number of these methods from Pharo (and Squeak) into
>> > the VMMaker package because they are part of the C code generator
>> > for Slang.  They had been left in the image by accident. If you
>> > load the latest VMMaker from SqueakSource, this problem will be
>> > resolved. For background on this, see:
>> >
>> >  http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7221
>> >
>> > If you need to use an older VMMaker for some reason, I put a change
>> > set on the Mantis report that will let you load the missing methods
>> > (LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs).
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Pharo-project mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
>>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

David T. Lewis
I'm sorry, I did not read your original posting carefully enough. The
classes that implement coerceTo:sim: are Integer, Array, Bitmap, CArray,
and CObjectAccessor. So I do not know what the problem is in this case.
Sorry for the confusion.

Dave

On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 07:10:28PM +0400, Andrey Larionov wrote:

> I recive this error (DNU Object>>coerceTo: sim:) on latest VMMaker
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 18:50, David T. Lewis<[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi Stef,
> >
> > I believe you have already done this, so nothing more needs to be
> > done. In fact I did the VMMaker changes, Mantis bug report, and Squeak
> > trunk fixes all based on the cleanup that you did for Pharo :)
> >
> > If you need to double check this, the change set with all of the
> > methods that got moved is LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs
> > on the Mantis 7221 page. But I think it is all done now so no worries.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:40:47PM +0200, St?phane Ducasse wrote:
> >> Hi david
> >>
> >> do you have a list of the methods that we should remove from the image?
> >>
> >> Stef
> >>
> >> On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 04:19:51AM +0400, Andrey Larionov wrote:
> >> >> I'm post an issue
> >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1173
> >> >> Looks like call of
> >> >> ? ?aDisplayText form:
> >> >> in MorphicUIManage>>composeFormFor: is redundant
> >> >>
> >> >> Found during trying to run InterpreterSimulator (i realy want to help
> >> >> improve project).
> >> >> After i add accessor, i recieve an DNU of ByteSymbol>>coerceTo:sim:
> >> >>
> >> >> Is any have any idea. Is this method missing in VMMaker package or
> >> >> removed in Pharo.
> >> >
> >> > Hi Andrey,
> >> >
> >> > We moved a number of these methods from Pharo (and Squeak) into
> >> > the VMMaker package because they are part of the C code generator
> >> > for Slang. ?They had been left in the image by accident. If you
> >> > load the latest VMMaker from SqueakSource, this problem will be
> >> > resolved. For background on this, see:
> >> >
> >> > ?http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7221
> >> >
> >> > If you need to use an older VMMaker for some reason, I put a change
> >> > set on the Mantis report that will let you load the missing methods
> >> > (LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs).
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Pharo-project mailing list
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
> >>
> >>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Stéphane Ducasse
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On Sep 5, 2009, at 4:50 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:

> Hi Stef,
>
> I believe you have already done this, so nothing more needs to be
> done. In fact I did the VMMaker changes, Mantis bug report, and Squeak
> trunk fixes all based on the cleanup that you did for Pharo :)

:)

Yes I remember now cleaning a lot of that.
Somehow I'm sad that squeak did not move before we started because it
would have avoided to lose a lot of time.
People may think that we did pharo for fun but noone like me wrote 2  
books on
squeak, and did so many squeak presentation, teaching material...
anyway now we will continue pharo because it deserves its own flow.

> If you need to double check this, the change set with all of the
> methods that got moved is LeftoverMethodsMoveToVMMaker-dtl-M7221.2.cs
> on the Mantis 7221 page. But I think it is all done now so no worries.
>


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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Stéphane Ducasse
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Let us know if you find and we need to react in pharo.

Stef

On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:16 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:

> I'm sorry, I did not read your original posting carefully enough. The
> classes that implement coerceTo:sim: are Integer, Array, Bitmap,  
> CArray,
> and CObjectAccessor. So I do not know what the problem is in this  
> case.
> Sorry for the confusion.


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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Andrey Larionov
I attach screenshot of debugger to better understanding of context
(why not provide in debuger an stacktrace exporter, or i miss
somthing?)


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 20:53, Stéphane Ducasse<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Let us know if you find and we need to react in pharo.
>
> Stef
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:16 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry, I did not read your original posting carefully enough. The
>> classes that implement coerceTo:sim: are Integer, Array, Bitmap,
>> CArray,
>> and CObjectAccessor. So I do not know what the problem is in this
>> case.
>> Sorry for the confusion.
>
>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Stéphane Ducasse
I do not know the answer but this would be great to get the  
interpreter back on track.

Stef

On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Andrey Larionov wrote:

> I attach screenshot of debugger to better understanding of context
> (why not provide in debuger an stacktrace exporter, or i miss
> somthing?)
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 20:53, Stéphane Ducasse<[hidden email]
> > wrote:
>> Let us know if you find and we need to react in pharo.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:16 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry, I did not read your original posting carefully enough.  
>>> The
>>> classes that implement coerceTo:sim: are Integer, Array, Bitmap,
>>> CArray,
>>> and CObjectAccessor. So I do not know what the problem is in this
>>> case.
>>> Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Adrian Lienhard
Hi Andrey,

I once made the interpreter simulator work in 3.9 and posted my  
changes to http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6555

In there I fixed the method that you are missing as follows:

!ByteSymbol methodsFor: '*VMMaker' stamp: 'al 7/23/2007 10:17'!
coerceTo: cTypeString sim: interpreter
        ^self! !

You may also need to check the other fixes in the Mantis issue.

Please report back how it works and what changes you needed so that we  
can integrate what is missing in Pharo and suggest changes to David  
for the VMMaker package.

Cheers,
Adrian

BTW, a stack trace is written to a file in the directory where your  
image is located.


On Sep 5, 2009, at 19:35 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> I do not know the answer but this would be great to get the
> interpreter back on track.
>
> Stef
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Andrey Larionov wrote:
>
>> I attach screenshot of debugger to better understanding of context
>> (why not provide in debuger an stacktrace exporter, or i miss
>> somthing?)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 20:53, Stéphane Ducasse<[hidden email]
>>> wrote:
>>> Let us know if you find and we need to react in pharo.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:16 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, I did not read your original posting carefully enough.
>>>> The
>>>> classes that implement coerceTo:sim: are Integer, Array, Bitmap,
>>>> CArray,
>>>> and CObjectAccessor. So I do not know what the problem is in this
>>>> case.
>>>> Sorry for the confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

David T. Lewis
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 07:53:30PM +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote:

> Hi Andrey,
>
> I once made the interpreter simulator work in 3.9 and posted my  
> changes to http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6555
>
> In there I fixed the method that you are missing as follows:
>
> !ByteSymbol methodsFor: '*VMMaker' stamp: 'al 7/23/2007 10:17'!
> coerceTo: cTypeString sim: interpreter
> ^self! !
>
> You may also need to check the other fixes in the Mantis issue.
>
> Please report back how it works and what changes you needed so that we  
> can integrate what is missing in Pharo and suggest changes to David  
> for the VMMaker package.

Thanks, that would be very helpful. I just reassigned Mantis 6555 to
myself, and I'll be happy to add any VMMaker changes.

Dave


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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Andrey Larionov
Thanks, Guys. I'll try it later.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:07, David T. Lewis<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks, that would be very helpful. I just reassigned Mantis 6555 to
> myself, and I'll be happy to add any VMMaker changes.

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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Andrey Larionov
I'm file in Fixes from Mantis, and move on, but there is another error
occured. Im attach log for clarifiacation.
Now i'm dive into interpreter and try to understand why it happend.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:10, Andrey Larionov<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks, Guys. I'll try it later.
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:07, David T. Lewis<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thanks, that would be very helpful. I just reassigned Mantis 6555 to
>> myself, and I'll be happy to add any VMMaker changes.
>

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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Adrian Lienhard
Without looking at the VMMaker code I guess that this is a DNU of the  
message between:and: (the currentClass in lookupMethodClass: has  
pointer 4, which is the nil object, so it seems the lookup failed). To  
debug this, I would look what the receiver class is (i.e., 1171660)  
and then why it does not understand this message. BTW, do you also use  
Pharo as the image to simulate?

Cheers,
Adrian

On Sep 5, 2009, at 23:28 , Andrey Larionov wrote:

> I'm file in Fixes from Mantis, and move on, but there is another error
> occured. Im attach log for clarifiacation.
> Now i'm dive into interpreter and try to understand why it happend.
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:10, Andrey Larionov<[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> Thanks, Guys. I'll try it later.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:07, David T. Lewis<[hidden email]>  
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks, that would be very helpful. I just reassigned Mantis 6555 to
>>> myself, and I'll be happy to add any VMMaker changes.
>>
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Re: Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

Andrey Larionov
Yes, i'm using pharo.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 14:35, Adrian Lienhard<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Without looking at the VMMaker code I guess that this is a DNU of the
> message between:and: (the currentClass in lookupMethodClass: has
> pointer 4, which is the nil object, so it seems the lookup failed). To
> debug this, I would look what the receiver class is (i.e., 1171660)
> and then why it does not understand this message. BTW, do you also use
> Pharo as the image to simulate?
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 23:28 , Andrey Larionov wrote:
>
>> I'm file in Fixes from Mantis, and move on, but there is another error
>> occured. Im attach log for clarifiacation.
>> Now i'm dive into interpreter and try to understand why it happend.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:10, Andrey Larionov<[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Guys. I'll try it later.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:07, David T. Lewis<[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, that would be very helpful. I just reassigned Mantis 6555 to
>>>> myself, and I'll be happy to add any VMMaker changes.
>>>
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