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Issues with the new Mondrian Easel

abergel
Hi!

I found the new easel often quite problematic. Here is a list of issues I have found:

- Time to time, pressing Ctrl-s does not execute the script, especially on Linux boxes. It instead accepts the text pane instead of executing. I cannot really reproduce it (I do not have a linux right now), but students have experienced this several times

- When the UI thread crashes, a new easel has to be opened. For example, execute the script:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
self foo
view nodes: (1 to: 20)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
It will raise a debugger. Remove the "self foo", and press the check or Cmd-s, then I have the same error, even though "self foo" is not in the script.

- Examples are crucially missing.

These 3 points are quite disturbing for the students. It would be cool to have a sprint on the new easel. I like the fact it is the same UI concept than the rest of the Moose UI.

Shall I open issues for each of these points?

Cheers,
Alexandre
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Re: Issues with the new Mondrian Easel

Tudor Girba-2
Hi,

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I found the new easel often quite problematic. Here is a list of issues I have found:
>
> - Time to time, pressing Ctrl-s does not execute the script, especially on Linux boxes. It instead accepts the text pane instead of executing. I cannot really reproduce it (I do not have a linux right now), but students have experienced this several times

ctrl-s never executes it. only cmd+s (or alt+s).

> - When the UI thread crashes, a new easel has to be opened. For example, execute the script:
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> self foo
> view nodes: (1 to: 20)
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> It will raise a debugger. Remove the "self foo", and press the check or Cmd-s, then I have the same error, even though "self foo" is not in the script.

This is a known issue in Glamour. It would be very cool if this would
get solved. But, I do not know how :(

> - Examples are crucially missing.

These will not get there soon (for the reasons explained before). We
need a browser dedicated to teaching and to examples.

> These 3 points are quite disturbing for the students. It would be cool to have a sprint on the new easel. I like the fact it is the same UI concept than the rest of the Moose UI.
>
> Shall I open issues for each of these points?

For the second one please.

Cheers,
Doru


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Re: Issues with the new Mondrian Easel

abergel
Done
#752

Alexandre


On 23 Nov 2011, at 10:55, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I found the new easel often quite problematic. Here is a list of issues I have found:
>>
>> - Time to time, pressing Ctrl-s does not execute the script, especially on Linux boxes. It instead accepts the text pane instead of executing. I cannot really reproduce it (I do not have a linux right now), but students have experienced this several times
>
> ctrl-s never executes it. only cmd+s (or alt+s).
>
>> - When the UI thread crashes, a new easel has to be opened. For example, execute the script:
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> self foo
>> view nodes: (1 to: 20)
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> It will raise a debugger. Remove the "self foo", and press the check or Cmd-s, then I have the same error, even though "self foo" is not in the script.
>
> This is a known issue in Glamour. It would be very cool if this would
> get solved. But, I do not know how :(
>
>> - Examples are crucially missing.
>
> These will not get there soon (for the reasons explained before). We
> need a browser dedicated to teaching and to examples.
>
>> These 3 points are quite disturbing for the students. It would be cool to have a sprint on the new easel. I like the fact it is the same UI concept than the rest of the Moose UI.
>>
>> Shall I open issues for each of these points?
>
> For the second one please.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
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Re: Issues with the new Mondrian Easel

Tudor Girba-2
Hi,

Just to let you know: the pasting issue in Glamour should be solved now. This was one of the main issues that confused people (me included :) when working with the editors, such as easel.

Cheers,
Doru


On 23 Nov 2011, at 15:12, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Done
> #752
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 23 Nov 2011, at 10:55, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I found the new easel often quite problematic. Here is a list of issues I have found:
>>>
>>> - Time to time, pressing Ctrl-s does not execute the script, especially on Linux boxes. It instead accepts the text pane instead of executing. I cannot really reproduce it (I do not have a linux right now), but students have experienced this several times
>>
>> ctrl-s never executes it. only cmd+s (or alt+s).
>>
>>> - When the UI thread crashes, a new easel has to be opened. For example, execute the script:
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>> self foo
>>> view nodes: (1 to: 20)
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>> It will raise a debugger. Remove the "self foo", and press the check or Cmd-s, then I have the same error, even though "self foo" is not in the script.
>>
>> This is a known issue in Glamour. It would be very cool if this would
>> get solved. But, I do not know how :(
>>
>>> - Examples are crucially missing.
>>
>> These will not get there soon (for the reasons explained before). We
>> need a browser dedicated to teaching and to examples.
>>
>>> These 3 points are quite disturbing for the students. It would be cool to have a sprint on the new easel. I like the fact it is the same UI concept than the rest of the Moose UI.
>>>
>>> Shall I open issues for each of these points?
>>
>> For the second one please.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>> --
>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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Re: Issues with the new Mondrian Easel

abergel
Ok, cool!

Alexandre


On 9 Dec 2011, at 17:50, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just to let you know: the pasting issue in Glamour should be solved now. This was one of the main issues that confused people (me included :) when working with the editors, such as easel.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 23 Nov 2011, at 15:12, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Done
>> #752
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 23 Nov 2011, at 10:55, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> I found the new easel often quite problematic. Here is a list of issues I have found:
>>>>
>>>> - Time to time, pressing Ctrl-s does not execute the script, especially on Linux boxes. It instead accepts the text pane instead of executing. I cannot really reproduce it (I do not have a linux right now), but students have experienced this several times
>>>
>>> ctrl-s never executes it. only cmd+s (or alt+s).
>>>
>>>> - When the UI thread crashes, a new easel has to be opened. For example, execute the script:
>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>> self foo
>>>> view nodes: (1 to: 20)
>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>> It will raise a debugger. Remove the "self foo", and press the check or Cmd-s, then I have the same error, even though "self foo" is not in the script.
>>>
>>> This is a known issue in Glamour. It would be very cool if this would
>>> get solved. But, I do not know how :(
>>>
>>>> - Examples are crucially missing.
>>>
>>> These will not get there soon (for the reasons explained before). We
>>> need a browser dedicated to teaching and to examples.
>>>
>>>> These 3 points are quite disturbing for the students. It would be cool to have a sprint on the new easel. I like the fact it is the same UI concept than the rest of the Moose UI.
>>>>
>>>> Shall I open issues for each of these points?
>>>
>>> For the second one please.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
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>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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