Just that you know that we are not happy

Since the debugger is improving we will see if we can avoid to produce an obsolete lecture that people will
use for 5 years. I should discuss with damien and luc.
But it means that it should be stable by monday or at maximum tuesday because we will have to redo
the slides. Now luckily we postponed redoing 15 videos we should (re)do to show how to code in Pharo
(for the record doing such videos of 5 min takes 3 hours minimum to do, cut and process).

Now I would like that we consider that I gave feedback on the icons two years ago and the net result
was that during two years nothing changed. So I'm happy to see feedback getting listened because
I often got the impression in the past that I should learn how to use tools instead of having tools
that work for me (remember the discussion about playground and where we have to explain why the result of
a printString should not only be in a popup!)
Sometimes I hate that people teachs me how I should work because I often go faster my way.

Stef

Le 10/1/16 08:37, stepharo a écrit :

Hi

if GTdebugger becomes the default debugger it means that our mooc will be already obsolete before getting finished.
It means that we will be forced to
    have separate installers
    different web pages explaining not to use Pharo 50 but a strange version
    it means that people will report bugs on a different system
And we will have to spent time on that instead of the rest.

And we will really thank the Pharo community for its great vision and care about our effort.
This is more than 6 months that we are working on it and we have problably yet another month of work.
Now just writing this makes me sick.

So if the only respect about the work of other people is like that then I will just think a lot about my
engagement. If this happens I can tell you that you will have a hard time to ask me to put energy into
pharo in the future.

Now if this makes you feel easy you can think that I'm tired. This poor stephane is working too much and
is overacting. Think that if this helps you to feel good. Really.

Now what pissed me off the most is that I'm **TEACHING** to L2 L3 and M1 students
This year I was teaching to
    Prague
    Annecy
    Lviv
    Lome
    Dakar
    Saint louis
    Yaounde

and when I say that the student are afraid by the default debugger, they are afraid also by
a more complex one. Who among the people deciding to not put this debugger by default
can show me that he did one lecture on newbies over the last two years? For real?

So be right and go ahead: because you know what is good for the end programmer.
I asked five times to understand who need _thisContext and _stakc top and so far I got zero answer.
It will help me to take a break from Pharo.

Stef

PS: I 'm not in the Pharo board anymore because I have to do something else

I use both thisContext and stackTop regularly. thisContext maybe once a wee, stackTop probably multiple times a day.

So explain to me how?

Stef