(Kind of urgent) Phratch: operators don't work at all on last verion!

Hi all,

Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides.

But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this?

Also:

¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background?

I will be sharing more questions as they come.

Thanks,

Offray

Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the code recently that we miss.

Thanks again,

Offray

On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote:

Hi Offray,

you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: [hidden email][hidden email].

About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem:

- I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall

- run it

- click on the category "operators".

It works for me.

For your second question:

There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines.

I will be happy to answer other questions :)

Best regards,

Jannik

2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email][hidden email]>:

Hi all,

Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides.

But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this?

Also:

¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background?

I will be sharing more questions as they come.

Thanks,

Offray

--

~~Jannik Laval~~
École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://www.phratch.com
http://www.approchealpes.info
http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Well, the procedure we made in both cases was the same. Went to download page, download the proper package for each platform and with the previous one, operators didn't work but on this they do. I don't know if is possible to see details on each version by going to the underlaying system. Finally we detected what was going on: The operators don't work if we change the language interface to Spanish.

If I can help with any test or details, let me know.

Cheers,

Offray

On 14/07/15 16:17, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:

Hi Jan,

I'm downloading now the mac version. Let me test it to give you more details.

Offray

On 14/07/15 16:02, jannik laval wrote:

Hi Offray,

Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ?

It is probable that a link is not correct.

Best,

Jannik

2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email][hidden email]>:

Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the code recently that we miss.

Thanks again,

Offray

On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote:

Hi Offray,

you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: [hidden email][hidden email].

About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem:

- I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall

- run it

- click on the category "operators".

It works for me.

For your second question:

There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines.

I will be happy to answer other questions :)

Best regards,

Jannik

2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]>:

Hi all,

Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides.

But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this?

Also:

¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background?

I will be sharing more questions as they come.

Thanks,

Offray

--

~~Jannik Laval~~
École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://www.phratch.com
http://www.approchealpes.info
http://car.mines-douai.fr/

--

~~Jannik Laval~~
École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://www.phratch.com
http://www.approchealpes.info
http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Ok,

There are some problems in the spanish  file.

I will update it as soon as possible.

Jannik

2015-07-15 0:07 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]>:

Well, the procedure we made in both cases was the same. Went to download page, download the proper package for each platform and with the previous one, operators didn't work but on this they do. I don't know if is possible to see details on each version by going to the underlaying system. Finally we detected what was going on: The operators don't work if we change the language interface to Spanish.

If I can help with any test or details, let me know.

Cheers,

Offray

On 14/07/15 16:17, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:

Hi Jan,

I'm downloading now the mac version. Let me test it to give you more details.

Offray

On 14/07/15 16:02, jannik laval wrote:

Hi Offray,

Could you give me the process you use to download the wrong version ?

It is probable that a link is not correct.

Best,

Jannik

2015-07-14 22:59 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email][hidden email]>:

Thanks Jannik for your quick answer! we're working on the workshop right now, so getting this support is really encouraging for we all and sorry if I don't go th the specific mailing list in this hurry, but I will be using Phratch in the future, so wait for us there. I have downloaded the installer from there and now is working. Seems that we have and old version with a change in the code recently that we miss.

Thanks again,

Offray

On 14/07/15 15:47, jannik laval wrote:

Hi Offray,

you can use the phratch mailing-list to ask specific questions: [hidden email][hidden email].

About your problem of MNU. Could you provide more information. I cannot reproduce your problem:

- I downloaded phratch 4.0 from here: http://www.phratch.com/phratch/phratchinstall

- run it

- click on the category "operators".

It works for me.

For your second question:

There is a block "clean pen trails" that erase all the drawn lines.

I will be happy to answer other questions :)

Best regards,

Jannik

2015-07-14 22:12 GMT+02:00 Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]>:

Hi all,

Today we started to use phratch to a group of people without much of any experience with computer programming. The idea is to have a workshop today and tomorrow start with more symbolic and abstract approach using Pharo and give them a taste of the several levels of programmig and exploration this environment provides.

But my main problem is that operators dont work on Phratch. We get a MNU as soon as we select the operators button which is a real stoper for any advance stuff. We're using the currently available package from the download page. Can somebody help me on this?

Also:

¿How can we erase a line drawn with the pencil on the background?

I will be sharing more questions as they come.

Thanks,

Offray

--

~~Jannik Laval~~
École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://www.phratch.com
http://www.approchealpes.info
http://car.mines-douai.fr/

--

~~Jannik Laval~~
École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://www.phratch.com
http://www.approchealpes.info
http://car.mines-douai.fr/

--

~~Jannik Laval~~
École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://www.phratch.com
http://www.approchealpes.info
http://car.mines-douai.fr/