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John Pfersich

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 3, 2016, at 03:49, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 03 Jan 2016, at 10:11, John Pfersich <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 2, 2016, at 23:57, Saša Janiška <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Sub, 2016-01-02 at 23:27 +0000, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:

there is an an SQlite wrapper for pharo

I know about it.

However it would be nice to have some categorized catalog of the
packages available for Pharo?

+1
I find that I just browse the Configuration Browser to see what's out there and then google the name to see if I can find any documentation.

you have it:

http://catalog.pharo.org

configuration browser was not good enough so we replaced it in Pharo 5 (packages can be used in older versions, and they are listed in the catalog web page).
but again… no tool can survive if people does not contribute.

Esteban

You should add a link to catalog.pharo.org on the documentation page on Pharo.org. I find it is a very useful tool.

And it would be nice to have a wiki like Squeak's.

the screenshot you shared as Tudor said can be accomplished via
Roassal and Morphic.

Now, I'm really a bit puzzled about Roassal' capabilities. :-)

Personally I find the whole performance question kinda irrelevant
because if you really want to squeeze the most performance code those
parts in C and call them from Pharo via its FFI. Not even Julia will
able to outperform that since itself relies on C code for performance
and its quite restrictive how you use its dynamic types to achieve
high performance.

Well, the point is that e.g. I know people who tried to do similar apps
in Python and it was too slow, they abandoned it and went to C++.

That's the reason why I was primarily exploring statically-compiled
languages. Julia *might* be interesting since it is higher-level
language with fantastic, close to C performance when one helps compiler
by annotating data types.

In short, I want to avoid fiddling with low-level languages, otherwise
it would be simple to just use C/GTK or C++/Qt. (Java could probably
also do the job, but I simply do not like it.)

For the most critical part of the application, I anyway plan to use 3rd
party C lib which does calculate planetary ephemeris, but for the custom
libs using it, I want to use higher-level and type-safer language.

In any case there are always 3 rules, profile, profile and profile.
When it comes to performance assume nothing. In the vast majority of
cases Pharo JIT VM should be more than enough.

Let me see...

And if all you want to do is a business app I dont even know why you
worry about performance. Business apps they are very low demand on
performance.

When I say 'business' app, it is most in the sense of typical 'desktop
outlook', while the app itself is falling more into 'science' app, but
it depends how one sees astronomy/astrology. :-)

Pharo libraries dont get irrelevant because the language is so simple
it barely changes and the changes usually dont brake compatibility.

Pharo's simplicity of the language is huge 'pro'. ;)

Pharo can do REPL via the playground, the whole deal is that is a lot
more than that.

Right, it's just that Julia provides more 'traditional' dev work-flow,
while with Pharo one has to unwrap one's head a bit. :-)

GUI wise you can do some pretty awesome stuff with morphic.

That I still have to learn...

Sincerely,
Gour

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all material desires, he neither acts for sense gratification
nor engages in fruitive activities.

Gour

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

On Ned, 2016-01-03 at 12:49 +0100, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

> you have it:
>
> http://catalog.pharo.org

That's nice, but there are, imho, too many pkgs with "No description
provided", so maybe that should be made as mandatory?

Sincerely,
Gour

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In the material world, one who is unaffected by whatever good
or evil he may obtain, neither praising it nor despising it,
is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge.

EstebanLM

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

> On 04 Jan 2016, at 11:23, Saša Janiška <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Ned, 2016-01-03 at 12:49 +0100, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
>> you have it:
>>
>> http://catalog.pharo.org
>
> That's nice, but there are, imho, too many pkgs with "No description
> provided", so maybe that should be made as mandatory?

it is mandatory… but people does not provide them, and we could reject the projects, but then they will be irremediable lost.
So we took the “least pain” path.

I encourage people to provide correct project descriptions.

cheers,
Esteban

>
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
>
> --
> In the material world, one who is unaffected by whatever good
> or evil he may obtain, neither praising it nor despising it,
> is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge.
>
>
>
>
>

John Pfersich

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

In reply to this post by Gour

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 02:23, Saša Janiška <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On Ned, 2016-01-03 at 12:49 +0100, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>
>> you have it:
>>
>> http://catalog.pharo.org
>
> That's nice, but there are, imho, too many pkgs with "No description
> provided", so maybe that should be made as mandatory?
>

And many of the descriptions there aren't terribly descriptive.

>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
>
> --
> In the material world, one who is unaffected by whatever good
> or evil he may obtain, neither praising it nor despising it,
> is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge.
>
>
>
>
>

stepharo

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

In reply to this post by John Pfersich

http://catalog.pharo.org

configuration browser was not good enough so we replaced it in Pharo 5 (packages can be used in older versions, and they are listed in the catalog web page).

but again… no tool can survive if people does not contribute.

Esteban

You should add a link to catalog.pharo.org on the documentation page on Pharo.org. I find it is a very useful tool.

I had it in the past and I readd it now ;(

stepharo

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

In reply to this post by John Pfersich

And many of the descriptions there aren't terribly descriptive.

If people do not value their work.... we cannot do more than what we are
doing sadly

Stef

kilon.alios

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

Could not agree more Stef

It takes no more than 10 minutes to document your project and it's only 2 methods, there are no excuses. Unfortunately you cannot force people to care about their own code.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 at 09:10, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote:

And many of the descriptions there aren't terribly descriptive.

If people do not value their work.... we cannot do more than what we are
doing sadly

Stef

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

> On 04 Jan 2016, at 12:07, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 04 Jan 2016, at 11:23, Saša Janiška <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On Ned, 2016-01-03 at 12:49 +0100, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>
>>> you have it:
>>>
>>> http://catalog.pharo.org
>>
>> That's nice, but there are, imho, too many pkgs with "No description
>> provided", so maybe that should be made as mandatory?
>
> it is mandatory… but people does not provide them, and we could reject the projects, but then they will be irremediable lost.
> So we took the “least pain” path.
>
> I encourage people to provide correct project descriptions.

I updated a couple of my configs.

> cheers,
> Esteban
>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Gour
>>
>> --
>> In the material world, one who is unaffected by whatever good
>> or evil he may obtain, neither praising it nor despising it,
>> is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge.

stepharo

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

I encourage people to provide correct project descriptions.

> I updated a couple of my configs.

Good reaction!

Stef

>
>> cheers,
>> Esteban
>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Gour
>>>
>>> --
>>> In the material world, one who is unaffected by whatever good
>>> or evil he may obtain, neither praising it nor despising it,
>>> is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge.
>
>

abergel

Re: Lawsuit Tracker app

I did the same

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On Jan 5, 2016, at 4:00 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote:

I updated a couple of my configs.

Good reaction!