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Lively repository version system: How to find out what version I am running?

milan zimmermann
Hi:

I cannot figure out the lively repository versioning - how do I know
which (repository) version I am running and how to load the current
(latest/trunk) version.

Two concrete questions:

1) I am creating new pages by keeping a "start-page.xhtml" saved in my
lively home. I saved it a few weeks ago from a location I cannot
remember. If I copy or open "start-page.xhtml", then create, from the
menu, say, a rectangle, is that always "the latest code"? also is
everything in the page loaded dynamically to be always the latest or
does what I am running stay the version as when I saved the file...

2) I always assumed a latest code is loaded dynamically but now I am
not sure, because: In trac there is a bug marked as "fixed again in
revision 130596", several hours ago. It does not seem to work for me,
so I wonder how to ensure to run 130596 or later (am I running an
older version or the fix does not work for me).

Hopefully I am making sense - I seem to remember there used to be a
way to look at versions and load them but I am not sure where.

Thanks,

Milan
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Re: Lively repository version system: How to find out what version I am running?

Robert Krahn-4
http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/ points to a single SVN repository. Whenever you visit a page there you will automatically access the HEAD revision of that repository.

Exception #1: You can access older revisions using a special URL scheme. For example http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/!svn/bc/10000/webwerkstatt.xhtml shows you webwerkstatt.xhtml at revision 10000. Also, all other files that are used to run this world are of the same revision (source code, etc). This allows you to go back in time. We have several tools in our system that allow you easy access to older versions without the need to remember the URL scheme.

Exception #2: Sometimes the browser caches old versions of xhtml pages. We are pretty good now to load new versions of js files whenever that is necessary but depending on your web browser xhtml files are not always in their most current version. Simply reloading a world will fix this.

Best,
Robert


On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Milan Zimmermann wrote:

Hi:

I cannot figure out the lively repository versioning - how do I know
which (repository) version I am running and how to load the current
(latest/trunk) version.

Two concrete questions:

1) I am creating new pages by keeping a "start-page.xhtml" saved in my
lively home. I saved it a few weeks ago from a location I cannot
remember. If I copy or open "start-page.xhtml", then create, from the
menu, say, a rectangle, is that always "the latest code"? also is
everything in the page loaded dynamically to be always the latest or
does what I am running stay the version as when I saved the file...

2) I always assumed a latest code is loaded dynamically but now I am
not sure, because: In trac there is a bug marked as "fixed again in
revision 130596", several hours ago. It does not seem to work for me,
so I wonder how to ensure to run 130596 or later (am I running an
older version or the fix does not work for me).

Hopefully I am making sense - I seem to remember there used to be a
way to look at versions and load them but I am not sure where.

Thanks,

Milan
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Re: Lively repository version system: How to find out what version I am running?

milan zimmermann
Thanks Robert, for the description.

After more searching, I am also now realizing versioning is also described here

http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/versions/2_0_Welcome.xhtml

Sorry to have missed that.

Now I can report bugs or ask questions with confidence I am running
the latest :)

Later,

Milan


On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Robert Krahn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/ points to a single SVN
> repository. Whenever you visit a page there you will automatically access
> the HEAD revision of that repository.
>
> Exception #1: You can access older revisions using a special URL scheme. For
> example http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/!svn/bc/10000/webwerkstatt.xhtml shows
> you webwerkstatt.xhtml at revision 10000. Also, all other files that are
> used to run this world are of the same revision (source code, etc). This
> allows you to go back in time. We have several tools in our system that
> allow you easy access to older versions without the need to remember the URL
> scheme.
>
> Exception #2: Sometimes the browser caches old versions of xhtml pages. We
> are pretty good now to load new versions of js files whenever that is
> necessary but depending on your web browser xhtml files are not always in
> their most current version. Simply reloading a world will fix this.
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> I cannot figure out the lively repository versioning - how do I know
> which (repository) version I am running and how to load the current
> (latest/trunk) version.
>
> Two concrete questions:
>
> 1) I am creating new pages by keeping a "start-page.xhtml" saved in my
> lively home. I saved it a few weeks ago from a location I cannot
> remember. If I copy or open "start-page.xhtml", then create, from the
> menu, say, a rectangle, is that always "the latest code"? also is
> everything in the page loaded dynamically to be always the latest or
> does what I am running stay the version as when I saved the file...
>
> 2) I always assumed a latest code is loaded dynamically but now I am
> not sure, because: In trac there is a bug marked as "fixed again in
> revision 130596", several hours ago. It does not seem to work for me,
> so I wonder how to ensure to run 130596 or later (am I running an
> older version or the fix does not work for me).
>
> Hopefully I am making sense - I seem to remember there used to be a
> way to look at versions and load them but I am not sure where.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Milan
> _______________________________________________
> lively-kernel mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel
>
>
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