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Hello,
I know that Hapax possibly isn't fully ported to Pharo, but running the Hapax tests causes my Moose 4.5 image to hang (I've loaded everything in the SqS Hapax repository). What image and package loading order should one use to load Hapax? I'm interested in the information retrieval part for natural language analysis, could that part be repackaged in its own package? Cheers, Hernán _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I do not know but I would like to know the answer too.
On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > Hello, > > I know that Hapax possibly isn't fully ported to Pharo, but running > the Hapax tests causes my Moose 4.5 image to hang (I've loaded > everything in the SqS Hapax repository). What image and package > loading order should one use to load Hapax? I'm interested in the > information retrieval part for natural language analysis, could that > part be repackaged in its own package? > Cheers, > > Hernán > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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The port is indeed not complete.
As far as I remember, the code was a simple brute force loading from VW and it is not expected to work. However, any work in this area would be highly interesting for Moose. Cheers, Doru On 7 Aug 2011, at 10:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I do not know but I would like to know the answer too. > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I know that Hapax possibly isn't fully ported to Pharo, but running >> the Hapax tests causes my Moose 4.5 image to hang (I've loaded >> everything in the SqS Hapax repository). What image and package >> loading order should one use to load Hapax? I'm interested in the >> information retrieval part for natural language analysis, could that >> part be repackaged in its own package? >> Cheers, >> >> Hernán >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Alexandre On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > The port is indeed not complete. > > As far as I remember, the code was a simple brute force loading from VW and it is not expected to work. > > However, any work in this area would be highly interesting for Moose. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 7 Aug 2011, at 10:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> I do not know but I would like to know the answer too. >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I know that Hapax possibly isn't fully ported to Pharo, but running >>> the Hapax tests causes my Moose 4.5 image to hang (I've loaded >>> everything in the SqS Hapax repository). What image and package >>> loading order should one use to load Hapax? I'm interested in the >>> information retrieval part for natural language analysis, could that >>> part be repackaged in its own package? >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On 7 août 2011, at 13:11, Tudor Girba wrote: > The port is indeed not complete. > > As far as I remember, the code was a simple brute force loading from VW and it is not expected to work. Exactly. As said before, the basic things are well tested and already integrated in moose (like the stemming algo). Unfortunately, there are very few tests for the higher level stuff. Adrian told me that all this stuff was pretty much "work in progress" last time he touched: it's not clear what they do/what should be done now to make it work. And the area is quite complex so a complete rewrite from scratch might be necessary. > > However, any work in this area would be highly interesting for Moose. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 7 Aug 2011, at 10:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> I do not know but I would like to know the answer too. >> >> On Aug 7, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I know that Hapax possibly isn't fully ported to Pharo, but running >>> the Hapax tests causes my Moose 4.5 image to hang (I've loaded >>> everything in the SqS Hapax repository). What image and package >>> loading order should one use to load Hapax? I'm interested in the >>> information retrieval part for natural language analysis, could that >>> part be repackaged in its own package? >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Simon Denier _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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So, for the time being, I'm working on the integration of Hapax in Moose4.8.
Basically, some classes were doing old stuff or using classes that no longer exist Today Status: - Text Extraction is complete, using the example of Hernán ( link <http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Hapax-CodeFu-changes-and-example-script-td4025949.html> ) and using the Moose model - Some complex linear algebra functions are called to a C library via NativeBoost. We don't need to use ProcessWrapper to run in the operating system anymore. - Refactoring (adding documentation, porting some messages to other projects such as FileSystem or Algos-InformationRetrieval for example) To do: - Apply Hierachical Clustering - Visualization in Distribution Maps ( I figure both are already ported in other projects, right? ) - Tests!! (some of them are red and there is a lot to cover) - More Refactoring I have less than one month in RMoD, and I'm writing my dissertation, but I'll do my best here. Any sign of working in progress in these areas (clustering, visualization...) will be very helpful Best Regards - Gustavo Jansen -- View this message in context: http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Loading-Hapax-tp3232628p4029230.html Sent from the moose-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Gustavo,
Just wondering how your work is going. Any news? Alexandre On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Gustavo Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote: > So, for the time being, I'm working on the integration of Hapax in Moose4.8. > Basically, some classes were doing old stuff or using classes that no longer > exist > > Today Status: > - Text Extraction is complete, using the example of Hernán ( link > <http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Hapax-CodeFu-changes-and-example-script-td4025949.html> > ) and using the Moose model > - Some complex linear algebra functions are called to a C library via > NativeBoost. We don't need to use ProcessWrapper to run in the operating > system anymore. > - Refactoring (adding documentation, porting some messages to other projects > such as FileSystem or Algos-InformationRetrieval for example) > > To do: > - Apply Hierachical Clustering > - Visualization in Distribution Maps > ( I figure both are already ported in other projects, right? ) > - Tests!! (some of them are red and there is a lot to cover) > - More Refactoring > > I have less than one month in RMoD, and I'm writing my dissertation, but > I'll do my best here. > Any sign of working in progress in these areas (clustering, > visualization...) will be very helpful > > Best Regards > - > Gustavo Jansen > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Loading-Hapax-tp3232628p4029230.html > Sent from the moose-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Alexandre, so far, it's going well. The visualization is *almost* complete, as you can see in the following image [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67114006/firstDistributionMap.png]. The properties of the Distribution Map are extracted from the vocabularies of each class (each color denotes a group of conceptually similar classes). There are other visualizations, so i took the one that is more related to my Master's study.plus: working with Distribution Map was very easy :-) - On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Gustavo, _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Gustavo, This is good news. Just a thing: we should explicitly distinguish between the semantic analysis part and the visualization part. Where is your code? Would you agree to add it to the Moose team repository on StHub?
Cheers, Doru On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Gustavo Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote:
"Every thing has its own flow"
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Excellent!
Let us know when you feel your code is ready to be checked by us Cheers, Alexandre On Nov 1, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Gustavo Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > so far, it's going well. The visualization is *almost* complete, as you can see in the following image [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67114006/firstDistributionMap.png]. The properties of the Distribution Map are extracted from the vocabularies of each class (each color denotes a group of conceptually similar classes). There are other visualizations, so i took the one that is more related to my Master's study. > > After that, i need to refactor+test+document and also present the progress for RMoD > plus: working with Distribution Map was very easy :-) > > - > Gustavo Jansen > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Gustavo, > > Just wondering how your work is going. Any news? > > Alexandre > > > On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Gustavo Jansen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > So, for the time being, I'm working on the integration of Hapax in Moose4.8. > > Basically, some classes were doing old stuff or using classes that no longer > > exist > > > > Today Status: > > - Text Extraction is complete, using the example of Hernán ( link > > <http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Hapax-CodeFu-changes-and-example-script-td4025949.html> > > ) and using the Moose model > > - Some complex linear algebra functions are called to a C library via > > NativeBoost. We don't need to use ProcessWrapper to run in the operating > > system anymore. > > - Refactoring (adding documentation, porting some messages to other projects > > such as FileSystem or Algos-InformationRetrieval for example) > > > > To do: > > - Apply Hierachical Clustering > > - Visualization in Distribution Maps > > ( I figure both are already ported in other projects, right? ) > > - Tests!! (some of them are red and there is a lot to cover) > > - More Refactoring > > > > I have less than one month in RMoD, and I'm writing my dissertation, but > > I'll do my best here. > > Any sign of working in progress in these areas (clustering, > > visualization...) will be very helpful > > > > Best Regards > > - > > Gustavo Jansen > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Loading-Hapax-tp3232628p4029230.html > > Sent from the moose-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi everybody, Doru,- On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: Excellent! _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Gustavo,
Please notice I have migrated BioSmalltalk and latest code is in SmalltalkHub now. http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/BioSmalltalk It contains some Hapax code which I wrote for tf-idf script. Cheers, Hernán El 01/11/2013 11:32, Gustavo Jansen escribió: > Hi everybody, > > Doru, > it's good that you're pointing this, because i'm separating these > interests. It was somehow entangled in the old code. > Basically, I'm working with old projects Hapax > <http://www.squeaksource.com/Hapax.html> and BioSmalltalk > <http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/BioSmalltalk.html>, both in SqueakSource. > What i did was to refactor some legacy code and create a class to play > with the Moose Model > > Both, > my code is currently local because it's not stable (few tests, most of > them red etc.). But i'll sure add it to StHub in the next weeks. > > - > Gustavo Jansen > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > Excellent! > Let us know when you feel your code is ready to be checked by us > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Nov 1, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Gustavo Jansen <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > > Hi Alexandre, > > > > so far, it's going well. The visualization is *almost* complete, > as you can see in the following image > [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67114006/firstDistributionMap.png]. > The properties of the Distribution Map are extracted from the > vocabularies of each class (each color denotes a group of > conceptually similar classes). There are other visualizations, so i > took the one that is more related to my Master's study. > > > > After that, i need to refactor+test+document and also present the > progress for RMoD > > plus: working with Distribution Map was very easy :-) > > > > - > > Gustavo Jansen > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > Hi Gustavo, > > > > Just wondering how your work is going. Any news? > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Gustavo Jansen <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > > > > So, for the time being, I'm working on the integration of Hapax > in Moose4.8. > > > Basically, some classes were doing old stuff or using classes > that no longer > > > exist > > > > > > Today Status: > > > - Text Extraction is complete, using the example of Hernán ( link > > > > <http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Hapax-CodeFu-changes-and-example-script-td4025949.html> > > > ) and using the Moose model > > > - Some complex linear algebra functions are called to a C > library via > > > NativeBoost. We don't need to use ProcessWrapper to run in the > operating > > > system anymore. > > > - Refactoring (adding documentation, porting some messages to > other projects > > > such as FileSystem or Algos-InformationRetrieval for example) > > > > > > To do: > > > - Apply Hierachical Clustering > > > - Visualization in Distribution Maps > > > ( I figure both are already ported in other projects, right? ) > > > - Tests!! (some of them are red and there is a lot to cover) > > > - More Refactoring > > > > > > I have less than one month in RMoD, and I'm writing my > dissertation, but > > > I'll do my best here. > > > Any sign of working in progress in these areas (clustering, > > > visualization...) will be very helpful > > > > > > Best Regards > > > - > > > Gustavo Jansen > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: > http://moose-dev.97923.n3.nabble.com/Loading-Hapax-tp3232628p4029230.html > > > Sent from the moose-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moose-dev mailing list > > > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Hernán, I also put the project in SmalltalkHub [http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~GustavoSantos/Hapax]. I'm still running tests and refactoring, so it is not stable yet. It was just an initial commit.that's good. I will see the changes and integrate them. I had to change the whole SVDProcess when integrating with Moose. -- On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Hernán Morales Durand <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Gustavo, _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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