Hi,
regarding the problem Sven mentioned on http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2017-February/030542.html here are my findings: When I use latest Pharo 6 (Image 60404) and run Metacello new smalltalkhubUser: 'Seaside' project: 'MetacelloConfigurations'; configuration: 'Seaside3'; version: #'release3.2'; load it loads the latest release 3.2 (which internally loads 3.2.1). The package is "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" This loads fine in Pharo 6 except that after installation the "Tools" -> "Seaside control panel" is not working anymore as "NewListModel" is not found anymore. So the control panel is broken. Dont know what the migration path is for UI's who used the removed "NewListModel" class. So yes - one can (by using the above script) use Seaside but currently has to start the server with a script until this is fixed. This is good to know - but does not solve the "loading from catalog" issue. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So (in a fresh image 60404) I loaded "Bootstrap" from catalog and I received the error Sven reported. But ConfigurationOfBootstrap itself is not the problem I guess. Because it is also only referencing the "release3.2" version of Seaside and also "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" is loaded. The Transcript shows the following error output: Loaded -> ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/ --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/Error: Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development Also when you try to open the ConfigurationOfSeaside3 using Versionner I receiver an error "Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development". So there must be something wrong with the Seaside config I thought - or (what would be worse) with the newer Metacello version included in Pharo 6. At least the config looks OK and in both situations "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323" is used. Additionally I tried: - when I load the Bootstrap config in a fresh Pharo 5.0 image (50769) from Catalog all loads fine. - when I manipulate the Pharo 6 image to have a version 5 signature SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo5.0'. SystemVersion current inspect. and load from catalog afterwards it also does not work. So I guess a Pharo 5.x specific config rule could not be the cause. Now I checked how Catalog loads the configs. And in class CatalogProject you will notice that for the catalog we still use Gofer for loading installStableVersion Gofer it url: self repositoryUrl; configurationOf: self name; loadStable when I change it to Metacello API installStableVersion Metacello new repository: self repositoryUrl, '/',self name; configuration: self name; version: #'stable'; load what a surprise: anything loads fine. I still wonder and do not know about the difference why Gofer and Metacello loading in Pharo 6 makes a difference now. So we could fix it for the catalog ... still I have no glue about the Gofer/Metacello API difference ... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19736/Catalog-should-use-Metacello-API-instead-of-Gofer-for-Configuration-installation Thanks T. |
Hi Torsten,
Thanks for your extensive reply, I am too busy to try myself, but I very much appreciate your help. Sven (PS: yes, that was the error that I saw too) > On 21 Feb 2017, at 14:24, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi, > > regarding the problem Sven mentioned on http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2017-February/030542.html > > here are my findings: > > When I use latest Pharo 6 (Image 60404) and run > > Metacello new > smalltalkhubUser: 'Seaside' project: 'MetacelloConfigurations'; > configuration: 'Seaside3'; > version: #'release3.2'; > load > > it loads the latest release 3.2 (which internally loads 3.2.1). The package is "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" > > This loads fine in Pharo 6 except that after installation the "Tools" -> "Seaside control panel" is not working anymore as > "NewListModel" is not found anymore. So the control panel is broken. Dont know what the migration path is for UI's > who used the removed "NewListModel" class. > > So yes - one can (by using the above script) use Seaside but currently has to start the server with a script > until this is fixed. This is good to know - but does not solve the "loading from catalog" issue. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > So (in a fresh image 60404) I loaded "Bootstrap" from catalog and I received the error Sven reported. > > But ConfigurationOfBootstrap itself is not the problem I guess. Because it is also only referencing the > "release3.2" version of Seaside and also "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" is loaded. > > > The Transcript shows the following error output: > > Loaded -> ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/ --- > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/Error: Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development > > Also when you try to open the ConfigurationOfSeaside3 using Versionner I receiver an error "Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development". > > So there must be something wrong with the Seaside config I thought - or (what would be worse) with the newer Metacello > version included in Pharo 6. At least the config looks OK and in both situations "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323" is used. > > Additionally I tried: > > - when I load the Bootstrap config in a fresh Pharo 5.0 image (50769) from Catalog all loads fine. > - when I manipulate the Pharo 6 image to have a version 5 signature > SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo5.0'. SystemVersion current inspect. > and load from catalog afterwards it also does not work. So I guess a Pharo 5.x specific config rule could not be the cause. > > > Now I checked how Catalog loads the configs. And in class CatalogProject you will notice that for the catalog we still use Gofer for loading > > installStableVersion > Gofer it > url: self repositoryUrl; > configurationOf: self name; > loadStable > > when I change it to Metacello API > > installStableVersion > Metacello new > repository: self repositoryUrl, '/',self name; > configuration: self name; > version: #'stable'; > load > > what a surprise: anything loads fine. I still wonder and do not know about the difference why Gofer and Metacello loading in Pharo 6 > makes a difference now. > > So we could fix it for the catalog ... still I have no glue about the Gofer/Metacello API difference ... > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19736/Catalog-should-use-Metacello-API-instead-of-Gofer-for-Configuration-installation > > > Thanks > T. |
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Torsten,
I don't know whether Pharo uses the latest version of Metacello from github when building Pharo6.0 ... historically Pharo has not used the latest version from github and this has been the case for a very long time and I've been hoping that eventually this would be solved, but perhaps not? There haven't been any bugfixes to Metacello since November, but perhaps they are lagging behind more than that? Dale On 02/21/2017 05:24 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi, > > regarding the problem Sven mentioned on http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2017-February/030542.html > > here are my findings: > > When I use latest Pharo 6 (Image 60404) and run > > Metacello new > smalltalkhubUser: 'Seaside' project: 'MetacelloConfigurations'; > configuration: 'Seaside3'; > version: #'release3.2'; > load > > it loads the latest release 3.2 (which internally loads 3.2.1). The package is "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" > > This loads fine in Pharo 6 except that after installation the "Tools" -> "Seaside control panel" is not working anymore as > "NewListModel" is not found anymore. So the control panel is broken. Dont know what the migration path is for UI's > who used the removed "NewListModel" class. > > So yes - one can (by using the above script) use Seaside but currently has to start the server with a script > until this is fixed. This is good to know - but does not solve the "loading from catalog" issue. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > So (in a fresh image 60404) I loaded "Bootstrap" from catalog and I received the error Sven reported. > > But ConfigurationOfBootstrap itself is not the problem I guess. Because it is also only referencing the > "release3.2" version of Seaside and also "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" is loaded. > > > The Transcript shows the following error output: > > Loaded -> ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/ --- > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/Error: Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development > > Also when you try to open the ConfigurationOfSeaside3 using Versionner I receiver an error "Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development". > > So there must be something wrong with the Seaside config I thought - or (what would be worse) with the newer Metacello > version included in Pharo 6. At least the config looks OK and in both situations "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323" is used. > > Additionally I tried: > > - when I load the Bootstrap config in a fresh Pharo 5.0 image (50769) from Catalog all loads fine. > - when I manipulate the Pharo 6 image to have a version 5 signature > SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo5.0'. SystemVersion current inspect. > and load from catalog afterwards it also does not work. So I guess a Pharo 5.x specific config rule could not be the cause. > > > Now I checked how Catalog loads the configs. And in class CatalogProject you will notice that for the catalog we still use Gofer for loading > > installStableVersion > Gofer it > url: self repositoryUrl; > configurationOf: self name; > loadStable > > when I change it to Metacello API > > installStableVersion > Metacello new > repository: self repositoryUrl, '/',self name; > configuration: self name; > version: #'stable'; > load > > what a surprise: anything loads fine. I still wonder and do not know about the difference why Gofer and Metacello loading in Pharo 6 > makes a difference now. > > So we could fix it for the catalog ... still I have no glue about the Gofer/Metacello API difference ... > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19736/Catalog-should-use-Metacello-API-instead-of-Gofer-for-Configuration-installation > > > Thanks > T. |
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Hi Torsten,
> On 21 Feb 2017, at 14:24, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi, > > regarding the problem Sven mentioned on http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2017-February/030542.html > > here are my findings: > > When I use latest Pharo 6 (Image 60404) and run > > Metacello new > smalltalkhubUser: 'Seaside' project: 'MetacelloConfigurations'; > configuration: 'Seaside3'; > version: #'release3.2'; > load > > it loads the latest release 3.2 (which internally loads 3.2.1). The package is "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" Yes that worked for me too. I then had to load my own project using the same API, so not: ConfigurationOfBetaNineT3 project bleedingEdge load: 'trackit'. But: Metacello new configuration: 'BetaNineT3'; version: #bleedingEdge; load: 'trackit'. This then loaded Bootstrap as needed (with Seaside already present). > This loads fine in Pharo 6 except that after installation the "Tools" -> "Seaside control panel" is not working anymore as > "NewListModel" is not found anymore. So the control panel is broken. Dont know what the migration path is for UI's > who used the removed "NewListModel" class. Here is how I quickly patched the control panel: WAPharoServerAdapterSpecBrowser>>#initializeWidgets self instantiateModels: #( listModel ListModel textModel TextModel toolbarModel WAServerAdapterToolbar). WAPharoServerAdapterSpecBrowser>>initializePresenter self initializeAdaptors. textModel aboutToStyle: false. listModel whenSelectedItemChanged: [ :selection | adaptor := selection. self updateUIState]; whenListChanged: [ self updateUIState]; displayBlock: [ :item | (item class name,' ',item statusString) asStringMorph ]; "icons: [ :item | self iconForAdaptor: item]; iconMaxSize: 16@16;" menu: [ :aMenu | self adaptorsMenu: aMenu]. self focusOrder add: listModel; add: toolbarModel; add: textModel. self disableAllButtons So I replaced NewListModel with ListModel and I commented out the icon related stuff. This might be a bit too quick&dirty, I don't know. > So yes - one can (by using the above script) use Seaside but currently has to start the server with a script > until this is fixed. This is good to know - but does not solve the "loading from catalog" issue. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > So (in a fresh image 60404) I loaded "Bootstrap" from catalog and I received the error Sven reported. > > But ConfigurationOfBootstrap itself is not the problem I guess. Because it is also only referencing the > "release3.2" version of Seaside and also "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" is loaded. > > > The Transcript shows the following error output: > > Loaded -> ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323 --- http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/ --- > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/Error: Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development > > Also when you try to open the ConfigurationOfSeaside3 using Versionner I receiver an error "Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development". > > So there must be something wrong with the Seaside config I thought - or (what would be worse) with the newer Metacello > version included in Pharo 6. At least the config looks OK and in both situations "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323" is used. > > Additionally I tried: > > - when I load the Bootstrap config in a fresh Pharo 5.0 image (50769) from Catalog all loads fine. > - when I manipulate the Pharo 6 image to have a version 5 signature > SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo5.0'. SystemVersion current inspect. > and load from catalog afterwards it also does not work. So I guess a Pharo 5.x specific config rule could not be the cause. > > > Now I checked how Catalog loads the configs. And in class CatalogProject you will notice that for the catalog we still use Gofer for loading > > installStableVersion > Gofer it > url: self repositoryUrl; > configurationOf: self name; > loadStable > > when I change it to Metacello API > > installStableVersion > Metacello new > repository: self repositoryUrl, '/',self name; > configuration: self name; > version: #'stable'; > load > > what a surprise: anything loads fine. I still wonder and do not know about the difference why Gofer and Metacello loading in Pharo 6 > makes a difference now. > > So we could fix it for the catalog ... still I have no glue about the Gofer/Metacello API difference ... > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19736/Catalog-should-use-Metacello-API-instead-of-Gofer-for-Configuration-installation > > > Thanks > T. |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:24:32 +0100, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]>
wrote: > Hi, > > regarding the problem Sven mentioned on > http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2017-February/030542.html > > here are my findings: > > When I use latest Pharo 6 (Image 60404) and run > > Metacello new > smalltalkhubUser: 'Seaside' project: 'MetacelloConfigurations'; > configuration: 'Seaside3'; > version: #'release3.2'; > load > > it loads the latest release 3.2 (which internally loads 3.2.1). The > package is "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" > > This loads fine in Pharo 6 except that after installation the "Tools" -> > "Seaside control panel" is not working anymore as > "NewListModel" is not found anymore. So the control panel is broken. OOPS I thought that we deprecated it or not even removed it but changed the underlying implementation. We should fix that. > Dont know what the migration path is for UI's > who used the removed "NewListModel" class. > > So yes - one can (by using the above script) use Seaside but currently > has to start the server with a script > until this is fixed. This is good to know - but does not solve the > "loading from catalog" issue. > |
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I do not know when we removed NewListModel
We should check that. And probably update clients to use ListModel. Stef > Hi Torsten, > >> On 21 Feb 2017, at 14:24, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> regarding the problem Sven mentioned on >> http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2017-February/030542.html >> >> here are my findings: >> >> When I use latest Pharo 6 (Image 60404) and run >> >> Metacello new >> smalltalkhubUser: 'Seaside' project: 'MetacelloConfigurations'; >> configuration: 'Seaside3'; >> version: #'release3.2'; >> load >> >> it loads the latest release 3.2 (which internally loads 3.2.1). The >> package is "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" > > Yes that worked for me too. > > I then had to load my own project using the same API, so not: > > ConfigurationOfBetaNineT3 project bleedingEdge load: 'trackit'. > > But: > > Metacello new > configuration: 'BetaNineT3'; > version: #bleedingEdge; > load: 'trackit'. > > This then loaded Bootstrap as needed (with Seaside already present). > >> This loads fine in Pharo 6 except that after installation the "Tools" >> -> "Seaside control panel" is not working anymore as >> "NewListModel" is not found anymore. So the control panel is broken. >> Dont know what the migration path is for UI's >> who used the removed "NewListModel" class. > > Here is how I quickly patched the control panel: > > WAPharoServerAdapterSpecBrowser>>#initializeWidgets > > self instantiateModels: #( > listModel ListModel > textModel TextModel > toolbarModel WAServerAdapterToolbar). > > WAPharoServerAdapterSpecBrowser>>initializePresenter > > self initializeAdaptors. > > textModel aboutToStyle: false. > > listModel > whenSelectedItemChanged: [ :selection | adaptor := selection. self > updateUIState]; > whenListChanged: [ self updateUIState]; > displayBlock: [ :item | (item class name,' ',item statusString) > asStringMorph ]; > "icons: [ :item | self iconForAdaptor: item]; > iconMaxSize: 16@16;" > menu: [ :aMenu | self adaptorsMenu: aMenu]. > > self focusOrder > add: listModel; > add: toolbarModel; > add: textModel. > > self disableAllButtons > > So I replaced NewListModel with ListModel and I commented out the icon > related stuff. This might be a bit too quick&dirty, I don't know. > >> So yes - one can (by using the above script) use Seaside but currently >> has to start the server with a script >> until this is fixed. This is good to know - but does not solve the >> "loading from catalog" issue. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> So (in a fresh image 60404) I loaded "Bootstrap" from catalog and I >> received the error Sven reported. >> >> But ConfigurationOfBootstrap itself is not the problem I guess. Because >> it is also only referencing the >> "release3.2" version of Seaside and also >> "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323.mcz" is loaded. >> >> >> The Transcript shows the following error output: >> >> Loaded -> ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323 --- >> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/ --- >> http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main/Error: >> Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development >> >> Also when you try to open the ConfigurationOfSeaside3 using Versionner >> I receiver an error "Name not found: Seaside-Pharo-Development". >> >> So there must be something wrong with the Seaside config I thought - or >> (what would be worse) with the newer Metacello >> version included in Pharo 6. At least the config looks OK and in both >> situations "ConfigurationOfSeaside3-JohanBrichau.323" is used. >> >> Additionally I tried: >> >> - when I load the Bootstrap config in a fresh Pharo 5.0 image (50769) >> from Catalog all loads fine. >> - when I manipulate the Pharo 6 image to have a version 5 signature >> SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo5.0'. SystemVersion current >> inspect. >> and load from catalog afterwards it also does not work. So I guess a >> Pharo 5.x specific config rule could not be the cause. >> >> >> Now I checked how Catalog loads the configs. And in class >> CatalogProject you will notice that for the catalog we still use Gofer >> for loading >> >> installStableVersion >> Gofer it >> url: self repositoryUrl; >> configurationOf: self name; >> loadStable >> >> when I change it to Metacello API >> >> installStableVersion >> Metacello new >> repository: self repositoryUrl, '/',self name; >> configuration: self name; >> version: #'stable'; >> load >> >> what a surprise: anything loads fine. I still wonder and do not know >> about the difference why Gofer and Metacello loading in Pharo 6 >> makes a difference now. >> >> So we could fix it for the catalog ... still I have no glue about the >> Gofer/Metacello API difference ... >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19736/Catalog-should-use-Metacello-API-instead-of-Gofer-for-Configuration-installation >> >> >> Thanks >> T. > > -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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