Lumiere on Linux?

> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
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> ________________________________________
> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemuus [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:48 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>
> I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere.  Following the collaboractive book,
>
>  Gofer it
>       squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
>       package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
>       load.
>       ( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform: #loadDefault.
>
> led to a warning about DisplayList(??), but seemed to work otherwise.  Trying an example such as #testRenderingSphere gave an error trying open OpenGL.framework, which I had trouble finding on Linux.  Changing AlienOpenGLLibrary>>libraryName to answer 'libglut.so.3' gets it to the point of a segment fault, shown below.  Is glut the correct choice, or do I need to get or specify some other library?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> Segmentation fault
>
> Smalltalk stack dump:
> 0xbfd1714c I AlienOpenGLLibrary>glMatrixMode: 2033044028: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibrary
> 0xbfd17170 M [] in AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
> 0xbfd17190 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2033043980: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd171b4 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
> 0xbfd171d4 I AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>run: 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
> 0xbfd171f0 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>? 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
> 0xbfd17228 I Compiler>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: 2032491124: a(n) Compiler
> 0xbfd17268 I [] in OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
> 0xbfd17284 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032491080: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd172b8 I OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
> 0xbfd172d0 M [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd172f8 I [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17318 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17340 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd1735c M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17378 M OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>perform:orSendTo: 2024940940: a(n) OBDefinitionPanel
> 0xbfd173a8 I [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd173c8 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2032477540: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd173f0 I CursorWithMask(Cursor)>showWhile: 2002515888: a(n) CursorWithMask
> 0xbfd17418 I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd1743c I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>mouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17458 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>handleMouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17474 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2032130572: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
> 0xbfd17490 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>handleEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd174c0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd174e0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17500 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17534 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17554 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17574 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd17594 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd175b0 M MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd175d8 M [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd175f4 M [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd17610 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032130460: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd1763c M PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd17660 M HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd17688 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176ac M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176d0 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176fc M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
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> 0xbfd17738 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
> 0xbfd17754 M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd17770 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd1778c M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd101bc M WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd101d8 M PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10200 I MenuMorph>invokeModalAt:in:allowKeyboard: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd1022c I MenuMorph>invokeModal: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd10250 I MenuMorph>invokeModal 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd10274 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>yellowButtonActivity: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd10298 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>mouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd102b4 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleMouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd102d0 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2031927788: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
> 0xbfd102ec M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleEvent: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd10328 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10348 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10368 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd103a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd103c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd103e8 M TransformMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024963800: a(n) TransformMorph
> 0xbfd10428 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10448 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10468 M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd104a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd104c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd104e8 M OBGroupingMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024957608: a(n) OBGroupingMorph
> 0xbfd10528 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10548 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10568 M OBSystemWindow(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024944124: a(n) OBSystemWindow
> 0xbfd105a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd105c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd105e8 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10610 M PasteUpMorph>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10630 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10650 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd10674 M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd10698 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd106c4 M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd106dc M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10700 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
> 0xbfd1071c M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10738 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10754 M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10770 M PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10790 I [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 2004397340: a(n) Project class
> 2025126836 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess
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> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemuus [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:48 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>
> I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere.  Following the collaboractive book,
>
>  Gofer it
>       squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
>       package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
>       load.
>       ( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform: #loadDefault.
>
> led to a warning about DisplayList(??), but seemed to work otherwise.  Trying an example such as #testRenderingSphere gave an error trying open OpenGL.framework, which I had trouble finding on Linux.  Changing AlienOpenGLLibrary>>libraryName to answer 'libglut.so.3' gets it to the point of a segment fault, shown below.  Is glut the correct choice, or do I need to get or specify some other library?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> Segmentation fault
>
> Smalltalk stack dump:
> 0xbfd1714c I AlienOpenGLLibrary>glMatrixMode: 2033044028: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibrary
> 0xbfd17170 M [] in AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
> 0xbfd17190 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2033043980: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd171b4 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
> 0xbfd171d4 I AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>run: 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
> 0xbfd171f0 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>? 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
> 0xbfd17228 I Compiler>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: 2032491124: a(n) Compiler
> 0xbfd17268 I [] in OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
> 0xbfd17284 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032491080: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd172b8 I OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
> 0xbfd172d0 M [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd172f8 I [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17318 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17340 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd1735c M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17378 M OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>perform:orSendTo: 2024940940: a(n) OBDefinitionPanel
> 0xbfd173a8 I [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd173c8 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2032477540: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd173f0 I CursorWithMask(Cursor)>showWhile: 2002515888: a(n) CursorWithMask
> 0xbfd17418 I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd1743c I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>mouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17458 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>handleMouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17474 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2032130572: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
> 0xbfd17490 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>handleEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd174c0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd174e0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17500 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17534 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17554 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17574 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd17594 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd175b0 M MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd175d8 M [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd175f4 M [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd17610 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032130460: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd1763c M PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd17660 M HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd17688 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176ac M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176d0 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176fc M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
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> 0xbfd17738 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
> 0xbfd17754 M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd17770 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd1778c M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd101bc M WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd101d8 M PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10200 I MenuMorph>invokeModalAt:in:allowKeyboard: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd1022c I MenuMorph>invokeModal: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd10250 I MenuMorph>invokeModal 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd10274 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>yellowButtonActivity: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd10298 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>mouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd102b4 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleMouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd102d0 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2031927788: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
> 0xbfd102ec M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleEvent: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd10328 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10348 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10368 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd103a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd103c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd103e8 M TransformMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024963800: a(n) TransformMorph
> 0xbfd10428 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10448 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10468 M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd104a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd104c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd104e8 M OBGroupingMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024957608: a(n) OBGroupingMorph
> 0xbfd10528 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10548 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10568 M OBSystemWindow(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024944124: a(n) OBSystemWindow
> 0xbfd105a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd105c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd105e8 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10610 M PasteUpMorph>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10630 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10650 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd10674 M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd10698 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd106c4 M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd106dc M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10700 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
> 0xbfd1071c M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10738 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10754 M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd10770 M PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10790 I [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 2004397340: a(n) Project class
> 2025126836 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess
>
> Most recent primitives
> at:put:
> basicNew
> at:put:
> basicNew
> at:put:
> basicNew
> at:put:
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> at:put:
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> at:put:
> at:put:
> new
> value:value:
> value:value:
> basicNew
> size
> basicNew
> byteAt:put:
> byteAt:put:
> bitXor:
> size
> species
> basicNew:
> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
> basicNew:
> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
> basicNew:
> basicNew
> at:put:
> species
> basicNew:
> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
> size
> at:put:
> species
> basicNew:
> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
> size
> size
> size
> perform:withArguments:
> perform:withArguments:
> species
> basicNew
> new:
> value:
> perform:withArguments:
> at:put:
> perform:withArguments:
> species
> new:
> species
> new:
> species
> new:
> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
> newMethod:header:
> at:put:
> at:put:
> at:put:
> objectAt:put:
> objectAt:put:
> objectAt:put:
> objectAt:put:
> basicNew
> size
> objectAt:
> basicNew
> objectAt:
> at:put:
> at:put:
> at:put:
> at:put:
> value
> objectAt:
> size
> objectAt:
> objectAt:
> objectAt:
> objectAt:
> objectAt:
> objectAt:put:
> objectAt:
> objectAt:put:
> withArgs:executeMethod:
> basicNew
> perform:
> basicNew
> @
> basicNew
> primCreateRenderer:x:y:w:h:
> millisecondClockValue
> signal
> primSignal:atMilliseconds:
> millisecondClockValue
> wait
> primGetNextEvent:
> millisecondClockValue
> wait
> signal
> millisecondClockValue
> primSignal:atMilliseconds:
> millisecondClockValue
> wait
> signal
> wait
> at:put:
> primRender:getProperty:
> basicNew
> primLoadLibrary:
> basicNew:
> sizeFieldPut:
> unsignedLongAt:put:
> basicNew
> new:
> value
> value
> basicNew:
> sizeFieldPut:
> unsignedLongAt:put:
> basicNew
> at:put:
> primFindSymbol:
> basicNew:
> sizeFieldPut:
> addressFieldPut:
> primFFICallResult:with:
> Aborted
>
>
>
>
>

> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Jacas [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:07 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>
> Hi guys, as Alex said we are currently working on a quite simple 3d
> library entirely based on Morph.
> Right know there is only cubes and "3d lines" to play as we please, i
> will add some screenshots as soon as i have some spare time :)
>
> 2011/3/13 Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]>:
>> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemuus [[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:48 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>>
>> I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere.  Following the collaboractive book,
>>
>>  Gofer it
>>       squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
>>       package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
>>       load.
>>       ( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform: #loadDefault.
>>
>> led to a warning about DisplayList(??), but seemed to work otherwise.  Trying an example such as #testRenderingSphere gave an error trying open OpenGL.framework, which I had trouble finding on Linux.  Changing AlienOpenGLLibrary>>libraryName to answer 'libglut.so.3' gets it to the point of a segment fault, shown below.  Is glut the correct choice, or do I need to get or specify some other library?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Segmentation fault
>>
>> Smalltalk stack dump:
>> 0xbfd1714c I AlienOpenGLLibrary>glMatrixMode: 2033044028: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibrary
>> 0xbfd17170 M [] in AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>> 0xbfd17190 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2033043980: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd171b4 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>> 0xbfd171d4 I AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>run: 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>> 0xbfd171f0 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>? 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>> 0xbfd17228 I Compiler>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: 2032491124: a(n) Compiler
>> 0xbfd17268 I [] in OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
>> 0xbfd17284 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032491080: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd172b8 I OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
>> 0xbfd172d0 M [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd172f8 I [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd17318 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd17340 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd1735c M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd17378 M OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>perform:orSendTo: 2024940940: a(n) OBDefinitionPanel
>> 0xbfd173a8 I [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd173c8 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2032477540: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd173f0 I CursorWithMask(Cursor)>showWhile: 2002515888: a(n) CursorWithMask
>> 0xbfd17418 I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd1743c I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>mouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd17458 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>handleMouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd17474 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2032130572: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
>> 0xbfd17490 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>handleEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd174c0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd174e0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd17500 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd17534 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd17554 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd17574 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd17594 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd175b0 M MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd175d8 M [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd175f4 M [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd17610 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032130460: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd1763c M PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd17660 M HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd17688 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd176ac M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd176d0 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd176fc M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd17714 M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd17738 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>> 0xbfd17754 M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd17770 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd1778c M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd101bc M WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd101d8 M PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10200 I MenuMorph>invokeModalAt:in:allowKeyboard: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd1022c I MenuMorph>invokeModal: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd10250 I MenuMorph>invokeModal 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd10274 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>yellowButtonActivity: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd10298 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>mouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd102b4 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleMouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd102d0 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2031927788: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
>> 0xbfd102ec M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleEvent: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd10328 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10348 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10368 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd103a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd103c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd103e8 M TransformMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024963800: a(n) TransformMorph
>> 0xbfd10428 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10448 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10468 M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd104a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd104c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd104e8 M OBGroupingMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024957608: a(n) OBGroupingMorph
>> 0xbfd10528 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10548 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10568 M OBSystemWindow(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024944124: a(n) OBSystemWindow
>> 0xbfd105a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd105c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd105e8 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10610 M PasteUpMorph>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10630 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10650 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd10674 M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd10698 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd106c4 M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd106dc M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10700 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>> 0xbfd1071c M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10738 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10754 M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10770 M PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10790 I [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 2004397340: a(n) Project class
>> 2025126836 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess
>>
>> Most recent primitives
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> new:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> value:value:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> basicNew:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> basicNew:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> species
>> new:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> species
>> new:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> basicNew:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> basicNew:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> new
>> value:value:
>> value:value:
>> basicNew
>> size
>> basicNew
>> byteAt:put:
>> byteAt:put:
>> bitXor:
>> size
>> species
>> basicNew:
>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>> basicNew:
>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>> basicNew:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> species
>> basicNew:
>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>> size
>> at:put:
>> species
>> basicNew:
>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>> size
>> size
>> size
>> perform:withArguments:
>> perform:withArguments:
>> species
>> basicNew
>> new:
>> value:
>> perform:withArguments:
>> at:put:
>> perform:withArguments:
>> species
>> new:
>> species
>> new:
>> species
>> new:
>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>> newMethod:header:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> objectAt:put:
>> objectAt:put:
>> objectAt:put:
>> objectAt:put:
>> basicNew
>> size
>> objectAt:
>> basicNew
>> objectAt:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> at:put:
>> value
>> objectAt:
>> size
>> objectAt:
>> objectAt:
>> objectAt:
>> objectAt:
>> objectAt:
>> objectAt:put:
>> objectAt:
>> objectAt:put:
>> withArgs:executeMethod:
>> basicNew
>> perform:
>> basicNew
>> @
>> basicNew
>> primCreateRenderer:x:y:w:h:
>> millisecondClockValue
>> signal
>> primSignal:atMilliseconds:
>> millisecondClockValue
>> wait
>> primGetNextEvent:
>> millisecondClockValue
>> wait
>> signal
>> millisecondClockValue
>> primSignal:atMilliseconds:
>> millisecondClockValue
>> wait
>> signal
>> wait
>> at:put:
>> primRender:getProperty:
>> basicNew
>> primLoadLibrary:
>> basicNew:
>> sizeFieldPut:
>> unsignedLongAt:put:
>> basicNew
>> new:
>> value
>> value
>> basicNew:
>> sizeFieldPut:
>> unsignedLongAt:put:
>> basicNew
>> at:put:
>> primFindSymbol:
>> basicNew:
>> sizeFieldPut:
>> addressFieldPut:
>> primFFICallResult:with:
>> Aborted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> lets reign all together
>
>
>

>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Jacas [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:07 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>
> Hi guys, as Alex said we are currently working on a quite simple 3d
> library entirely based on Morph.
> Right know there is only cubes and "3d lines" to play as we please, i
> will add some screenshots as soon as i have some spare time :)
>
> 2011/3/13 Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]>:
>> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemuus [[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:48 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>>
>> I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere.  Following the collaboractive book,
>>
>> Gofer it
>>      squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
>>      package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
>>      load.
>>      ( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform: #loadDefault.
>>
>> led to a warning about DisplayList(??), but seemed to work otherwise.  Trying an example such as #testRenderingSphere gave an error trying open OpenGL.framework, which I had trouble finding on Linux.  Changing AlienOpenGLLibrary>>libraryName to answer 'libglut.so.3' gets it to the point of a segment fault, shown below.  Is glut the correct choice, or do I need to get or specify some other library?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Segmentation fault
>>
>> Smalltalk stack dump:
>> 0xbfd1714c I AlienOpenGLLibrary>glMatrixMode: 2033044028: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibrary
>> 0xbfd17170 M [] in AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>> 0xbfd17190 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2033043980: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd171b4 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>> 0xbfd171d4 I AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>run: 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>> 0xbfd171f0 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>? 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>> 0xbfd17228 I Compiler>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: 2032491124: a(n) Compiler
>> 0xbfd17268 I [] in OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
>> 0xbfd17284 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032491080: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd172b8 I OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
>> 0xbfd172d0 M [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd172f8 I [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd17318 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd17340 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd1735c M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd17378 M OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>perform:orSendTo: 2024940940: a(n) OBDefinitionPanel
>> 0xbfd173a8 I [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd173c8 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2032477540: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd173f0 I CursorWithMask(Cursor)>showWhile: 2002515888: a(n) CursorWithMask
>> 0xbfd17418 I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd1743c I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>mouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd17458 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>handleMouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd17474 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2032130572: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
>> 0xbfd17490 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>handleEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd174c0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd174e0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd17500 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>> 0xbfd17534 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd17554 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd17574 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd17594 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd175b0 M MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd175d8 M [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd175f4 M [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd17610 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032130460: a(n) BlockClosure
>> 0xbfd1763c M PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd17660 M HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd17688 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd176ac M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd176d0 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd176fc M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd17714 M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd17738 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>> 0xbfd17754 M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd17770 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd1778c M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd101bc M WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd101d8 M PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10200 I MenuMorph>invokeModalAt:in:allowKeyboard: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd1022c I MenuMorph>invokeModal: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd10250 I MenuMorph>invokeModal 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>> 0xbfd10274 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>yellowButtonActivity: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd10298 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>mouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd102b4 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleMouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd102d0 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2031927788: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
>> 0xbfd102ec M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleEvent: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd10328 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10348 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10368 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd103a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd103c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd103e8 M TransformMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024963800: a(n) TransformMorph
>> 0xbfd10428 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10448 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10468 M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>> 0xbfd104a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd104c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd104e8 M OBGroupingMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024957608: a(n) OBGroupingMorph
>> 0xbfd10528 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10548 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd10568 M OBSystemWindow(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024944124: a(n) OBSystemWindow
>> 0xbfd105a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd105c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>> 0xbfd105e8 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10610 M PasteUpMorph>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10630 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10650 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd10674 M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd10698 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd106c4 M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>> 0xbfd106dc M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10700 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>> 0xbfd1071c M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10738 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10754 M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>> 0xbfd10770 M PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>> 0xbfd10790 I [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 2004397340: a(n) Project class
>> 2025126836 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess
>>
>> Most recent primitives
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> --
> lets reign all together
>
>

>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>
> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>
> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Jacas [[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:07 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>>
>> Hi guys, as Alex said we are currently working on a quite simple 3d
>> library entirely based on Morph.
>> Right know there is only cubes and "3d lines" to play as we please, i
>> will add some screenshots as soon as i have some spare time :)
>>
>> 2011/3/13 Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]>:
>>> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemuus [[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:48 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>>>
>>> I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>> I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere.  Following the collaboractive book,
>>>
>>> Gofer it
>>>      squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
>>>      package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
>>>      load.
>>>      ( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform: #loadDefault.
>>>
>>> led to a warning about DisplayList(??), but seemed to work otherwise.  Trying an example such as #testRenderingSphere gave an error trying open OpenGL.framework, which I had trouble finding on Linux.  Changing AlienOpenGLLibrary>>libraryName to answer 'libglut.so.3' gets it to the point of a segment fault, shown below.  Is glut the correct choice, or do I need to get or specify some other library?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Segmentation fault
>>>
>>> Smalltalk stack dump:
>>> 0xbfd1714c I AlienOpenGLLibrary>glMatrixMode: 2033044028: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibrary
>>> 0xbfd17170 M [] in AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>>> 0xbfd17190 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2033043980: a(n) BlockClosure
>>> 0xbfd171b4 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>>> 0xbfd171d4 I AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>run: 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>>> 0xbfd171f0 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>? 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>>> 0xbfd17228 I Compiler>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: 2032491124: a(n) Compiler
>>> 0xbfd17268 I [] in OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
>>> 0xbfd17284 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032491080: a(n) BlockClosure
>>> 0xbfd172b8 I OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
>>> 0xbfd172d0 M [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd172f8 I [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd17318 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd17340 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd1735c M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd17378 M OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>perform:orSendTo: 2024940940: a(n) OBDefinitionPanel
>>> 0xbfd173a8 I [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>> 0xbfd173c8 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2032477540: a(n) BlockClosure
>>> 0xbfd173f0 I CursorWithMask(Cursor)>showWhile: 2002515888: a(n) CursorWithMask
>>> 0xbfd17418 I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>> 0xbfd1743c I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>mouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>> 0xbfd17458 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>handleMouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>> 0xbfd17474 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2032130572: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
>>> 0xbfd17490 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>handleEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>> 0xbfd174c0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd174e0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd17500 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>> 0xbfd17534 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd17554 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd17574 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>> 0xbfd17594 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>> 0xbfd175b0 M MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>> 0xbfd175d8 M [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd175f4 M [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>> 0xbfd17610 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032130460: a(n) BlockClosure
>>> 0xbfd1763c M PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>> 0xbfd17660 M HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd17688 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd176ac M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd176d0 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd176fc M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd17714 M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd17738 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>>> 0xbfd17754 M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd17770 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd1778c M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd101bc M WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd101d8 M PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>> 0xbfd10200 I MenuMorph>invokeModalAt:in:allowKeyboard: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>> 0xbfd1022c I MenuMorph>invokeModal: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>> 0xbfd10250 I MenuMorph>invokeModal 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>> 0xbfd10274 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>yellowButtonActivity: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd10298 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>mouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd102b4 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleMouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd102d0 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2031927788: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
>>> 0xbfd102ec M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleEvent: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd10328 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd10348 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd10368 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd103a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd103c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd103e8 M TransformMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024963800: a(n) TransformMorph
>>> 0xbfd10428 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd10448 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd10468 M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>> 0xbfd104a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd104c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd104e8 M OBGroupingMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024957608: a(n) OBGroupingMorph
>>> 0xbfd10528 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd10548 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd10568 M OBSystemWindow(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024944124: a(n) OBSystemWindow
>>> 0xbfd105a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd105c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>> 0xbfd105e8 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>> 0xbfd10610 M PasteUpMorph>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>> 0xbfd10630 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>> 0xbfd10650 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd10674 M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd10698 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd106c4 M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>> 0xbfd106dc M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd10700 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>>> 0xbfd1071c M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd10738 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd10754 M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>> 0xbfd10770 M PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>> 0xbfd10790 I [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 2004397340: a(n) Project class
>>> 2025126836 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess
>>>
>>> Most recent primitives
>>> at:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> at:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> at:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> at:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> at:put:
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>>> at:put:
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>>> at:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> new:
>>> at:put:
>>> at:put:
>>> value:value:
>>> at:put:
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>>> at:put:
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>>> at:put:
>>> species
>>> new:
>>> at:put:
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>>> species
>>> new:
>>> at:put:
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>>> new
>>> value:value:
>>> value:value:
>>> basicNew
>>> size
>>> basicNew
>>> byteAt:put:
>>> byteAt:put:
>>> bitXor:
>>> size
>>> species
>>> basicNew:
>>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>>> basicNew:
>>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>>> basicNew:
>>> basicNew
>>> at:put:
>>> species
>>> basicNew:
>>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>>> size
>>> at:put:
>>> species
>>> basicNew:
>>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>>> size
>>> size
>>> size
>>> perform:withArguments:
>>> perform:withArguments:
>>> species
>>> basicNew
>>> new:
>>> value:
>>> perform:withArguments:
>>> at:put:
>>> perform:withArguments:
>>> species
>>> new:
>>> species
>>> new:
>>> species
>>> new:
>>> replaceFrom:to:with:startingAt:
>>> newMethod:header:
>>> at:put:
>>> at:put:
>>> at:put:
>>> objectAt:put:
>>> objectAt:put:
>>> objectAt:put:
>>> objectAt:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> size
>>> objectAt:
>>> basicNew
>>> objectAt:
>>> at:put:
>>> at:put:
>>> at:put:
>>> at:put:
>>> value
>>> objectAt:
>>> size
>>> objectAt:
>>> objectAt:
>>> objectAt:
>>> objectAt:
>>> objectAt:
>>> objectAt:put:
>>> objectAt:
>>> objectAt:put:
>>> withArgs:executeMethod:
>>> basicNew
>>> perform:
>>> basicNew
>>> @
>>> basicNew
>>> primCreateRenderer:x:y:w:h:
>>> millisecondClockValue
>>> signal
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>>> millisecondClockValue
>>> wait
>>> primGetNextEvent:
>>> millisecondClockValue
>>> wait
>>> signal
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>>> primSignal:atMilliseconds:
>>> millisecondClockValue
>>> wait
>>> signal
>>> wait
>>> at:put:
>>> primRender:getProperty:
>>> basicNew
>>> primLoadLibrary:
>>> basicNew:
>>> sizeFieldPut:
>>> unsignedLongAt:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> new:
>>> value
>>> value
>>> basicNew:
>>> sizeFieldPut:
>>> unsignedLongAt:put:
>>> basicNew
>>> at:put:
>>> primFindSymbol:
>>> basicNew:
>>> sizeFieldPut:
>>> addressFieldPut:
>>> primFFICallResult:with:
>>> Aborted
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> lets reign all together
>>
>>
>
> --
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> Hi Alex,  i'm sad to hear that AlienOpenGL is not working for you, i'm
> currently not mainting it. IMO opinion the Croquet OpengL and Igor's
> native boost OpenGL are far better choices for interfacing with
> OpenGL.
> Lumiere is conceptually designed to work with any of the above, but
> currently tied to AlienOpenGL. Wouldn't take much to plug the other
> two, and you would get the high level abstractions over OpenGL that
> Lumiere offers.
>
> Regarding the boost, it highly depends on the 3D application being
> built. http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/advanced/advanced97/notes/node207.html#SECTION000181100000000000000
> Anyway, Croquet OpenGL does the computation on Smalltalk, (but i think
> FloatArray is using a plugin).With Lumiere i left the matrix
> calculations to OpenGL, but you get less functionality.
>
> The boost comes not from the matrix calculations but  because of the
> efficient rendering engine (parallel pipelines) implemented in low
> level language, as opposed doing everything in Smalltalk.
> Again, this depends on the 3D application being built.
>
> Regarding the tool that you mentioned,  how do you simulate 3D, in the
> 2D Morphic framework? I'm finding hard to understand how can you
> achieve a Morphic cube.
>
> Saludos,
> Fernando
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>>
>> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>>
>> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>

> from this message i learn that i have to kick my ass and continue
> working on NativeBoost,
> including its OpenGL bindings.
>
> Too bad, there is not much people who can do low level assembly + VM
> hacking + openGL hacking
> and interested in pushing NB forward and/or collaborating with me :(
>
> On 16 March 2011 00:17, Fernando Olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Alex,  i'm sad to hear that AlienOpenGL is not working for you, i'm
>> currently not mainting it. IMO opinion the Croquet OpengL and Igor's
>> native boost OpenGL are far better choices for interfacing with
>> OpenGL.
>> Lumiere is conceptually designed to work with any of the above, but
>> currently tied to AlienOpenGL. Wouldn't take much to plug the other
>> two, and you would get the high level abstractions over OpenGL that
>> Lumiere offers.
>>
>> Regarding the boost, it highly depends on the 3D application being
>> built. http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/advanced/advanced97/notes/node207.html#SECTION000181100000000000000
>> Anyway, Croquet OpenGL does the computation on Smalltalk, (but i think
>> FloatArray is using a plugin).With Lumiere i left the matrix
>> calculations to OpenGL, but you get less functionality.
>>
>> The boost comes not from the matrix calculations but  because of the
>> efficient rendering engine (parallel pipelines) implemented in low
>> level language, as opposed doing everything in Smalltalk.
>> Again, this depends on the 3D application being built.
>>
>> Regarding the tool that you mentioned,  how do you simulate 3D, in the
>> 2D Morphic framework? I'm finding hard to understand how can you
>> achieve a Morphic cube.
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Fernando
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>>>
>>> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>>>
>>> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>

> igor
>
> first a canvas because lot of people can help for using it and this will support parallelisation of actions.
>
> Stef
>
>> from this message i learn that i have to kick my ass and continue
>> working on NativeBoost,
>> including its OpenGL bindings.
>>
>> Too bad, there is not much people who can do low level assembly + VM
>> hacking + openGL hacking
>> and interested in pushing NB forward and/or collaborating with me :(
>>
>> On 16 March 2011 00:17, Fernando Olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,  i'm sad to hear that AlienOpenGL is not working for you, i'm
>>> currently not mainting it. IMO opinion the Croquet OpengL and Igor's
>>> native boost OpenGL are far better choices for interfacing with
>>> OpenGL.
>>> Lumiere is conceptually designed to work with any of the above, but
>>> currently tied to AlienOpenGL. Wouldn't take much to plug the other
>>> two, and you would get the high level abstractions over OpenGL that
>>> Lumiere offers.
>>>
>>> Regarding the boost, it highly depends on the 3D application being
>>> built. http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/advanced/advanced97/notes/node207.html#SECTION000181100000000000000
>>> Anyway, Croquet OpenGL does the computation on Smalltalk, (but i think
>>> FloatArray is using a plugin).With Lumiere i left the matrix
>>> calculations to OpenGL, but you get less functionality.
>>>
>>> The boost comes not from the matrix calculations but  because of the
>>> efficient rendering engine (parallel pipelines) implemented in low
>>> level language, as opposed doing everything in Smalltalk.
>>> Again, this depends on the 3D application being built.
>>>
>>> Regarding the tool that you mentioned,  how do you simulate 3D, in the
>>> 2D Morphic framework? I'm finding hard to understand how can you
>>> achieve a Morphic cube.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Fernando
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>>>>
>>>> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>>>>
>>>> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>
>
>

> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemuus [[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:48 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>
> I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere.  Following the collaboractive book,
>
>  Gofer it
>       squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
>       package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
>       load.
>       ( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform: #loadDefault.
>
> led to a warning about DisplayList(??), but seemed to work otherwise.  Trying an example such as #testRenderingSphere gave an error trying open OpenGL.framework, which I had trouble finding on Linux.  Changing AlienOpenGLLibrary>>libraryName to answer 'libglut.so.3' gets it to the point of a segment fault, shown below.  Is glut the correct choice, or do I need to get or specify some other library?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> Segmentation fault
>
> Smalltalk stack dump:
> 0xbfd1714c I AlienOpenGLLibrary>glMatrixMode: 2033044028: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibrary
> 0xbfd17170 M [] in AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
> 0xbfd17190 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2033043980: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd171b4 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
> 0xbfd171d4 I AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>run: 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
> 0xbfd171f0 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>? 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
> 0xbfd17228 I Compiler>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: 2032491124: a(n) Compiler
> 0xbfd17268 I [] in OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
> 0xbfd17284 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032491080: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd172b8 I OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
> 0xbfd172d0 M [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd172f8 I [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17318 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17340 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd1735c M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd17378 M OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>perform:orSendTo: 2024940940: a(n) OBDefinitionPanel
> 0xbfd173a8 I [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd173c8 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2032477540: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd173f0 I CursorWithMask(Cursor)>showWhile: 2002515888: a(n) CursorWithMask
> 0xbfd17418 I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd1743c I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>mouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17458 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>handleMouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17474 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2032130572: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
> 0xbfd17490 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>handleEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd174c0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd174e0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17500 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
> 0xbfd17534 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17554 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd17574 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd17594 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd175b0 M MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd175d8 M [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd175f4 M [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd17610 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032130460: a(n) BlockClosure
> 0xbfd1763c M PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd17660 M HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd17688 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176ac M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176d0 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd176fc M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd17714 M [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd17738 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
> 0xbfd17754 M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd17770 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd1778c M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd101bc M WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
> 0xbfd101d8 M PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10200 I MenuMorph>invokeModalAt:in:allowKeyboard: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd1022c I MenuMorph>invokeModal: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd10250 I MenuMorph>invokeModal 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
> 0xbfd10274 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>yellowButtonActivity: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd10298 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>mouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd102b4 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleMouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd102d0 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2031927788: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
> 0xbfd102ec M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleEvent: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd10328 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10348 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10368 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd103a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd103c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd103e8 M TransformMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024963800: a(n) TransformMorph
> 0xbfd10428 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10448 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10468 M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
> 0xbfd104a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd104c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd104e8 M OBGroupingMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024957608: a(n) OBGroupingMorph
> 0xbfd10528 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10548 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd10568 M OBSystemWindow(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024944124: a(n) OBSystemWindow
> 0xbfd105a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd105c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
> 0xbfd105e8 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10610 M PasteUpMorph>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10630 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
> 0xbfd10650 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
> 0xbfd10674 M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
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> 0xbfd10700 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
> 0xbfd1071c M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
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>
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>
>
>
>
>

>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>>
>> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>>
>> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Jacas [[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:07 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>>>
>>> Hi guys, as Alex said we are currently working on a quite simple 3d
>>> library entirely based on Morph.
>>> Right know there is only cubes and "3d lines" to play as we please, i
>>> will add some screenshots as soon as i have some spare time :)
>>>
>>> 2011/3/13 Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Using libGL.so.1 gives similar results :(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lemuus [[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:48 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Lumiere on Linux?
>>>>
>>>> I think that the correct choice is libGL.so,but I'm just guessing.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>> I tried the 1.2 one-click with Lumiere.  Following the collaboractive book,
>>>>
>>>> Gofer it
>>>>      squeaksource: 'Lumiere';
>>>>      package: 'ConfigurationOfLumiere';
>>>>      load.
>>>>      ( Smalltalk globals classNamed:'ConfigurationOfLumiere' ) perform: #loadDefault.
>>>>
>>>> led to a warning about DisplayList(??), but seemed to work otherwise.  Trying an example such as #testRenderingSphere gave an error trying open OpenGL.framework, which I had trouble finding on Linux.  Changing AlienOpenGLLibrary>>libraryName to answer 'libglut.so.3' gets it to the point of a segment fault, shown below.  Is glut the correct choice, or do I need to get or specify some other library?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Segmentation fault
>>>>
>>>> Smalltalk stack dump:
>>>> 0xbfd1714c I AlienOpenGLLibrary>glMatrixMode: 2033044028: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibrary
>>>> 0xbfd17170 M [] in AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>>>> 0xbfd17190 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2033043980: a(n) BlockClosure
>>>> 0xbfd171b4 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples>testRenderingSphere 2033042940: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples
>>>> 0xbfd171d4 I AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>run: 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>>>> 0xbfd171f0 M AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class>? 2024758496: a(n) AlienOpenGLLibraryExamples class
>>>> 0xbfd17228 I Compiler>evaluate:in:to:notifying:ifFail:logged: 2032491124: a(n) Compiler
>>>> 0xbfd17268 I [] in OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd17284 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032491080: a(n) BlockClosure
>>>> 0xbfd172b8 I OBTextMorphEditorWithShout(SmalltalkEditor)>evaluateSelection 2025101912: a(n) OBTextMorphEditorWithShout
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>>>> 0xbfd172f8 I [] in OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd17318 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd17340 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>handleEdit: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd1735c M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>doIt 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd17378 M OBDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>perform:orSendTo: 2024940940: a(n) OBDefinitionPanel
>>>> 0xbfd173a8 I [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>>> 0xbfd173c8 M BlockClosure>ensure: 2032477540: a(n) BlockClosure
>>>> 0xbfd173f0 I CursorWithMask(Cursor)>showWhile: 2002515888: a(n) CursorWithMask
>>>> 0xbfd17418 I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>invokeWithEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>>> 0xbfd1743c I ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>mouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>>> 0xbfd17458 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>handleMouseUp: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
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>>>> 0xbfd17490 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>handleEvent: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>>> 0xbfd174c0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd174e0 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd17500 M ToggleMenuItemMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2031928172: a(n) ToggleMenuItemMorph
>>>> 0xbfd17534 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with: 2032130556: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
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>>>> 0xbfd17594 M MenuMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>>> 0xbfd175b0 M MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>>> 0xbfd175d8 M [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd175f4 M [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>>> 0xbfd17610 M BlockClosure>on:do: 2032130460: a(n) BlockClosure
>>>> 0xbfd1763c M PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>>> 0xbfd17660 M HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd17688 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd176ac M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd176d0 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd176fc M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
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>>>> 0xbfd17738 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>>>> 0xbfd17754 M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>>> 0xbfd17770 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>>> 0xbfd1778c M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>>> 0xbfd101bc M WorldState>doOneSubCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>>> 0xbfd101d8 M PasteUpMorph>doOneSubCycle 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10200 I MenuMorph>invokeModalAt:in:allowKeyboard: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>>> 0xbfd1022c I MenuMorph>invokeModal: 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10250 I MenuMorph>invokeModal 2031927856: a(n) MenuMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10274 I OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>yellowButtonActivity: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd10298 I OBTextMorphWithShout(TextMorphForEditView)>mouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd102b4 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleMouseDown: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd102d0 M MouseButtonEvent>sentTo: 2031927788: a(n) MouseButtonEvent
>>>> 0xbfd102ec M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>handleEvent: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd10328 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd10348 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd10368 M OBTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024964024: a(n) OBTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd103a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd103c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd103e8 M TransformMorph(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024963800: a(n) TransformMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10428 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd10448 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd10468 M OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024962936: a(n) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout
>>>> 0xbfd104a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd104c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
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>>>> 0xbfd10528 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd10548 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd10568 M OBSystemWindow(Morph)>processEvent:using: 2024944124: a(n) OBSystemWindow
>>>> 0xbfd105a8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchMouseDown:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
>>>> 0xbfd105c8 M MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with: 2031927596: a(n) MorphicEventDispatcher
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>>>> 0xbfd10610 M PasteUpMorph>processEvent:using: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10630 M PasteUpMorph(Morph)>processEvent: 2003523448: a(n) PasteUpMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10650 M HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10674 M HandMorph>sendMouseEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd10698 M HandMorph>handleEvent: 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
>>>> 0xbfd106c4 M HandMorph>processEvents 2002449320: a(n) HandMorph
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>>>> 0xbfd10700 M Array(SequenceableCollection)>do: 2001081712: a(n) Array
>>>> 0xbfd1071c M WorldState>handsDo: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>>> 0xbfd10738 M WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
>>>> 0xbfd10754 M WorldState>doOneCycleFor: 2004924588: a(n) WorldState
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>>>> 0xbfd10790 I [] in Project class>spawnNewProcess 2004397340: a(n) Project class
>>>> 2025126836 s [] in BlockClosure>newProcess
>>>>
>>>> Most recent primitives
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>>>> at:put:
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>>>> size
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>>>> basicNew
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>>>> basicNew
>>>> @
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>>>> millisecondClockValue
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>>>> millisecondClockValue
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>>>> millisecondClockValue
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>>>> millisecondClockValue
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>>>> basicNew
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>>>> basicNew:
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>>>> unsignedLongAt:put:
>>>> basicNew
>>>> new:
>>>> value
>>>> value
>>>> basicNew:
>>>> sizeFieldPut:
>>>> unsignedLongAt:put:
>>>> basicNew
>>>> at:put:
>>>> primFindSymbol:
>>>> basicNew:
>>>> sizeFieldPut:
>>>> addressFieldPut:
>>>> primFFICallResult:with:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> lets reign all together
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

> from this message i learn that i have to kick my ass and continue
> working on NativeBoost,
> including its OpenGL bindings.
>
> Too bad, there is not much people who can do low level assembly + VM
> hacking + openGL hacking
> and interested in pushing NB forward and/or collaborating with me :(
>
> On 16 March 2011 00:17, Fernando Olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi Alex,  i'm sad to hear that AlienOpenGL is not working for you, i'm
>> currently not mainting it. IMO opinion the Croquet OpengL and Igor's
>> native boost OpenGL are far better choices for interfacing with
>> OpenGL.
>> Lumiere is conceptually designed to work with any of the above, but
>> currently tied to AlienOpenGL. Wouldn't take much to plug the other
>> two, and you would get the high level abstractions over OpenGL that
>> Lumiere offers.
>>
>> Regarding the boost, it highly depends on the 3D application being
>> built. http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/advanced/advanced97/notes/node207.html#SECTION000181100000000000000
>> Anyway, Croquet OpenGL does the computation on Smalltalk, (but i think
>> FloatArray is using a plugin).With Lumiere i left the matrix
>> calculations to OpenGL, but you get less functionality.
>>
>> The boost comes not from the matrix calculations but  because of the
>> efficient rendering engine (parallel pipelines) implemented in low
>> level language, as opposed doing everything in Smalltalk.
>> Again, this depends on the 3D application being built.
>>
>> Regarding the tool that you mentioned,  how do you simulate 3D, in the
>> 2D Morphic framework? I'm finding hard to understand how can you
>> achieve a Morphic cube.
>>
>> Saludos,
>> Fernando
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>>>
>>> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>>>
>>> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
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> I am wondering how this will be practical (I have no mean to be arrogant, I just try to understand). Is this tied to a particular platform? Will it work on Linux and Windows? Cog or No-Cog?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 15 Mar 2011, at 21:01, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> from this message i learn that i have to kick my ass and continue
>> working on NativeBoost,
>> including its OpenGL bindings.
>>
>> Too bad, there is not much people who can do low level assembly + VM
>> hacking + openGL hacking
>> and interested in pushing NB forward and/or collaborating with me :(
>>
>> On 16 March 2011 00:17, Fernando Olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,  i'm sad to hear that AlienOpenGL is not working for you, i'm
>>> currently not mainting it. IMO opinion the Croquet OpengL and Igor's
>>> native boost OpenGL are far better choices for interfacing with
>>> OpenGL.
>>> Lumiere is conceptually designed to work with any of the above, but
>>> currently tied to AlienOpenGL. Wouldn't take much to plug the other
>>> two, and you would get the high level abstractions over OpenGL that
>>> Lumiere offers.
>>>
>>> Regarding the boost, it highly depends on the 3D application being
>>> built. http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/advanced/advanced97/notes/node207.html#SECTION000181100000000000000
>>> Anyway, Croquet OpenGL does the computation on Smalltalk, (but i think
>>> FloatArray is using a plugin).With Lumiere i left the matrix
>>> calculations to OpenGL, but you get less functionality.
>>>
>>> The boost comes not from the matrix calculations but  because of the
>>> efficient rendering engine (parallel pipelines) implemented in low
>>> level language, as opposed doing everything in Smalltalk.
>>> Again, this depends on the 3D application being built.
>>>
>>> Regarding the tool that you mentioned,  how do you simulate 3D, in the
>>> 2D Morphic framework? I'm finding hard to understand how can you
>>> achieve a Morphic cube.
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>> Fernando
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>>>>
>>>> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>>>>
>>>> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>
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> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Alexandre Bergel
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I am wondering how this will be practical (I have no mean to be arrogant, I just try to understand). Is this tied to a particular platform? Will it work on Linux and Windows? Cog or No-Cog?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 15 Mar 2011, at 21:01, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>>> from this message i learn that i have to kick my ass and continue
>>> working on NativeBoost,
>>> including its OpenGL bindings.
>>>
>>> Too bad, there is not much people who can do low level assembly + VM
>>> hacking + openGL hacking
>>> and interested in pushing NB forward and/or collaborating with me :(
>>>
>>> On 16 March 2011 00:17, Fernando Olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Alex,  i'm sad to hear that AlienOpenGL is not working for you, i'm
>>>> currently not mainting it. IMO opinion the Croquet OpengL and Igor's
>>>> native boost OpenGL are far better choices for interfacing with
>>>> OpenGL.
>>>> Lumiere is conceptually designed to work with any of the above, but
>>>> currently tied to AlienOpenGL. Wouldn't take much to plug the other
>>>> two, and you would get the high level abstractions over OpenGL that
>>>> Lumiere offers.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the boost, it highly depends on the 3D application being
>>>> built. http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/advanced/advanced97/notes/node207.html#SECTION000181100000000000000
>>>> Anyway, Croquet OpenGL does the computation on Smalltalk, (but i think
>>>> FloatArray is using a plugin).With Lumiere i left the matrix
>>>> calculations to OpenGL, but you get less functionality.
>>>>
>>>> The boost comes not from the matrix calculations but  because of the
>>>> efficient rendering engine (parallel pipelines) implemented in low
>>>> level language, as opposed doing everything in Smalltalk.
>>>> Again, this depends on the 3D application being built.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the tool that you mentioned,  how do you simulate 3D, in the
>>>> 2D Morphic framework? I'm finding hard to understand how can you
>>>> achieve a Morphic cube.
>>>>
>>>> Saludos,
>>>> Fernando
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> Great.   What about the usual "native code" speed boost?  Are you writing a plugin, or is it all Smalltalk code?
>>>>>
>>>>> It is all Smalltalk code. We are not against native libraries, however we could not make it run. And so, after several months of intensive tries. So, in order to make some progress, we coded a 3d engine in Smalltalk. Actually, this is not difficult (for basic functionalities such as light, cubes, camera -- no texture and complex light rendering). I did a 2d engine for Mondrian. So having a 3d engine should not be that hard (actually it is not). The nice advantage, that it should work on the ipad, iphone, web, ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Other things, I would be surprise to have a significant boost by using OpenGL for rendering objects if all the matrix computations are realized in Smalltalk. Anyone can comment on it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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