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Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

johnmci
Yes it compiles, yes after a bit of poking I could take a Squeak3.9-
final-7067.image and build a closure aware image.
No I could not do that without poking a bit, however I hope that we'll  
resolve the problems in a day or two.

Yes, I could take a Pharo0.1Core-10243.image and after more poking  
could generate a closure aware Pharo image.

At this time the 4.0.0b1 VM is not publicly available, another day or  
two of cross checking is required, I've asked the Pharo
team to review my changes and the changes from Eliot. I've also asked  
Eliot to supply some fixes so we can recompile
the  Squeak3.9-final-7067 image without problems.

I cannot speak for the 3.10 or 3.11 images, other parties will need to  
pursue any work to make them closure aware.

Tomorrow I'll poke at making the iPhone VM closure aware, however any  
iPhone image relies on the Pharo team resolving
what the change sets should be to make the image closure aware.

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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

Stéphane Ducasse
Hi pharoers

what do we do with the closure compiler?
Do we integrate it now or in 1.1

Stef

On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:48 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:

> Yes it compiles, yes after a bit of poking I could take a Squeak3.9-
> final-7067.image and build a closure aware image.
> No I could not do that without poking a bit, however I hope that we'll
> resolve the problems in a day or two.
>
> Yes, I could take a Pharo0.1Core-10243.image and after more poking
> could generate a closure aware Pharo image.
>
> At this time the 4.0.0b1 VM is not publicly available, another day or
> two of cross checking is required, I've asked the Pharo
> team to review my changes and the changes from Eliot. I've also asked
> Eliot to supply some fixes so we can recompile
> the  Squeak3.9-final-7067 image without problems.
>
> I cannot speak for the 3.10 or 3.11 images, other parties will need to
> pursue any work to make them closure aware.
>
> Tomorrow I'll poke at making the iPhone VM closure aware, however any
> iPhone image relies on the Pharo team resolving
> what the change sets should be to make the image closure aware.
>
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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

Lukas Renggli
On the board opposite of my desk it says Pharo 1.1, but frankly I
would like to see it in 1.0 as soon as possible.

Lukas

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi pharoers
>
> what do we do with the closure compiler?
> Do we integrate it now or in 1.1
>
> Stef
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:48 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>
>> Yes it compiles, yes after a bit of poking I could take a Squeak3.9-
>> final-7067.image and build a closure aware image.
>> No I could not do that without poking a bit, however I hope that we'll
>> resolve the problems in a day or two.
>>
>> Yes, I could take a Pharo0.1Core-10243.image and after more poking
>> could generate a closure aware Pharo image.
>>
>> At this time the 4.0.0b1 VM is not publicly available, another day or
>> two of cross checking is required, I've asked the Pharo
>> team to review my changes and the changes from Eliot. I've also asked
>> Eliot to supply some fixes so we can recompile
>> the  Squeak3.9-final-7067 image without problems.
>>
>> I cannot speak for the 3.10 or 3.11 images, other parties will need to
>> pursue any work to make them closure aware.
>>
>> Tomorrow I'll poke at making the iPhone VM closure aware, however any
>> iPhone image relies on the Pharo team resolving
>> what the change sets should be to make the image closure aware.
>>
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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

Igor Stasenko
In reply to this post by Stéphane Ducasse
2009/3/4 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
> Hi pharoers
>
> what do we do with the closure compiler?
> Do we integrate it now or in 1.1
>
in 0.1 :)

> Stef
> - Show quoted text -
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:48 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>
>> Yes it compiles, yes after a bit of poking I could take a Squeak3.9-
>> final-7067.image and build a closure aware image.
>> No I could not do that without poking a bit, however I hope that we'll
>> resolve the problems in a day or two.
>>
>> Yes, I could take a Pharo0.1Core-10243.image and after more poking
>> could generate a closure aware Pharo image.
>>
>> At this time the 4.0.0b1 VM is not publicly available, another day or
>> two of cross checking is required, I've asked the Pharo
>> team to review my changes and the changes from Eliot. I've also asked
>> Eliot to supply some fixes so we can recompile
>> the  Squeak3.9-final-7067 image without problems.
>>
>> I cannot speak for the 3.10 or 3.11 images, other parties will need to
>> pursue any work to make them closure aware.
>>
>> Tomorrow I'll poke at making the iPhone VM closure aware, however any
>> iPhone image relies on the Pharo team resolving
>> what the change sets should be to make the image closure aware.
>>
>> --
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>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

Adrian Lienhard
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Do the major VMs (Unix, Mac, Win) support this *now*?
What is the required work to include the closure changes (are they  
published somewhere?)?

I'd like to avoid that we get a dependency on VMs that would delay  
version 1.0. If everything is ready, though, I would also vote for  
including them now.

Cheers,
Adrian

On Mar 4, 2009, at 17:25 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> Hi pharoers
>
> what do we do with the closure compiler?
> Do we integrate it now or in 1.1
>
> Stef
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:48 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>
>> Yes it compiles, yes after a bit of poking I could take a Squeak3.9-
>> final-7067.image and build a closure aware image.
>> No I could not do that without poking a bit, however I hope that  
>> we'll
>> resolve the problems in a day or two.
>>
>> Yes, I could take a Pharo0.1Core-10243.image and after more poking
>> could generate a closure aware Pharo image.
>>
>> At this time the 4.0.0b1 VM is not publicly available, another day or
>> two of cross checking is required, I've asked the Pharo
>> team to review my changes and the changes from Eliot. I've also asked
>> Eliot to supply some fixes so we can recompile
>> the  Squeak3.9-final-7067 image without problems.
>>
>> I cannot speak for the 3.10 or 3.11 images, other parties will need  
>> to
>> pursue any work to make them closure aware.
>>
>> Tomorrow I'll poke at making the iPhone VM closure aware, however any
>> iPhone image relies on the Pharo team resolving
>> what the change sets should be to make the image closure aware.
>>
>> --
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>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

Stéphane Ducasse
sounds a good attitude.
We should fix the rest of the items then.

Stef

On Mar 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:

> Do the major VMs (Unix, Mac, Win) support this *now*?
> What is the required work to include the closure changes (are they
> published somewhere?)?
>
> I'd like to avoid that we get a dependency on VMs that would delay
> version 1.0. If everything is ready, though, I would also vote for
> including them now.
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>
> On Mar 4, 2009, at 17:25 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi pharoers
>>
>> what do we do with the closure compiler?
>> Do we integrate it now or in 1.1
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:48 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>>
>>> Yes it compiles, yes after a bit of poking I could take a Squeak3.9-
>>> final-7067.image and build a closure aware image.
>>> No I could not do that without poking a bit, however I hope that
>>> we'll
>>> resolve the problems in a day or two.
>>>
>>> Yes, I could take a Pharo0.1Core-10243.image and after more poking
>>> could generate a closure aware Pharo image.
>>>
>>> At this time the 4.0.0b1 VM is not publicly available, another day  
>>> or
>>> two of cross checking is required, I've asked the Pharo
>>> team to review my changes and the changes from Eliot. I've also  
>>> asked
>>> Eliot to supply some fixes so we can recompile
>>> the  Squeak3.9-final-7067 image without problems.
>>>
>>> I cannot speak for the 3.10 or 3.11 images, other parties will need
>>> to
>>> pursue any work to make them closure aware.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow I'll poke at making the iPhone VM closure aware, however  
>>> any
>>> iPhone image relies on the Pharo team resolving
>>> what the change sets should be to make the image closure aware.
>>>
>>> --
>>> =
>>> =
>>> =
>>> =
>>> =
>>> =
>>> =
>>> ====================================================================
>>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

johnmci
If the unix vm hasn't been updated with basic fixes or even critical  
fixes  for the last two years, why would you put it on the critical  
decision path?

The macintosh VM is available now, and I'd guess a windows VM should  
be available since no-doubt qwaq has been building a windows one for  
bleeding edge deployment since
all this work (and more) is being funded by qwaq.


On 4-Mar-09, at 9:19 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> sounds a good attitude.
> We should fix the rest of the items then.
>
> Stef
>
> On Mar 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>
>> Do the major VMs (Unix, Mac, Win) support this *now*?
>> What is the required work to include the closure changes (are they
>> published somewhere?)?
>>
>> I'd like to avoid that we get a dependency on VMs that would delay
>> version 1.0. If everything is ready, though, I would also vote for
>> including them now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian
>>

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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

Stéphane Ducasse
Indeed.  john you are probably right and it can be a good way to make  
sure that one bold guy
will build a unix VM and this way we can avoid a deadlock

On Mar 4, 2009, at 8:01 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:

> If the unix vm hasn't been updated with basic fixes or even critical
> fixes  for the last two years, why would you put it on the critical
> decision path?
>
> The macintosh VM is available now, and I'd guess a windows VM should
> be available since no-doubt qwaq has been building a windows one for
> bleeding edge deployment since
> all this work (and more) is being funded by qwaq.
>
>
> On 4-Mar-09, at 9:19 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> sounds a good attitude.
>> We should fix the rest of the items then.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>
>>> Do the major VMs (Unix, Mac, Win) support this *now*?
>>> What is the required work to include the closure changes (are they
>>> published somewhere?)?
>>>
>>> I'd like to avoid that we get a dependency on VMs that would delay
>>> version 1.0. If everything is ready, though, I would also vote for
>>> including them now.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adrian
>>>
>
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Re: Mac Carbon VM 4.0.0b1 Closure Compiler Aware with Alien support

johnmci
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I've stuck this VM on my iDisk & ftp site in the EXPERIMENTAL folder
found via http://smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

Please note the post on the Pharo list about the building and  
availability of the windows & unix VM with closure support.


On 2-Mar-09, at 9:48 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:

> Yes it compiles, yes after a bit of poking I could take a Squeak3.9-
> final-7067.image and build a closure aware image.
> No I could not do that without poking a bit, however I hope that  
> we'll resolve the problems in a day or two.
>
> Yes, I could take a Pharo0.1Core-10243.image and after more poking  
> could generate a closure aware Pharo image.
>
> At this time the 4.0.0b1 VM is not publicly available, another day  
> or two of cross checking is required, I've asked the Pharo
> team to review my changes and the changes from Eliot. I've also  
> asked Eliot to supply some fixes so we can recompile
> the  Squeak3.9-final-7067 image without problems.
>
> I cannot speak for the 3.10 or 3.11 images, other parties will need  
> to pursue any work to make them closure aware.
>
> Tomorrow I'll poke at making the iPhone VM closure aware, however  
> any iPhone image relies on the Pharo team resolving
> what the change sets should be to make the image closure aware.

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