Mac like editing?

> Hi everyone.
>
> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>
> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>
> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>
> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>
> Max
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> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>
> Stef
>
>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>
>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>
>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>
>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>
>> Max
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> No I haven't. I'll take a look at it later on.
> Are you planning to replace Paragraph with Editor?
>
> Max
>
>
> On 22.07.2010, at 20:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
>> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>>
>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>
>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>>
>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>>
>>> Max
>>> _______________________________________________
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> No I haven't. I'll take a look at it later on.
> Are you planning to replace Paragraph with Editor?
>
> Max
>
>
> On 22.07.2010, at 20:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
>> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>>
>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>
>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>>
>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>>
>>> Max
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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> I guess that they did that in squeak can you check?
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Max Leske wrote:
>
>> No I haven't. I'll take a look at it later on.
>> Are you planning to replace Paragraph with Editor?
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> On 22.07.2010, at 20:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
>>> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>>>
>>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>>
>>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>>
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> I guess that they did that in squeak can you check?
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Max Leske wrote:
>
>> No I haven't. I'll take a look at it later on.
>> Are you planning to replace Paragraph with Editor?
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> On 22.07.2010, at 20:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
>>> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>>>
>>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>>
>>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>>
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> I checked Squeak 4.1 basic image (Damien's server didn't let me download the SqueakDev image). There are no preferences in the preferences browser for editing shortcuts. The only shortcut I could verify was cmd + -> and cmd + <- for skipping words (I have that in my list as alt + -> and alt + <-). There seem to be a couple of other nice shortcuts (e.g. advancing to the next argument when typing a multi argument message) but I's prefer the basic shortcuts would work...
>
> There is an Editor class with two sub classes that has replaced a former implementation (apparently TextMorphEditor). I couldn't figure out where the shortcuts are actually defined though.
>
> Max
>
> On 22.07.2010, at 20:14, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> I guess that they did that in squeak can you check?
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Max Leske wrote:
>>
>>> No I haven't. I'll take a look at it later on.
>>> Are you planning to replace Paragraph with Editor?
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22.07.2010, at 20:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
>>>> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>>>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>>>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>>>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>>>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>>>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>>>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>>>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Max
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>
>>>>
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>
> Hi everyone.
> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>
> cmd + -> : go to end of line
> cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
> alt + -> : go to end of the current word
> alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
> alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
> alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
> cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>
> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
> Max
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> Hi,
> I tried some of these in Mac TextEdit, and they don't all work as advertised.
> Anyway, please don't let the feel become Maccentric.
> Let us rather choose among native (default ?), classic squeak, or customizable.
>
> Nicolas
>
> 2010/7/22 Max Leske <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>
>> cmd + -> : go to end of line
>> cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>> alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>> alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>> alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>> alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>> cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>
>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>> Max
>> _______________________________________________
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> yes
> this is the idea.
> something that we can plug I want emacs bindings :)
> Stef
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I tried some of these in Mac TextEdit, and they don't all work as advertised.
>> Anyway, please don't let the feel become Maccentric.
>> Let us rather choose among native (default ?), classic squeak, or customizable.
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> 2010/7/22 Max Leske <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>>
>>> cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>> cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>> alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>> alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>> alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>> alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>> cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>
>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>> Max
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
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> I checked Squeak 4.1 basic image (Damien's server didn't let me download the SqueakDev image). There are no preferences in the preferences browser for editing shortcuts. The only shortcut I could verify was cmd + -> and cmd + <- for skipping words (I have that in my list as alt + -> and alt + <-). There seem to be a couple of other nice shortcuts (e.g. advancing to the next argument when typing a multi argument message) but I's prefer the basic shortcuts would work...
>
> There is an Editor class with two sub classes that has replaced a former implementation (apparently TextMorphEditor). I couldn't figure out where the shortcuts are actually defined though.
>
> Max
>
> On 22.07.2010, at 20:14, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> I guess that they did that in squeak can you check?
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Max Leske wrote:
>>
>>> No I haven't. I'll take a look at it later on.
>>> Are you planning to replace Paragraph with Editor?
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22.07.2010, at 20:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
>>>> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>>>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>>>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>>>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>>>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>>>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>>>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>>>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Max
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>
>>>>
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> Right now they are hardcoded here
>
> TextEditor class, category:  keyboard shortcut tables
>
> For example:
>
> TextEditor class>> initializeBasicCmdKeyShortcuts
>
> Wouldn't be hard to plug a customized mapping. And then do the same in
>
> TextEditor>>dispatchOn: aKeyboardEvent
>
> You could make this changes, and later test them easily using NewTextMorph.
>
> Fernando
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Max Leske wrote:
>
>> I checked Squeak 4.1 basic image (Damien's server didn't let me download the SqueakDev image). There are no preferences in the preferences browser for editing shortcuts. The only shortcut I could verify was cmd + -> and cmd + <- for skipping words (I have that in my list as alt + -> and alt + <-). There seem to be a couple of other nice shortcuts (e.g. advancing to the next argument when typing a multi argument message) but I's prefer the basic shortcuts would work...
>>
>> There is an Editor class with two sub classes that has replaced a former implementation (apparently TextMorphEditor). I couldn't figure out where the shortcuts are actually defined though.
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On 22.07.2010, at 20:14, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> I guess that they did that in squeak can you check?
>>>
>>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Max Leske wrote:
>>>
>>>> No I haven't. I'll take a look at it later on.
>>>> Are you planning to replace Paragraph with Editor?
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22.07.2010, at 20:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What I want is a real way to define, plug a shortcut table.
>>>>> Max did you check the new Editor class.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stef
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it?
>>>>>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower.
>>>>>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts:
>>>>>> • cmd + -> : go to end of line
>>>>>> • cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>>>>>> • alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>>>>>> • alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>>>>>> • alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>>>>>> • alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>>>>>> • cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style.
>>>>>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>>>>>>
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> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the
> shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important
> anyway because each developer has an own style.
> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at
> the moment.
> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
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> Hi, I used eclipse for about 5 years, and liked many aspects of its
> editor and keyboard shortcuts.  However, there are a couple of things
> about Pharo's ParagraphEditor that correlate to what you want:
>
>> cmd + -> : go to end of line
>
>  END key
>
>> cmd + <- : go to beginning of line
>
>  HOME key
>
>> alt + -> : go to end of the current word
>
>  Control+[right-arrow], left-arrow
>
>> alt + -> : go to beginning of current word
>
> You mean alt + <-  ??
>
>  Control+[left-arrow]
>
>> alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line
>> has line number -1, line above has line number +1)
>
> In Pharo, you can swap any two _selections_, not just lines.  This is
> much more useful since often expressions span multiple lines.  To use:
>
>  1) select the first selection
>  2) select the second selection (the first becomes unselected)
>  3) press Command+e, to "exchange" them.
>
>> alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line
>> cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the
>> moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line)
>
> I'm not sure how useful it would be for a Smalltalk editor to start
> putting in "line"-oriented commands but... I've always preferred
> disabling:
>
>  wordStyleCursorMovement
>
> and then you can delete an "line" easily with the keyboard with the
> following key-sequence:
>
>  Shift+Home, Shift+End, Delete
>
>
>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the
>> shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important
>> anyway because each developer has an own style.
>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at
>> the moment.
>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :)
>> Max
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