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Made with Amber

laurent laffont
Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont
Bernat Romagosa
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Bernat Romagosa
Congrats Laurent! It looks fantastic!

2012/3/23 laurent laffont <[hidden email]>
Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont



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Lawrence Trutter
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Lawrence Trutter
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Congratulations! That video looks great!

-Larry

On Friday, March 23, 2012 12:45:05 PM UTC-5, laurent wrote:
Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont

On Friday, March 23, 2012 12:45:05 PM UTC-5, laurent wrote:
Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont
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show!

amazing responsiveness 

congratulations Laurent



Em sexta-feira, 23 de março de 2012 14h45min05s UTC-3, laurent escreveu:
Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont
Amber Milan Eskridge
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Amber Milan Eskridge
Looks great!

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote:
show!

amazing responsiveness 

congratulations Laurent



Em sexta-feira, 23 de março de 2012 14h45min05s UTC-3, laurent escreveu:
Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont
Thelliez
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Thelliez
Great!

What advantages have you seen with amber while developing this application?



Cheers,
Thierry
Guillermo Sapaya
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Guillermo Sapaya
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Excellent Laurent!
It is good to see products on Amber!

Regards,
Guillermo
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From: laurent laffont <[hidden email]>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:45:05 +0100
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Subject: [amber-lang] Made with Amber

Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont
laurent laffont
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laurent laffont
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Thierry Thelliez <[hidden email]> wrote:
Great!

What advantages have you seen with amber while developing this application?


Metadata (json) is loaded through ajax to build the book. Then the book browser is composed of several widgets that need to be synchronized. It handles embed and fullscreen views. 

The advantages of Amber are:
- you develop in ONE tool: all the css, external js, smalltalk and raw js code written there. Easy (and live) integration with js librairies.  
- you can reload widgets individually and extend the application on the fly (thanks Smalltalk) - feedback cycle is far more shorter than traditional JS / JQuery development
- SUNIT !!
- Announcement means you can decouple code
- Inspector and Debugger (though Amber debugger needs work to catch Pharo's one)
- Easy to inline raw js when you need performance

If you want to play with it, here some examples (click on "Feuilleter le livre" tab)


The application is quite responsive. We actually have more server loading problems than client side. 

Laurent
 



Cheers,
Thierry
Denis Kudriashov
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Denis Kudriashov
Hello

How fast you develop this application?
How many developers and designers you have?

What you think about development time of your solution with another
technologies (ruby, php, java, seaside)?


2012/3/24, laurent laffont <[hidden email]>:

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Thierry Thelliez <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Great!
>>
>> What advantages have you seen with amber while developing this
>> application?
>>
>
>
> Metadata (json) is loaded through ajax to build the book. Then the book
> browser is composed of several widgets that need to be synchronized. It
> handles embed and fullscreen views.
>
> The advantages of Amber are:
> - you develop in ONE tool: all the css, external js, smalltalk and raw js
> code written there. Easy (and live) integration with js librairies.
> - you can reload widgets individually and extend the application on the fly
> (thanks Smalltalk) - feedback cycle is far more shorter than traditional JS
> / JQuery development
> - SUNIT !!
> - Announcement means you can decouple code
> - Inspector and Debugger (though Amber debugger needs work to catch Pharo's
> one)
> - Easy to inline raw js when you need performance
>
> If you want to play with it, here some examples (click on "Feuilleter le
> livre" tab)
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/id/278/folio/MS_120_0011R
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/ido/D09030257
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/ido/D09030182
>
>
> The application is quite responsive. We actually have more server loading
> problems than client side.
>
> Laurent
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thierry
>>
>
laurent laffont
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laurent laffont
Hi Denis,

note that the Amber application is the book viewer, only client side. Server side is written in PHP (no choice, integration in an existing product).

So I cannot compare the development time with PHP/Ruby/Java/Seaside.

IMO development process (ex: TDD, timeboxing, ...) has more impact on development time than technology. Amber enables TDD and quick feedback. So it's better than raw javascript or jQuery plugin development.

Laurent

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Denis Kudriashov <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello

How fast you develop this application?
How many developers and designers you have?

What you think about development time of your solution with another
technologies (ruby, php, java, seaside)?


2012/3/24, laurent laffont <[hidden email]>:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Thierry Thelliez <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Great!
>>
>> What advantages have you seen with amber while developing this
>> application?
>>
>
>
> Metadata (json) is loaded through ajax to build the book. Then the book
> browser is composed of several widgets that need to be synchronized. It
> handles embed and fullscreen views.
>
> The advantages of Amber are:
> - you develop in ONE tool: all the css, external js, smalltalk and raw js
> code written there. Easy (and live) integration with js librairies.
> - you can reload widgets individually and extend the application on the fly
> (thanks Smalltalk) - feedback cycle is far more shorter than traditional JS
> / JQuery development
> - SUNIT !!
> - Announcement means you can decouple code
> - Inspector and Debugger (though Amber debugger needs work to catch Pharo's
> one)
> - Easy to inline raw js when you need performance
>
> If you want to play with it, here some examples (click on "Feuilleter le
> livre" tab)
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/id/278/folio/MS_120_0011R
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/ido/D09030257
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/ido/D09030182
>
>
> The application is quite responsive. We actually have more server loading
> problems than client side.
>
> Laurent
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thierry
>>
>
Hannes Hirzel
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Hannes Hirzel
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On 3/24/12, laurent laffont <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Thierry Thelliez <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Great!
>>
>> What advantages have you seen with amber while developing this
>> application?
>>
>
>
> Metadata (json) is loaded through ajax to build the book. Then the book
> browser is composed of several widgets that need to be synchronized. It
> handles embed and fullscreen views.
>
> The advantages of Amber are:
> - you develop in ONE tool: all the css, external js, smalltalk and raw js
> code written there. Easy (and live) integration with js librairies.
> - you can reload widgets individually and extend the application on the fly
> (thanks Smalltalk) - feedback cycle is far more shorter than traditional JS
> / JQuery development
> - SUNIT !!
> - Announcement means you can decouple code
> - Inspector and Debugger (though Amber debugger needs work to catch Pharo's
> one)
> - Easy to inline raw js when you need performance
>
> If you want to play with it, here some examples (click on "Feuilleter le
> livre" tab)
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/id/278/folio/MS_120_0011R
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/ido/D09030257
> -
> http://mediatheques.agglo-moulins.fr/agglo-moulins.fr/bib-numerique/notice/ido/D09030182
>
>
> The application is quite responsive. We actually have more server loading
> problems than client side.
>
> Laurent
>
>

Thank you for this summary on the development approach. It illustrates
how Amber is used to develop an HTML5 application.

-- Hannes
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Michael Chean-2
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Beautiful!

On Friday, March 23, 2012 10:45:05 AM UTC-7, laurent wrote:
Hi,


Product accepted by customer (source code should be released this year). 

Laurent Laffont
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